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Full Text of Jared Lee Loughner Delusional Rant on Conscience Dreaming

The following is the full text of a YouTube rant by Arizona 8th District gunman Jared Lee Loughner, who appears to have gunned down several people and shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head today:

Hello, my name is Jared Lee Loughner.

This video is my introduction to you! My favorite activity is conscience dreaming; the greatest inspiration for my political business information. Some of you don’t dream — sadly.

Firstly, the current government officials are in power for their currency, but I’m informing you for your new currency! If you’re treasurer of a new money system, then you’re responsible for the distributing of a new currency. We now know — the treasurer for a new money system, is the distributor of the new currency. As a result, the people approve a new money system which is promising new information that’s accurate, and we truly believe in a new currency. Above all, you have your new currency, listener?

Secondly, my hope — is for you to be literate! If you’re literate in English grammar, then you comprehend English grammar. The majority of people, who reside in District-8, are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.

Thirdly, I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.

In conclusion, my ambition — is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!

This is a portrait in words of a man immersed in paranoid delusions, struggling to write grammatically incorrect paragraphs about others’ grammar, convinced that mind control and brainwashing and a strange new currency is all around him. It’s a sorry portrait of a man who has come to a pathetic end, complaining about his own civil rights while taking away the right of other people to simply live.

A question which surely will emerge over the next few days: how did a paranoid delusional man end up with his hands wrapped around a Glock? Had he encountered the authorities in any circumstances before? If so, how did he obtain the weapons used to carry out his bizarre attack?

Update: It appears that as a Pima Community College student, Jared Loughner was removed from the campus for causing a disturbance (“talking”), an act that led to his conclusion that all police are “Unconstitutional.” So there was some contact between Loughner and the authorities on the occasion of bizarre behavior, making the question of his possession of a Glock a reasonable one to investigate.

46 thoughts on “Full Text of Jared Lee Loughner Delusional Rant on Conscience Dreaming”

  1. ty says:

    Crazy man, but military backgrounds I wanna know more if he was discharged for mental issues. Or ptsd.

    1. Bobbi says:

      He applied to enter, but was rejected. He was never in the military, at all.

  2. Heartland Patriot says:

    I am a law-abiding firearms owner. I do not advocate this sort of violence. My firearms have never been used against another person. And I while I want the authorities to get to the bottom of this tragedy, and for this man to get what he has “earned”, I also do NOT want my rights as an American curtailed in a knee-jerk reaction. Firearms are inanimate objects that cannot function without human intervention and operation. It is not hyperbolic to point out the truth. My condolences and prayers to the families of those lost in this tragedy.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      I’m not reacting in a knee jerk fashion. I’m asking whether Jared Lee Loughner, as apparently a paranoid schizophrenic, was given free reign with weapons. This is a reasonable question for someone who supports second amendment rights (as I do) to ask.

      1. David W. says:

        You are having a knee jerk reaction. If this guy had ran over these people in a truck, would you be advocating his driver’s license should have been revoked before this happened? Far more people are killed with automobiles than guns. Let’s not condemn the means – rather condemn the person.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          You’re confusing a reaction you don’t like the connotations of with a knee jerk reaction.

          1. David W. says:

            You support the 2nd Ammendment of the Constitution, so you know that’s what gave this man the right to “end up with his hands wrapped around a Glock”. Perhaps the question you intended to ask was more along the lines of “Were there any prior incidents that clearly warranted his right being taken away?” Of course, this question assumes the right wasn’t previously taken away, and that he was in legal possession of the gun – which are facts I have not heard thusfar.

          2. Jim Cook says:

            I didn’t use the word “right” — you brought that word into the conversation. When people are found mentally incompetent to care for themselves — as this guy so clearly was — they can even have scissors taken away from them for their protection, just as people who have engaged in violent acts can have their rights to freely assemble revoked as they’re stuffed in the pokey. I asked questions about what might have happened in the past, answers to which I have not found yet.

        2. Dave Kennedy says:

          If he had run over them with a truck.. the concept of whether stark raving mad people should be given the right to drive should be a topic – a vehicle can be a weapon.

          But no, he didn’t drive over them with a truck – if he did they’d have ample warning at least. He shot them.. with a gun, a gun which can be used to defend yourself yes – but unlike a car, does not have a use that doesn’t involve someone being shot. It is a weapon – and that alone. It has no other practical purpose, and it was given to one with clear mental problems. That is a danger to you and to me – and to 9 yr old girls and congresswomen.

          1. David Cromie says:

            Dave Kennedy has touched on the nub of the matter – guns are for killing, motor vehicles are not designed as murder weapons. Where would one secrete a vehicle about one’s person so as to produce it at the last moment to kill, or maim? Comparing like with like is not the forte of the gun lobby spokespersons, and it is time to have a rational discussion on the so-called right to be armed to the teeth. Is everyone in America so paranoid about their fellow citizens, that they feel the need to possess weapons? What does this say about American society, if the answer to the previous question is in the affirmative, even if with qualifications?

          2. Sean says:

            Yes and if a sharp-minded citizen were present and “armed to the teeth” the resulting casualties would not have been so great would they? From what I’ve read ordinary citizens were the first to respond, detaining Loughner until the police arrived, so I don’t think that one individual’s abuse of his right to bear arms constitutes infringing others since having guns in the hands of sane individuals could have sharply limited the severity of Loughner’s attack. I don’t want to make assumptions but I’m guessing you’re a middle class person living in a middle class area. Just because you don’t feel threatened in your own neighborhood doesn’t mean that someone living in South-West Philly, as I have done, doesn’t. The first week I lived in my house there was a double-homicide across the street and another inside a strip club two blocks down. Drug-addicts would routinely congregate on my porch and become violent if I turned the lights out on them or asked them to leave… in one instance smashing several pieces of furniture before I chased them off with a shotgun. I have also lived in the country where there was only one, cliff-side access road and a 20 minute trip to the nearest town. My house burnt down as a result of an electrical fire some years ago and it took the fire department half an hour to show up. There wasn’t anything left to save by the time they got there. In a home invasion or other situation involving the real possibility of physical harm from another entity I cannot rely on the police to protect me. In the even of a major storm trapping me miles and miles from civilization I cannot rely on anyone else to feed me. If a rabid fox wanders into my yard and threatens my dog I am not going to fend it off with a baseball bat and if someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night I am not taking the chance that they’re not packing and galloping out of my room brandishing a golf club.

            Self-reliance is an American tradition. That being said data from countries where firearms were banned has never shown a decrease in homicide or suicide only a decrease in so-called “gun crimes.” I hate to sound like a right-wing lunatic but politicians don’t want you to have guns so just be careful what solutions you advocate they might be problems someday. I don’t mean to come off as condescending and I hope that I haven’t. I just wanted to get my perspective out there and into the dialogue for consideration.

          3. Sean says:

            Oh, and I completely agree with implications of your last line of questioning.

          4. J. Clifford says:

            Sean, you’ve invented a rather distorted vision of the United States as a terribly dangerous, crime-filled nation. It really isn’t. Rates of violent crime are down. You provide anecdotal evidence from your own life, but statistics show that the huge majority of people who don’t own guns, in all sorts of neighborhoods, are not the victims of violent crime. The kind of story your mythology of violence centers around is not at all typical.

            You cite the fact that Loughner was stopped from continuing his attack by people who did not have guns. That kind of undermines your point, doesn’t it?

            Your characterization of what politicians want just isn’t accurate. Take a look around, and you’ll see that most politicians are proponents of the 2nd amendment.

          5. Sean says:

            I am aware my anecdotes are atypical and I brought them up precisely because of that. My intention was not to present a “vision” of the United States just relate what I myself have experienced because it contradicts some of the assumptions being made by people, I think, have not been in similar situations. Certainly the pragmatic answer lies somewhere in the middle.

            As far as that undermining my point I don’t think it does at all. I already addressed that. I am not saying that the presence of responsible gun-owners would have completely stopped him but I doubt he was stopped while still wielding a loaded gun so logic dictates that he was either stopped while reloading, after emptying his clip, or a very brave individual or set of individuals did something dramatic to stop him all the while probably wishing that they did have a gun.

            No, and I myself have never been the victim of a violent crime either. Plane crashes are statistically unlikely too but we still have oxygen masks, flotation devices, and contingency plans in our planes.

            I won’t open that last can of worms though. Let’s just agree to disagree about what politicians want. That’s really speculation since neither of us are mind-readers and I should have just said that they probably don’t want us to have guns. Again I can only speak from what I personally have observed.

  3. ty says:

    Arizona is like Mississippi, if you have never been arrested for domestic violence or dui you can buy a gun without any hesitation. You pay and walk out the same day.

  4. mingusal says:

    I’m assuming that by “conscience dreaming” he really meant “conscious dreaming”, about which there is a certain amount of published material. It’s amazing to me how many people can’t seem to distinguish between these words. In any event, I think his videos pretty clearly show a confused and delusional mind. Certainly looks like the rantings of a schizophrenic, and Loughner is in just the right age group for the onset of schizophrenic symptoms. Big question is, why didn’t anybody catch it? (Or did the army notice it, and that’s why he was pushed out?) And why was he out walking around armed?

  5. Anon says:

    There’s something odd about that… The grammar is off, but in a consistent way. It could be that he’s just plain crazy and that somehow affected his writing ability, but I can’t help but be reminded of the way writing that contains certain types of ciphers can sound off in a similar way…

    1. linda says:

      do you think this is a coded website? i thought so too. by “cipher” do you mean code? it reads to me like a riddle of some sort.

  6. Gunguyphx says:

    You make a dangerous and unnecessary association with the Glock brand. The make or brand of weapon used is irrelevant. I have forwarded your blog to the Glock company in hopes they slap you with a negligence law suit.

    1. josh says:

      u are an idiot

    2. Bikebox says:

      Unnecessary association…other than the reports that he used a Glock 9mm.

    3. bbayliss says:

      Dear Gunguyphx, I thought you should know that some asshole is using your identity to make idiotic frivolous claims to the Glock Company. Thank You.

  7. Sensibleone says:

    There will be a natural knee jerk reaction to ban guns. Instead, realize that this guy is another wacko athiest commie and ban athiest communists/sympathizers.

    1. Bikebox says:

      The world has far more to fear from fundamentalists of any religious belief than from atheists.

      1. vladdy says:

        If you means muslims. say so. A lot of us Christians, the real religion of peace, are getting sick of being tied to the islamic nuts beheading, raping, and killing all over the world.Christians have a past, as do atheists (stalin.anyone?), but at the time we live, Christians are the spreaders of peace and the hope of humanity. The new atheists, the ones who are positioning themselves as Christians’ #2 enemy today (after the followers of mo) keep dragging us into conversations involving every evil from single murders to genocide. How ’bout we both work together to beat out the caliphate-in-waiting, because that’s what we’re all in danger from, more with each passing day, stories such as this one notwithstanding.

        1. DontDrinkIt says:

          When the christian community owns up to their past, when they stop saying the U.S. is a christian nation, when they learn that “in God we trust” and “under God” were not put in place by the founders and are an illegal endorsement of religion by the state, maybe then.

      2. jon says:

        All Atheists are not Communist. However one thing in common among Communist revolutionaries is Atheism. Communist China and Communist Russia being two easy examples. As for Killing, I don’t believe that anyone holds a candle to Mao Zedong. Che is another example of the murderous left. Evil is present in people of every persuasion, Left and Right. We would do better to stop trying to find fault in each other’s Ideology and work for an understanding of human nature, then design a government that takes that understanding into account. Oh that’s what the Constitution does! So far it is the best document ever devised by man to ensure freedom. If you want a world where madmen never murder, you want what never was and never will be. Any attempt to create a utopian world where nothing bad ever happens is going to be far worse.

    2. DontDrinkIt says:

      Since when are all atheists communists?
      Am I to believe that morality and ethics require belief in god, or just your god?
      You are an idiot.

  8. bbayliss says:

    Dear hand gun defenders. A hand gun has two purposes; killing other humans and target practice so that you might better kill other humans. You often sight the second amendment as justification for owning an instrument of human destruction without noting that the second amendment is the only amendment to our constitution that begins with a condition, to wit: ” In order to maintain a well armed militia…” . We have since established the National Guard which is nothing if not a “well armed militia”. You are wrong and your selfish and troubling need to own an instrument of power and destruction is symptomatic of dysfunction.

    1. Bidderman says:

      You are an idiot.
      At 15 years old, I had to shoot an armed intruder (wanted for rape as it turns out)to stop him from attacking me and my mother.
      I warned him 3 times and he still chose to kick the door in and come at us.
      I chose to be an armed citizen rather than a victim and still do.
      Yes, guns used by criminals on other humans are a problem; deal with the criminals not the guns.

    2. jon says:

      That is utter nonsense. The syntax of the sentence is the key to understanding the “Right to Bear Arms”, unfortunately we have been stupefied to the point where the understanding of subject, and predicate is beyond the reach of most.

  9. seanmom says:

    Forget the second amendment. The real question to ask is WHAT THE HECK IS “conscience dreaming,” because he seems to have been obsessed with it. This may be it, but I can’t be sure: If so, I would guess that this idiotic concept is more likely the cause of his madness and decision to shoot than anything else. Also, in his recent writings, he talks about needing sleep. Maybe he got so obsessed with being a “waking dreamer” that he stopped sleeping. Who knows. But he probably would have killed with or without a gun. And he probably shouldn’t have been allowed any weapon of any kind and should have been locked up a long time ago.

    1. J. Clifford says:

      Seanmom, why are you so unsettled by people talking about the fact that this guy used a gun to inflict extreme violence?

      There’s no way that he would have killed six people, and wounded many others, without a gun.

      You don’t like it, but the 2nd Amendment is a relevant discussion.

      1. vladdy says:

        Does it occur to some writing that, under stricter gun laws, the criminal would still have his gun, but no one around him could possibly have a weapon with which to stop him?

        1. foobarbecue says:

          I feel this is an important subject to address logically.

          In order for the your statement to make any sense, the following assertion must be true.

          – A: Given a high enough level of gun possession, a random crowd in a public place can safely resolve a situation where with armed attacker.

          Currently, 40% of Americans own a gun, according to Gallup. I have never heard of a real world example of assertion A. I see two possible conclusions from this: either
          – B: Real world examples of A do not happen because 40% is not enough; the ratio of gun-wielding non-attackers to gun-wielding attackers needs to be somehow increased.
          – C: Real world examples of A actually are commonplace and I am uninformed.

          So, Vladdy, I’m curious to know which of B or C you think is true. If it’s C, I would like to see some case studies or statistics. If it’s A, then I’d like a proposal regarding how one increases the ratio of gun-wielding non attackers to gun-wielding attackers.

          1. DontDrinkIt says:

            c) I’ve witnessed violence curtailed due to a gun being drawn.

            Personally I prefer to take my chances with guns being legal.

            Loughner fell through the cracks. At no point was he officially deemed unfit, nor was he convicted of a felony. As such there was no legal reason to deny him the ability to own or purchase a firearm. It happens. What sucks is this time several people were injured and killed.

            I’m still not going to hand over my gun. People die every day. I am far more concerned over being hit by an unsafe driver than being shot. I’m more concerned about my poor diet as well.

            Data from USDOJ

            Presence of weapons in violent incidents, by type, 2009
            Presence of
            offender’s weapon Violent crime Rape/sexual assault Robbery Simple/aggravated assault

            Total 100 % 100 % 100 % 100 %
            No weapon 73 % 85 % 48 % 76 %

            Weapon 22 % 10 %* 47 % 19 %
            Firearm 8 — * 28 5
            Knife 6 8 * 9 5
            Other 7 2 * 8 7
            Type not ascertained 2 — * 2 * 1
            Don’t know 6 % 5 %* 6 %* 6 %

            Note: Percentage may not total to 100% because of rounding. If the offender was armed with more than one weapon, the crime is classified based on the most serious weapon present.
            *Based up 10 or fewer sample cases.
            –Less than 0.5%.



            Yes, guns, are dominant particularly hand guns. other guns, knives, and other weapons (not including blunt weapons) are roughly equal. blunt weapons are last. knives and other weaopns (other weapons is its own category, not including any firearms, knives, or blunt weapons) are roughly on par with handguns in the number of deaths caused.

            Of greater concern is that for the 18 to 24 age group, guns are used almost three times as much as non-guns versus roughly (and I emphasize roughly) 1.33 times more often for 17 and younger and 25 and older groups.

      2. jon says:

        Not really! You don’t question a “right” just because a nut misuses it. A “right is by definition something that is beyond the power of the Government to control without a reason that is specific to the person being affected. As an example: a person is adjudicated insane or has committed a crime which suspends that right, or a situation that is specific and limited. The real question is: was there sufficient cause for the authorities to believe Jared Lee Loughner was a danger to himself or others, and if there was, why was it ignored?

        We don’t question the fifth ammendment because crimials take advantage of it.

  10. seanmom says:

    PS: This guy was not religious in any sense of the word; he was/is CRAZY. If anything, he was an atheist, who objected to being given a small bible when he went to an army recruiting office and to the words “in God we trust” on our money. Stop with the ideological projection; whatever he thought “conscience dreaming” was is what propelled him. Track that to find out the why, and leave the politics and policy out of the discussion.

  11. victor says:

    I am sick of hearing people go on about run ownership rights. Americans have an obsession with guns. I distrust people who own handguns. A handgun has only one purpose, and there is very rarely a legitimate need for that purpose. I personally think that private citizens who carry around handguns in public should be arrested and locked up for public indecency!

    1. DontDrinkIt says:

      while i don’t carry in public i am glad you don’t get to make that decision on your own.
      what else would you like to lock people up for?

      1. Sean says:

        Hunting and fishing perhaps? I fail to see how self defense doesn’t qualify as a legitimate purpose. Maybe he would prefer we still carried swords then you can get shot by a attackers while looking stylish! Of course I think most people who hate guns have either:

        A) Never seen the new Rambo movie and are therefore completely ignorant as to how awesome guns are.
        B) Would rather take it like a bitch than defend themselves because they have no dignity or family to defend.

        I’m gonna go ahead and assume lack of dignity in 90% of the cases. Standing up for yourself is easy in civilized society but as the saying goes “last time I checked you couldn’t tap-out on the street.”

    2. jon says:

      You and most Dictators! Maybe you have a future in public oppression!

  12. Joseph Roell says:

    Mr Loughner speaks of another currency which I believe to be his perception of the illiteracy he has found prevalent in the 8th district. He speaks about creating/ modifying the vocabulary and creating a new language, and then a new currency, second and third. I believe he chose the word conscience as awake, and trys to validate his actions as a sleep walker. He struggles with geometry and makes attempts to prove his logic. I think it therefore It is. He is afraid of being misguided and unable to function having suffered being unfit for duty. Guns don’t kill people…As for freedom it will always cost and the currency is blood and sometimes it may seem unbearable and yet people find it necessary to take up arms and …As Abraham Lincoln said and I paraphrase “But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom. ” For this republic is our daily struggle.God Bless America

  13. AnOracle says:

    Am surprised that people cannot simply look at this message as clearly as this mad-man wants us to see it. His message is pretty clear…So let’s take a ride with it:

    Hello, my name is Jared Lee Loughner.
    This video is my introduction to you! My favorite activity is conscience dreaming; the greatest inspiration for my political business information. Some of you don’t dream — sadly.

    He opens his position by outlining his “favorite activity”, “conscience dreaming” which he believes is the inspiration for his politics, business and source of information. Now, it is very easy to dismiss this subject – and I would encourage people to study more about it – but many people do feel trapped in some kinds of “waking dreams” (not factoring in the advanced mental illness this guy had already reached); and for those who develop these senses, it can be a powerful and exciting activity to undertake. Unfortunately for a lunatic like this guy, it led him to bloody murder. This activity however does not have to lead someone to such horrific paths, but that is another subject on its own. So let’s follow the path of his conscience dream:

    Firstly, the current government officials are in power for their currency, but I’m informing you for your new currency!

    First, he immediately establishes his definition of currency by deriving from its root meaning: that which is current. Power lies with those who influence current events, and from his reference point, this power lies with government officials. His desire is for “YOU” to first, recognize that you have that very power yourself, and second, by exercising that power within you, you can drive the agenda just as much as government officials – hence “your new currency”. Here he is far from thinking about currency in the form of money as most dismissive pundits have been convincing the masses about. Unfortunately, we now know his “currency” was the use of A GUN to kill government officials and innocent by-standers. SADLY!

    If you’re treasurer of a new money system, then you’re responsible for the distributing of a new currency. We now know — the treasurer for a new money system, is the distributor of the new currency. As a result, the people approve a new money system which is promising new information that’s accurate, and we truly believe in a new currency. Above all, you have your new currency, listener?

    However, he knows that majority of us have been brainwashed to only define currency in the form of a money system, so here he throws us on a loop…but this man is simply obsessed with the idea of POWER, and HOW POWER INFLUENCES CURRENT EVENTS. So words like “treasurer” can simply be substituted for President or Speaker, or Congress-woman, or Judge, or 9-yr-old etc, and the power each one of them wields to influence current events – basically, the power brokers. In a manner that even feels like he is momentarily snapping out of the dream, he reminds “YOU” that you have your new currency…almost suggesting, don’t envy them, just “DO YOU”.

    Secondly, my hope — is for you to be literate! If you’re literate in English grammar, then you comprehend English grammar. The majority of people, who reside in District-8, are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.

    Second, he reminds us not to be too stuck up on the semantics – which is legitimate, but he has a dramatic way of saying it. When he talks about the majority of the people in his district being illiterate, he simply means they do not know how to wield power to control their present circumstances. He even encourages people not to get caught up on the “grammar structure”.

    Thirdly, I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.

    Thirdly, he even tells us who knows about this type of power: “Government Officials and The PEOPLE” – those who are aware of “mind control and brainwash methods”. According to him, majority of the people do not know this “accurate information”.

    Then he gives us his complaint: His “civil rights” have been taken away from him. Now sadly, many people feel this way. They just don’t go out to buy a gun and start shooting people.

    In conclusion, my ambition — is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!

    In conclusion, he gives us his motive: his ambition is to encourage those who feel their civil rights have been violated, to gain power through controlling current events…and the best way to do this is by engaging in his favorite activity: conscience dreaming. sadly, he earned his currency THROUGH THE USE OF A GUN AGAINST GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND INNOCENT BY-STANDERS IN HIS OWN DISTRICT. What a sick and twisted DREAM. Certainly not my kind of dreamer…He deserves to be locked up forever.


  14. trace says:

    What am I thinking? Keep it simple…stupids!

  15. Anon says:

    If you don’t realize what he is talking about look up “Brain Fog.” Millions of people our suffering from it and noone can get answers as to what causes it.

    I have it. It is like I wake up and never really wake up. Im typing this now but I feel like I am high as shit or drunk all the time.

    Next time you get drunk, stop yourself, look around and realize how you are seeing things, how you feel. Sit down and try to do a math problem. It is terror. Anon

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