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No Americans Elect Petitions Turned in To Date in the State of Kansas

On January 17, Independent Political Report reported a rumor that petitioning for Americans Elect to qualify as a political party in Kansas had been completed:

The petitioner grapevine has it that Americans Elect petitioning has been completed in Arizona and Kansas, but Nevada is the only state that their signatures have been verified to have been turned in to the state through sources I have seen.

A visitor to Independent Political Report expresses high confidence that Americans Elect has turned in its petitions to the state of Kansas:

Americans Elect did the full party status petition in Kansas which requires 16,776 valid signatures rather just doing a petition to place a presidential ticket on the ballot which requires 5,000 signatures…. I’ve heard from multiple sources that Americans Elect was petitioning in Kansas so I do not think that it was a rumor.

Because Americans Elect has geared up outside the public spotlight in its own bid for the White House in 2012, public documentation of its efforts have been scanty and undocumented rumors like these have run amok. We’ve already seen that the “petitioner grapevine” rumors are at odds with the official record in Arizona, which (thanks to conversations with the Arizona Secretary of State’s office for clarity) show that less than $500 has been spent in the state by Americans Elect. This is far less than would be required to successfully manage and execute a ballot access campaign with the professional petition circulators that have been hired by Americans Elect.

My conversation this afternoon with Brad Bryant of the Elections and Legislative Matters division of the Kansas Secretary of State’s office appears to dispel these rumors. Bryant declared unequivocally that the Kansas Secretary of State has not received any completed petitions from Americans Elect, has not received any blank petition forms for approval from Americans Elect, and has not had any formal or informal conversations about ballot access with people identifying themselves as part of an Americans Elect effort. The most that might have happened, Bryant indicated to me, is that someone who didn’t identify as part of Americans Elect discussed the party petition procedure with his office (as many have this year), or that perhaps Americans Elect has started gathering party ballot qualification signatures without submitting blank petition forms for approval first.

The grapevine may be a place to look for tips, but the most solid ground for finding out about political organizations like Americans Elect is the official record. That is why the disappearance of Americans Elect from the public record is a disturbing event.

8 comments to No Americans Elect Petitions Turned in To Date in the State of Kansas

  • Paulie

    We’ve already seen that the “petitioner grapevine” rumors are at odds with the official record in Arizona, which (thanks to conversations with the Arizona Secretary of State’s office for clarity) show that less than $500 has been spent in the state by Americans Elect.

    If the money was spent with an out of state petition company, I don’t guess it would show up with SOS records in the state. Most petitioners and petition companies travel. The grapevine we have is both from people that were working there and non-petitioners that encountered them.

    • Paulie, can you name names? Can you share verifiable sources? If you can’t share those, I can’t report anything. It’s a structural problem, not a personal problem. This is why we need transparency in the political process. The American political process should not depend on people whispering things to other people on the insistence of anonymity.

      • Paulie

        Gary Fincher 207-450-5117 garyfincher at yahoo.com
        Andy Jacobs thatpetitionguy at yahoo.com
        Darryl Bonner 215-520-8088
        Arenza Thigpen thebestpetitioner at yahoo.com

        The first was in Kansas petitioning himself. The others can give you additional references for people who were there both as to Kansas and Arizona.

        dave.brooksher@gmail.com is a journalist who emailed me who was approached by an Americans Elect petitioner in Arizona.

  • Paulie

    perhaps Americans Elect has started gathering party ballot qualification signatures without submitting blank petition forms for approval first.

    I know people that worked there for weeks. As in a whole crew.

    • For what company? Arno Consultants? During what time period? Specificity would be very helpful, especially because Americans Elect is itself being so opaque.

      • Paulie

        The information we have is that a coordinator names Mike Jones was running Kansas, or perhaps one of the people running Kansas. We believe he reports to Jenny and Dick Breslin of JSM petitions, and that in turn they subcontracted for Arno.

        Other coordinators who may have subbed for Arno include Eileen Ray of Discovery Petitions. The time period would have included this past December. The email from Dave Brooksher re; Arizona was November 16.

        I’ll post something at IPR, let’s see if we can get to the bottom of this.

  • Fuckmj

    Y’all just need I look up mark jacoby he runnin the game

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