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NPR Audience Doesn’t Go With the Buddy Roemer Flow

As week after week after week passes, initial moderate flows of support to Americans Elect candidates have slowed to tepid streams and finally down to a meager trickle.

This past Saturday, AE Transparency compiled statistics on how close drafted and declared candidates in the Americans Elect system have come to reaching the ballot access standards for political insiders (1,000 votes of support in 10 states) or political outsiders (5,000 votes of support in 10 states). AE Transparency’s graph shows how very far they all are from success:

Americans Elect Corporation First Round Voting Progress Graph, Generated by the ever-helpful AE Transparency

The most popular vote-getters, Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman, are “draft” candidates, politicians who have made it clear they will not participate in the Americans Elect process. Even these relatively popular options have not received a significant absolute number of votes, and therefore are nowhere near the needed pace to gain ballot access in the Americans Elect system. If they were on pace, they should have reached a 57% threshold by now in their top 10 states, but even the internet(only) juggernaut Ron Paul has drawn less than a third of the necessary Americans Elect votes. The show isn’t opening well.

Actually declared Americans Elect candidates are noted with an asterisk in AE Transparency’s graph, and they’re doing far worse than the draft candidates. How dismal are the results for declared Americans Elect candidates? The 8th most popular Americans Elect declared candidate right now is an avowed White Supremacist, Merlin Miller. #11, David Jon Sponheim, went into blackface a few months back to complain that he couldn’t get sufficient attention as a white man in America:

Let’s restrict our attention to the most popular Americans Elect declared candidates, the ones more popular than Miller and Sponheim. At his current rate, declared candidate Buddy Roemer will gain Americans Elect ballot access for 2012 some time after Election Day in November 2012. Rocky Anderson is on a pace to perhaps gain ballot access for the 2012 elections by 2016. Both Roemer and Anderson are trying the I-hate-big-money line to gain supporters, but it doesn’t seem to play well with voters who notice that Americans Elect is supported and controlled by big money… while making democratic action by us little people practically impossible.

How dismal is Buddy Roemer’s vote total? Let’s put this in perspective. Even though votes in just the top 10 states count for Roemer’s ballot access (sorry, lower 40), we’ll count his votes across all 50 states to give him a bigger total. As of right now, that 50-state total stands at 2,315. By comparison, Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul gained 2,289 votes in New Hampshire alone this year … in the Democratic Party Primary.

Despite his dismal popularity among the non-hedge-fund set, Buddy Roemer keeps plugging away, bless his tax-cut-for-the-rich heart… and the Big Media just can’t get enough of him. MSNBC practically has its own recurring Buddy Roemer Show. This afternoon, NPR gave Buddy Roemer a news story and then his own 5-minute segment to promote his Americans Elect presidential campaign.

How’d it work? Here was Buddy Roemer’s tally of “support” votes for his top 10 states back on March 25 2012, two days ago:

Number of Buddy Roemer Support Votes in the Americans Elect system on March 25 2012

The best state for Roemer is California, where’s two days ago 23.2% of the way to his goal of 1,000 support votes (and 58% of the voting period already expired). In half of his top 10 states, Roemer hadn’t reached even 10% of his needed total.

And here’s the Buddy Roemer tally of “support” votes in his top 10 states as of right now, 8:05 pm Eastern Time, about 4 hours after the big NPR Roemerpalooza:

Buddy Roemer Support Votes as of March 27 2012, a few hours after NPR held a national Roemer for President promotional interview.  Results?  Tepid at best.

Two full days and one NPR national Roemer promotional event later, how many more votes had Buddy Roemer soaked up in his top 10 states?

1. California: 7 more votes
2. Texas: 7 more votes
3. New York: 5 more votes
4. Louisiana: 3 more votes
5. Florida: no gain
6. Illinois: 3 more votes
7. Massachusetts: 3 more votes
8. Washington State: 5 more votes
9. North Carolina: 2 more votes
10. Ohio: 5 more votes

Despite considerable media promotion of Americans Elect and Buddy Roemer’s role within it (with 59 news stories in the past week alone), the Buddy Train is headed for nowhere… and it is Americans Elect’s most popular vehicle.

The bottom line: The vast majority of Americans, despite being exposed (or perhaps because they’ve been exposed) to the Americans Elect pitch, are just not interested in Americans Elect or its candidates. If Americans Elect wants to find itself a nominee, it’ll have to change its rules to accommodate a very, very small number of voters. Look for that change, or an utter capitulation, to emerge within the next few weeks.

11 comments to NPR Audience Doesn’t Go With the Buddy Roemer Flow

  • Daniel H

    This is 99% correct information (nothing about Roemer’s tax reform gives tax cut to the fact with flat tax rate of 17%, the rich get 8% income tax). But let’s be honest. No entertaining person is watching MSNBC or Reuters or even listening to NPR. These are the unfortunate easy outlets for Roemer to campaign. Now he IS going on a nationwide tour to speak at colleges around the USA but that is still a small step. People mostly get their politics from front page news online or the Daily Show or the Colbert Report (1st appeared in July and September 2011) . We’ll see what happens when the winner of AE is finally announced.

    Speaking of which, the guidebook in AmericansElect, you can find in documents, says that if there are less than six certified candidates, the top 6 declared automatically go to the convention. And I seriously doubt the board will drop Roemer because of his campaign reform. None of the big Donors knew who their candidate will be when they donated months ago. We’ll see if he changes his campaign points if he wins.

    • Millions and millions of people watch MSNBC, and listen to NPR, and watch/listen/read to the many other outlets on which Roemer’s Americans Elect bid has received attention. Buddy Roemer gets a dozen or so voters for him when millions are exposed to him. That’s not Big Media’s fault.

      Overnight, Roemer’s gotten:

      4 more votes in California
      1 more vote in Texas
      2 more votes in New York
      No more votes in Louisiana
      No more votes in Florida
      No more votes in Illinois
      1 more vote in Massachusetts
      No more votes in Washington State
      No more votes in Ohio
      3 more votes in Pennsylvania, which overtook North Carolina to become the 10th best state for Roemer.

      That’s not NPR’s fault. It’s not MSNBC’s fault.

      As others have asked of you before, I’m asking you to cite the specific passage that says what you claim about ballot access for six candidates. I can’t find such a passage in the Americans Elect documents.

      • Daniel H

        Look for “An Online Presidential nominating process” dated 3.14.12 in the official documents tab.

      • Daniel,

        Read the full documents. You have to follow the footnotes in the unofficial document you cite, which direct you to the Official Rules that are in force. These Rules at http://static.americanselect.org/sites/files/official-documents/pre-election_convention_rules_2012-03-05.pdf declare that “if there are 10 or more Declared Candidates and Draft Candidates in total, three Primary rounds of voting for the office of President of the United States shall be held on the website.” There are 10 or more of these, so clearly the Primary rounds will have to be held. In order to qualify for the Primary ballot, the support votes mentioned in the post are required…

        … unless Americans Elect changes the rules during voting at the last minute. Voting’s begun and this is, let’s face it, the last minute.

        A highly irregular process.

        • Joshua

          Jim: I understand your reading of the rules, but I don’t think they are meant to be interpreted that literally.

          Suppose that there were 370 declared and draft candidates in all (as there appear to be now), but only 5 of them received the required 10,000 or 50,000 clicks to qualify for the primary ballot. It would not make sense for AE to hold three rounds of primary voting to narrow down the 5 eligible candidates down to 5 — all of them would qualify for the nominations round anyway, so there would be no point in that.

          I think that the “10 or more Declared Candidates and Draft Candidates in total” is meant to be interpreted to refer only to declared and draft candidates who have met the minimum supporters requirement.

          If we’re just looking for quirks in the AE rules, how about this one? The AE rules provide that various positions qualify a person to be an “insider” candidate and need 10,000 clicks of support rather than the 50,000 clicks needed for “outsider” candidates. However, President is not on the list. Suppose an outsider candidate selects an outsider running mate for VP and manages to get the AE nomination and become President of the United States. Four years later, the President and VP are not getting along with each other (after all, they came from different parties), and both decide to run for the AE nomination for president against each other. The VP would be an insider and need only 10,000 clicks, while the President would still be an outsider and need 50,000 clicks under current rules.

          • Fair point, Joshua! But I think you and both agree that under the rules, there’s not a provision for a candidate to gain ballot access without meeting the 1,000 votes in each of 10 states (insider) or 5,000 votes in each of 10 states (outsider) threshold.

  • Stephen Kent Gray

    http://www.americanselect.org/candidates/declared

    Buddy Roemer (Reform Party) 2347
    Rocky Anderson (Justice Party) 1038
    Laurence Kotlikoff 686
    Michaelene Risley 637
    T J Ohara 199
    Mike Ballantine (Green Party) 124
    R J Harris (Libertarian Party) 85
    Merlin Miller (American Third Position Party)74
    Dwight Smith 63
    Balke Ashby 50
    Verl Farnsworth 48
    David Jon Sponheim (America’s Third Party) 48
    Sanderson Beck (Green Party) 39
    J L Mealer (Constitution Party) 35
    Scott T Keller 35
    Jeff Block 35
    Michael Bidner 29
    Craig Ennis (you had an article on him before) 28
    Robert Hostetler 25
    Joe “Average Joe” Schriner 21
    Mark Callahan 17
    Charles R Heisinger, Jr (Constitution Party) 15
    Michael Whitley 11
    Daniel Ceko 11
    Erin Magee 7
    Albert Morzuch 6
    Mark Strauss 3
    Gene Zarwell 3

    The problem is that the declared candidates’ support all seem to have stagnated. Also, I’d like to not most people still don’t know who most of these candidate are. Americans Elect’s people have had baised coverage promotimg a handful of their favorite candidates that people don’t like giving the illlusion to outsiders that they’re the only options.

    My favorites:
    Laurence Kotlikoff 686
    T J Ohara 199
    R J Harris (Libertarian Party) 85
    Dwight Smith 63
    Balke Ashby 50
    Verl Farnsworth 48
    J L Mealer (Constitution Party) 35
    Scott T Keller 35
    Jeff Block 35
    Michael Bidner 29
    Craig Ennis (you had an article on him before) 28
    Robert Hostetler 25
    Joe “Average Joe” Schriner 21
    Mark Callahan 17
    Charles R Heisinger, Jr (Constitution Party) 15
    Michael Whitley 11
    Daniel Ceko 11
    Erin Magee 7
    Albert Morzuch 6
    Mark Strauss 3
    Gene Zarwell 3

    I’d like it if the media focused alot of attention on anyone of my candidates.

    http://rjharris2012.com/

  • Bill

    Even as I write, @BuddyRoemer is tweeting an offer of “a free piece of swag” for every vote he gets at AmericansElect. No, really. You can check it yourself.

    Yet another beauty of having a corporation conduct an election, rather than government: inconvenient stuffy old laws against trading bribes for votes no longer get in your way.

    Me, I’m holding out for free beer and sandwiches. Oh, and blackface minstrel shows!

  • Bill

    Jesus wept. I just actually watched that David Sponheim video, right after dinner no less, and now I’m sick to my stomach.

    AECorp and its Emperor-For-Life, Peter Ackerman, must be proud. You can tell that because, although they promised a mechanism whereby any delegate (which would include candidates, presumably) can be flagged for inappropriate behavior, no such mechanism actually exists on the AECorp web site (like the many other broken promises they’ve made in their rush to grab headlines).

    What a bunch of sick f*cks.

  • Mark

    You call candidate Merlin Miller a “supremacist”. I have never heard that West Point graduate say he is superior to anybody! Merlin Miller may be a nationalist, yes! Because internationalist policies are not working.

    The American Third Position party welcomes ANYONE as a member. They are not an exclusive club. I will say that the American Third Position is the only party that voices White American concerns and issues. The other parties are not concerned with the “White” vote. The American Third Position is. I congratulate Merlin Miller!

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