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Buddy Roemer Buying Votes in the Americans Elect Presidential Nomination With “Swag”

Just when you thought the Americans Elect circus couldn’t get any more zany…

… Even though he’s the frontrunner among Americans Elect declared candidates, Buddy Roemer is far from getting enough “support” votes to actually make it onto the ballot. What’s a frustrated candidate to do?

Buy votes with “swag.” Tip of the pen to Bill for pointing out this, one of the latest of Buddy Roemer’s tweets:

Buddy Roemer bribing Americans to Vote for him with a Support Click in return for some Swag...  Buddy Roemer Staff, Retweeted by Buddy Roemer, reads Support @BuddyRoemer on @AmericansElect, tells us why you did it by e-mailing & receive a free piece of swag

The “Support” in the Americans Elect system is a vote, a vote in favor of giving Buddy Roemer ballot access. Americans Elect COO Elliot Ackerman himself referred to the support clicks as voting, declaring “the voting has already begun” on MSNBC TV this month.

Buying votes with free swag? That’s what you get when a corporation with hedge fund money invests in its very own privatized presidential nomination.

The Roemer-Americans Elect model for fixing democracy: bread and circuses.

P.S. Even the offer of free swag isn’t attracting voters to the Roemer-Americans Elect spectacle. Since I last looked early this morning, Roemer’s gotten:

8 more votes in California
2 more votes in Texas
3 more votes in New York
8 more votes in Louisiana
5 more votes in Florida
2 more votes in Illinois
2 more votes in Massachusetts
5 more votes in Washington State
4 more votes in Ohio
3 more votes in Pennsylvania

Believe it or not, that’s an acceleration for Buddy Roemer, so someone’s happy with the cheap t-shirt or keychain, but it isn’t too many someones, and nowhere near the number of supporters Buddy Roemer or any other Americans Elect candidate needs to succeed.

The Roemer-Americans Elect effort will have to up the stakes to bring in more voters. Why not offer something more substantial in return, like a brand new car?

27 thoughts on “Buddy Roemer Buying Votes in the Americans Elect Presidential Nomination With “Swag””

  1. John Lumea says:

    Gullible Voter, come on doooowwwnn!!! You’re the next contestant onnn…

    The Swag Is Right!!!

  2. ITimes says:

    Of COURSE the swag appeal isn’t working. Who in their right mind would want to be caught wearing a Buddy Roemer for President tshirt?

    No swag, Buddy. No swag, please.

    I want $100 to sign up on Americans Elect and vote for you there. Will you offer me $100?

    1. Bill says:

      How about an “I voted for Buddy and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt” tee-shirt?

  3. Bill says:

    @AETransparency (AE Transparency on Facebook), which broke this story, has just filed a formal protest with Americans Elect Corporation requesting de-certification of candidate Roemer for unethical electioneering.

  4. Steven says:

    Glad I didn’t support click him…

  5. Ralph says:

    Nothing says grassroots like free swag.

  6. Daniel H says:

    Of for crying out loud. There is nothing unethical about what Budy is doing!! Nobody has to pay a dime to click their support. Campaign merchandising is what EVERY candidate does. Except Buddy doesn’t ask for your money for the swag. Giving to his campaign fund is a different story, that is the treat for donating. Nobody however is going lose their account, their job, or their finances because of their support. Also you don’t have to be a new voter to email for the swag. I myself emailed to explain why I voted for him. This swag is just a way to get people to ask who Buddy Roemer is.

    1. Horatio says:

      Daniel, I want to make sure that I understand your position on Buddy Roemer’s actions in attempting to buy off votes with gift-for-votes exhanges with Americans Elect delegates.

      Are you saying that what Buddy Roemer is doing is acceptable because it’s what all politicians are doing?

      Are you saying that we should vote for Buddy Roemer because he’s like all the other politicians?

      1. Daniel H says:

        Let’s be truthful here. Buddy Roemer is not getting noticed enough to get that 15% in the poll number to get on the national stage. People on the street don’t even know who he is let alone that he is running for president. So we who support Buddy will do whatever it takes to spread the word, even wear his button or show our bumper sticker, which are the only two items they are giving away. I have the email from Buddy campaign HQ to prove it. No shirt, no keychain.

        And by the way voters are not stupid. A Romney campaign rep called me and asked for my support in the state primary and promised a bumper sticker in return. I declined. Because I do not agree with the issues with Romney.

        Buddy Roemer is a presidential candidate like everyone else, but does his campaign differently. He won’t take more than $100 and and won’t take PAC money. He gets involved in social media probably as much as Ron Paul does. He says the first thing he will do in office is take money out of politics. And I agree with him wholeheartedly. You can vote for whoever you want; but going by the issues that he talks about, Buddy is different from the top candidates.

        Now against Jill Stein? Well I’ll leave that for the next irregular times article.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          Whatever It Takes: Roemer 2012

          I don’t know, Daniel. That sounds kind of ends-justifies-the-meansy, doesn’t it?

    2. Jim Cook says:

      42 USC § 1973I Section C:

      Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both: Provided, however, That this provision shall be applicable only to general, special, or primary elections held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the United States Senate, Member of the United States House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands, or Resident Commissioner of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.

  7. Bill says:

    We want Buddy Bling!

  8. Bill says:

    The more serious question here is: does Americans Elect’s loosey-goosey approach to ‘democracy’ and ‘voting’ encourage things like SwagGate? After all, the voting at Americans Elect isn’t ‘real’…it’s just clicking for ‘support’. It’s like ‘Liking’ Rice-A-Roni on its corporate web site. So why not offer clickers some swag?

    Is this Americans Elect’s vision of Future Democracy?

  9. Trab says:

    You’ve got to be kidding me. Here is a guy who actually stands for something real as opposed to the other nitwits in the major parties and you want to throw him out becuase he asked for support and offered a piece of swag? He’s not done anything wrong except stand up and try and make sense of this mess we are in.

    And the way i see it, he didn’t offer swag for your support/vote, he offered it in return for saying why you supported him.

    To me, when people nitpick at little things like this, means they don’t have much else to pick on.

    Vote responsibly.

  10. Jerome says:

    The “swag” referred to is a button or a bumper sticker to show your support.
    If you “support” a candidate on Americans Elect, then you might want one of those.
    You don’t need to get a button if you don’t want one.
    And you could theoretically lie to get your bumper sticker because there’s no way to verify anyone’s support click.

    Your conspiracy theory site has gone WAY over the cliff, Mr. Kook ! LOL

    What a preposterous blog this has become!
    At first, I thought you had insight.
    Now it’s clearly just absurdity.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      So let me get this straight:

      1. It’s OK because the item’s worth isn’t that big
      2. It’s OK because you might want the free item you’ll be getting
      3. It’s OK because you could lie to Buddy Roemer to get the item

      Shorter version:


    2. F.G. Fitzer says:

      Did you search for “Buddy Roemer” and come to our clear absurdity, Jerome? My, but that’s telling.

      1. Jim Cook says:

        F.G., I think Jerome’s sincere, in the same way I think Ron Paul supporters are sincere.

  11. Joshua says:

    On the AE message board, somebody posted that he had received an e-mail sent to the delegates stating that the leadership “does not anticipate lowering” the requirements for candidates to qualify for the primary.

    Can anyone confirm this e-mail and reprint it on this blog?

    (I have no comment on the proposal in the message board post for a Buddy Roemer/Rocky Anderson ticket because it is just one delegate’s opinion — not something coming from the AE leadership.)

    1. Jim Cook says:

      I haven’t received or seen (until this moment) any mention of any such decision by Americans Elect leadership. Like Joshua, I’d love to know if anybody has documentation of this. Until that documentation appears, I’ll consider it a rumor.

  12. Bill says:

    The fascinating conflict of interest which Americans Elect faces right now regarding #SwagGate is this: if it de-certifies Buddy Roemer for vote-buying it would find itself with no serious declared candidate with anything even vaguely approaching a meaningful number of supporters, which would knock it out of the running for the 2012 election. And if it does not de-certify Roemer, it loses all legitimacy (as would corruption-fightin’ candidate Buddy, himself).

    The solution, which Kriswell predicts, is: American Elects gently, lovingly, and quietly slaps Roemer’s hand with a stern tsk-tsk. Whereupon Rocky Anderson starts offering delegates free pony rides for their votes.

    1. F.G. Fitzer says:

      No, Rocky Anderson would never do that!

      Rocky Anderson would offer something a little bit more egotistical, like a lock of his hair along with every vote.

    2. Joshua says:

      While I take no position as to whether this should be considered a rules violation, I suggest that the AE rules should provide , in case of a rules violation, that a candidate’s support click requirements should be increased. So, for example, a candidate who might otherwise have to get 1,000 supporters from each of 10 states could be penalized by having their requirements increased to need 1,100 supporters from each of 10 states instead. In case of a repeat violation, the requirements could be increased again by a larger number.

      Granted, this isn’t as meaningful as it would be if any candidate actually was expected to qualify for the ballot by getting 1,000 supporters from 10 states. Still, it could be a meaningful sanction under other circumstances. It would penalize a candidate who violated the rules without having to kick them and their supporters out of the AE process entirely.

  13. Mark says:

    There is so much wrong with this story I don’t know where to start. Everyone with a PAC is just expressing free speech? Every lobbyist is buying votes and it’s legal. Gingrich 10mil sugar daddy is buying votes. Obama $35k/ plate fundraisers is buying votes. Romneys spearing at his super PACS fundraiser is somehow not coordinating? Obama charging for his stickers and shirts is ok? But Buddy offering stickers (which you would already have to be a supporter to even want) is wrong? This offer included those 2000+ AE supporters who clicked before the offer was announced. It can’t be buying votes if it retroactive to those who already voted. Get a life

    1. Jim Cook says:

      You left out the bit about the expenses for Buddy Roemer’s presidential run being paid for by undisclosed hedge fund executives and Wall Street private wealth managers. That’s Americans Elect — look it up.

      I’ve got a life. I think what you mean is “stop talking about this.”

      1. Daniel H says:

        Sooo what exactly do you believe these hedge fund exces and Wall street private wealth managers, who gave their donations long before they knew who could be the winning candidate, expect Buddy Roemer to do for them if he is president, even though Buddy is a strong advocate for campaign reform (none of that money goes to Buddy anyway)?

        1. Jim Cook says:

          If Buddy Roemer is the nominee, all of it’s gone toward him. Roemer’s had a number of meetings with Americans Elect execs. Why don’t you ask him?

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