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Transcripts: Rick Warren and the Religious Test against Atheists

Evangelical Christian Pastor Rick Warren has consistently agitated against equal rights for gay and lesbian Americans. The mainstream news media has reported this.

Rick Warren has repeatedly referred to actions that prevent the implantation of fertilized eggs as a “Holocaust,” equating the hundreds of millions of women who have had abortions, who have IUDs and who have taken birth control pills with Nazis. A few mainstream news outlets have mentioned this.

Rick Warren not only has declared that “I could not vote for an atheist president” but has also affirmed that in his view “a person has to believe in God to be president.” Not one mainstream news media outlet has reported this.

ABC News has yanked video excerpts of it from YouTube, and they haven’t posted a transcript online either, so all I can provide you is a copy of my own transcription from August 2008 of Rick Warren’s conversation with Cynthia McFadden of ABC News:

Cynthia McFadden: I have heard you say you want to understand what their personal relationship with Jesus is…

Rick Warren: Yeah.

Cynthia McFadden: …Does that mean a Jew or a Muslim would be out as far as you were concerned as president?

Rick Warren: Not at all, not at all. I could vote for a Jewish president easily. The only kind of president I don’t think I could vote for would be an atheist. I could not vote for an atheist president because I just think that is pretty arrogant. I think that the presidency is too big for any human individual. And I think we do need God.

If that isn’t enough for you, consider this conversation between Larry King and Rick Warren on August 18, 2008:

Larry King: Does a person have to believe in God to be President?

Rick Warren: I would say so. I couldn’t vote for a person who was an atheist because I would think that, I think that the presidency is a job too big for one person, and I would think that there’s a little arrogance that says, “I don’t need anybody else.”


The mainstream media may not care about this particular endorsement of unconstitutional bigotry by the man Barack Obama picked to be the public face of his inauguration, but a fair number of Americans do. For those people, here’s the documentation of Rick Warren’s religious, anti-atheist test. Please do what you can to spread the word.

4 thoughts on “Transcripts: Rick Warren and the Religious Test against Atheists”

  1. Jim says:

    Pre-emptive caveat to the person who’s thinking, “but hey, what happened to freedom of speech?” Yes, Rick Warren can say whatever he wants. And yes, Barack Obama can invite whomever he wants to say things at the Inauguration. I don’t dispute that Barack Obama has the right to bring the three-times-a-bigot Rick Warren to deliver an invocation at his Inauguration. I dispute that is a good idea for a president who wants to send a message of civic inclusion to gays, lesbians, people who have had abortions, people who use birth control and atheists (a very large chunk of the population taken together) to bring on a man who wants to exclude them all. It leads me to ask who Barack Obama’s administration is aiming to please.

  2. dave says:

    Because you are intolerant of Rick Warren, does that make you a bigot?

    1. Jim says:

      1. I am not intolerant of him. I fully support his existence and his civil rights. I disagree with him. The premise of your question is incorrect.

      2. Find for me and repeat here the dictionary definition of the word “bigot;” that will answer your question.

  3. Dave says:

    Well stated.

    Forgive my assumptions and my misreading of your previous post.

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