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Irregular Times News Roundup September 1 2007

What do the Virgin Mary, the Maldives, chupacabras, sea lions, Larry Craig and the Oklahoma Prison system have in common?

The Irregular Times podcast, serving up a news roundup on September 1, 2007.

Go ahead, listen in.

6 thoughts on “Irregular Times News Roundup September 1 2007”

  1. Iroquois says:

    Okay, I know I already fussed at you this week about how mediary agents in the Roman Catholic Church (like priests) don’t have a parallel in Protestant churches, but dammit, now I’ve found the same sort of assumption in this podcast, and aren’t the details so important when you’re trying to persuade?

    When you say at the end of the podcast that The Virgin Mary and Jesus are going to intercede in the case of global warming, you place rejection of global warming study squarely at the doorstep of the Roman Catholic church. Yet all the pieces here about religion and global warming attribute this attitude to the born-again protestant evangelistic crowd. Do you even KNOW whether the Roman Catholic church has a policy position on global warming?

  2. Jim says:

    Of course it does.

  3. Juniper says:

    Intermediary priests do TOO have a parallel in Protestant religion. Don’t think we’re that ignorant to play that bluff, Iroquois.

    What do you think that Pat Robertson, healing viewers’ spleens through the television set in the name of God, is all about? What about what’s his name who said that he needed a million dollars or God would call him home? Your general statements about what everyone else doesn’t know are so very very general that they start to reveal gaps in your own understanding.

  4. Iroquois says:

    Ever hear of the Reformation, Juniper? Does the name Martin Luther ring a bell?

  5. Patricia says:

    The Reformation is a theoretical, abstract division. In truth, Juniper is on to something. The formal distinctions between Roman Catholic and Protestant really don’t hold up well as a primary definition of religious identity. It’s a lot more complex than that, and I appreciate the willingness of Irregular Times to look at that complexity, instead of just accepting the official, normative definitions for religion.

  6. Iroquois says:

    Maybe I need to be more blunt. Protestants do not pray to Mary. They pray to God.

    For Protestants, Mary is merely a historical figure, the mother of Jesus as well as his siblings, and does not figure in a pantheon.

    Of course any student of history can tell you Mary is just another name for the Goddess, worshiped in Europe before the (somewhat bloody) advent of Christianity. All over Europe, Christianity supplanted the Goddess and the new religion built cathedrals all over the place, and every one of them was named….yup, notre dame.

    Irregular times does not have any clue about religious complexity. They just lump all religions together because they are too busy mocking to seek out accurate facts.

    Those who think the Reformation was merely some abstract idea should look up sometime how many people were killed in it.

    How do you define your own primary religious identity, Patricia?

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