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Does Obama Really Wear A Muslim Shahadah Ring?

I’d call it an October surprise, except that it’s all too predictable.

Right wing writer Jerome Corsi, author of the report “Where’s The REAL Birth Certificate?”, has just published an article asserting that Barack Obama has been wearing a golden ring that marks Obama as a follower of Islam, as the ring carries a portion of of the Shahadah, an Islamic profession of faith.

Corsi writes in this evening’s article, “according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada: ‘There is no God except Allah.'”

The two “Arabic-language and Islamic experts” Corsi cites are by no means neutral. One, Mark A. Gabriel, is an anti-Islam activist, describing himself as “a Christian evangelist. He is also spreading the truth about Islam.” The other, Joel Gilbert, has been an active anti-Obama activist, involved with the Conservative Political Action Committee, having produced one film entitled “Atomic Jihad: Ahmadinejad’s Coming War for Islamic Revival and Obama’s Politics of Defeat”, and another entitled “Dreams From My Real Father”, which repeats the old, debunked assertion that Frank Marshall Davis is Barack Obama’s real father.

Corsi, Gabriel and Gilbert all have the appearance of people with an axe to grind against Barack Obama and against Islam. But, let’s not rely upon ad hominem attacks against their conspiracy theory that Barack Obama is wearing an Islamic ring as a code to indicate solidarity with other Muslims around the world. It’s possible for kooky people to occasionally stumble upon the truth, so let’s look at the facts.

Corsi, Gabriel and Gilbert claim that Barack Obama sometimes wears a golden ring, and that that golden ring has Arabic script on it that reads, when translated into English, “There is no god but Allah.” Let’s look at the evidence itself. Here’s a photograph of Barack Obama’s golden ring, along with some rings that are clearly identified as Shahadah rings worn by actual Muslims.

barack obama shahada hoax

There isn’t much similarity between Barack Obama’s ring and the examples of Shahadah rings that I found. In fact, I couldn’t find a single example of a Shahadah ring that looks anything all like Barack Obama’s ring. (In case you’re wondering, Snopes hasn’t written on this particular conspiracy theory yet.)

Next, let’s look at the part of the Shahadah script that Jerome Corsi, Mark Gabriel and Joel Gilbert say can be seen in the photograph of Obama’s ring, along with other representations of the same piece of the Shahadah script, found elsewhere.

examples of the shahadah script reading there is no god but Allah

As you can see, there is a great deal of variability in representations of the Arabic script of the part of the the Shahadah that is translated as “there is no god but Allah”. The versions of this section of the Shahadah that I could find look little like the script that Corsi and his “experts” say they see on that ring.

But let’s take Corsi’s word for it that the script as he represents it is a coherent, common version of the Shahadah. The truth is, I still don’t see it on Obama’s ring. To me, Obama’s ring looks like it’s got some decorative swirls on it, and nothing more.

Finally, let’s suppose that Jerome Corsi is right, and the squiggles on a ring that Barack Obama sometimes wears do actually represent a part of the Shahadah. So what?

Let’s allow for the sake of argument the further supposition that Barack Obama actually knows that part of the Shahadah is on that ring. So what?

Let’s accept, just to be generous, the idea that wearing a ring with a very abstract representation of a portion of a Shahadah script proves that Barack Obama is himself a Muslim. Even if this is the case, the conclusion I arrive at remains: So what?

The Constitution of the United States clearly states that there is to be no religious test for any public office in the U.S.A. That settles the matter. Barack Obama’s religion is irrelevant.

If Barack Obama is a Christian, I don’t care. If Barack Obama is a Muslim, I don’t care. If Barack Obama believes that he is the reincarnation of the Tibetan Lama of Taxi Cab Enlightenment, I don’t care.

Barack Obama is campaigning for a job. There are rules for what criteria can be used for his selection, and religion is not among those criteria. The job of the President of the United States is not to be a priest. Being President has nothing to do with religion.

So, I say, for once and for all: Shahada, schmahada!

133 comments to Does Obama Really Wear A Muslim Shahadah Ring?

  • YOU Sir are an A1 idiot! OF COURSE the President’s religion matters when he is dealing with matters of national security where our enemies are MUSLIM! Of course it would matter if our COMMANDER IN CHIEF “believes that he is the reincarnation of the Tibetan Lama of Taxi Cab Enlightenment.” WOW I would think you could come up with a much better defense than that but I guess it is true: Being constantly wired-in destroys brain cells. The Kool-Aid doesn’t help either!

    • I may be an idiot, but I’m not too stupid to note that most of the Presidents have believed in absurd religious ideas, like two-thousand year old divine zombies, angels with fluffy white wings, and the creator of the universe personally advising them on matters of specific policies. George W. Bush believed he was divinely appointed. The Reagans had astrologers come to the White House. Abraham Lincoln had seances.

      What matters is what the President does while on the job. The Presidency is not a religious job.

      In your Tumblr blog, you support Mitt Romney, who has some extremely weird religious beliefs. Those weird Mormon religious beliefs are his personal business, though. They’re not relevant to the election unless Mitt Romney makes them so.

      You should note that every single war that Barack Obama has been involved with as President has been against a predominantly Muslim nation – including the war that Obama started in Libya. The facts simply don’t match your conspiracy theory.

      • A naive cowardlyidiot at that. Signs of mental illness called liberalism. Truth means nothing and is a cancer to a lib.

        • So, you’re an anonymous person who is lecturing others about the truth. I find that interesting.

          But, let’s look at the truth about this ring. Are you really so certain that a few squiggly lines, in what look to be just a regular geometric pattern, are a particular set of words in a language that you can’t even read? Are so sure that’s the truth?

          Here’s another truth: The Constitution states that there shall be no religious test for public office. Does that truth not matter to you, anonymous?

      • john crawford

        So to liberals like yourself, it DOESN’T MATTER if obama lied to us and told us he is a Christian? It DOESN’T MATTER if he has an allegiance to islam? Of course liberals don’t care if their president lies…. well to most of us IT MOST CERTAINLY DOES. It’s obvious by your post that you are at best an athiest. You mock our beliefs as all of you pathetic relative humanists do….. 2000 year old zombie? REALLY? You are a POS libtard.

      • TMan

        Please cite the evidence that Bush thought he was divinely appointed. Bush, like most of our country’s forefathers, believed in God an looked for his guidance. They did not just come up with an idea and then say God told me to do it. You’re either ignorant or hateful or both.

        • “Correct.” The word you’re looking for, TMan, is “correct.” J. Clifford is correct.

          “I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn’t do my job.” — George W. Bush

          “‘I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen… I know it won’t be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'” — George W. Bush

      • Bill

        The secular governments in Muslim countries that Obama is help to destroy will be replaced with more radical Islam governments that will come up against Israel and the world. Obama even used the U.S. Air force to destroy the secular government in Libya payed for with our tax dollars.
        Jimmy Carter helped get rid of the secular government In Iran and now Iran has a radical Islam government that is a threat to the world.

        • Anonymous

          Actually the people of Iran overthrew a dictatorial regime that the US had supported for nearly 30 years. This regime was put in place after they had removed a democratically elected president, who was removed for nationalizing Iran’s oil and threatening control by the British and Americans. Carter supported the Shah after he was ousted and allowed him to come to the US (Cleveland to be exact) for treatment. It was American foreign policy during the Cold War that allowed extremism to flourish. If you are going to make bold claims at least have an understanding about history.

      • Roky

        Arab countries that have secular forms of government are being replaced by governments loosely based on sharia law. Sorry but the secular government of Libya is on the path of being completely under Muslim control

        • Adam

          Wasn’t secular Libya one of our biggest enemies in the whole world. So the argument that we replaced a liberal govt with an Islamic one isn’t really a good one. I personlly agree that we shouldn’t have meddled in libyas business but for you to believe that they were allied to the united states is erroneous.

        • Adam

          And Syria, a secular nation has been on our enemy watch list for 15 years while the gulf countries which really are purely fanatical 7th century govta have been our number 1 ally for 50 years in that part of the world. Stop believing everything Ure pastor tells you and start to educate youraelf

    • A.republican

      If Obama was a Muslim then he wouldn’t be pledging our continued assistance and aid to Israel. Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

      • GKR

        WRONG, the Liar In Chief is not helping Israel, the clown wont even meet with their leaders, truth be known it probably wont bother Obama one bit to see Isreal blown off the map

        The ring explains perfectly how the Liar In Chief says he is a Christian on TV, yet he has not did anything for Christians, he constantly takes up and bows down to Muslims throughout the world, the Liar is paving the way for Muslims to take over country`s everywhere and at the same time he is handing us over to our own enemy

        Obama takes up for these Terrorists and then you Libtards that cant even think for yourself continue to take up for a man that is handing you over to the people that want to kill you

        It takes a complete Idiot to give someone a bat to hit you over the head with

        Terrorists do NOT care if you are a Democrat or a Republican, if you are American they want to kill you

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        • He must be tired from all that “constant bowing.” I hear it’s good aerobic exercise, though.

          You must be tired from turning the world into a religious bigotry contest, “my religion” versus “their religion.” Read a history textbook to see how that ends.

          You must be too tired to actually show actual evidence for the claims you make. That’s it.

      • Influence Freedom

        I don’t like Romney or Obama. However, please stop lying about Obama being Christian. Do you happen to know where he attended service for 20 years?? Trinity United Church of Christ.. just because it says christ, does not mean it is christian. It espouses Islam. Also, his so-called step dad, who SUPPOSEDLY adopted him was also muslim, and yet barry soetoro chooses to use the name Barack HUSSEIN OBAMA. He has been raised upon islam, he attended the radical trinity, and his policies are very clear he is radical. Now you can deny it all you want, however, many know better, and know just how radical this guy is and his friends, and upbringing. Mind you this man also got to hang with known terrorists, yet he passed NDAA against us Americans. I don’t even have issue him hanging with radicals, Shoot, many of us many be termed that ourselves who knows lol. My issue is that he gets to hang with radicals and terrorists yet he makes kill lists and has thought to add Americans by removing our due process, via the ndaa, he reatthorized patriot act, he uses drones to kill 90% more then bush ever did, etc., This man is extream, and his upbringing and his choice of where he attnded service for 20 yrs, who his friends are, his 3 days a week hanging also with Frank Marshall Davis, his family, are definitely showing is his policies. Now try to deny the ring, in light of his actual life! I care that he has one policy for how he lives, but another against our rights. I care that he is so secretive about his records, college, etc., I care that he has super extream views and friends, but passes laws against us having them, I care that he is out to destroy all our privacy, I care that they are overthrowing more nations in middle east, even though he promised to bring home troops, I care that he acts like he ended conflicts in Iraq, when in fact that policy was already signed by Bush for 2011, and in fact we still pay private agencies to carry out crap in Iraq, I care he sent more troops to afghanistan, I care that for the very 1st time in american history we have been FORCED to purchase a product of his obamacare via a tax, when he promised it would not be a tax, I care that he said he is a product of Selma when he was born 3 years before Selma, the list goes on and on. So please, get up off your knees of the Obama alter you worship. Realize the two parties have 100% sold us out, and are truly radical AGAINST Americans. It is time to wake up and get back control via 3rd party etc., or loose the nation forever.

  • HAHA

    Oh, but it is relevant in light of his policies, and the ideology that faith requires. Wake up warm, fuzzy guy.

    • What policies do you mean, H.H.?

      Do you mean the policy that “all cards are on the table” and Barack Obama is willing to start yet another war against the Islamic Republic of Iran?

      Do you mean Obama’s policy of engaging in executions, without trial, of Muslims accused of terrorist conspiracy?

      Do you mean Obama’s drone strikes that kill civilian Muslim families in Afghanistan, where he’s followed George W. Bush’s policy of continuing the 11-year war?

      Was it the policy of giving Christian churches in America special access to government money through an expanded and unreformed version of George W. Bush’s corrupt White House Office of Faith Based Initiatives?

      Sorry, was there another policy you had in mind?

      There are plenty of legitimate reasons to be upset with President Obama, and if you take the time to read Irregular Times, you’ll see that we’ve all written in strong criticism of him since before he was elected in 2008. This Shahada ring conspiracy theory is not a legitimate issue, constitutionally or logically.

      People who are pumping up this Shahada ring nonsense aren’t damaging Obama. The issue won’t play with anyone besides voters who would never choose Obama anyway. You’re only embarrassing yourself.

      • gman213

        His policy matters for sure…what about being the most transparent President ever? If he will lie about his religion then he lies about anything and everything else. He is a liar who will be unemployed soon.

        • Adam

          Not a single Muslim was asked about the shahada ring. I’m gonna put it to rest. This is fact based logic; if you don’t like it then I’m sorry you Shoul continue to believe in Santa clause and the easter bunny. Many Muslim men are sucularists and they do wear wedding rings mad of gold. However, they are the last people to be wearing shahada rings because people that wear shahada rings will never wear gold ones. It’s like if someone starts saying the Muslims will only eat halal pork. It is completely counter to the point of a shahada ring. In turkey many men wear evil eye pendants on their necks, once again that is counter because fundamentalist Muslims who wear shahada rings in the first place will never wear gold and believe it is vital to have a beard and totally forbidden for a man to wear a necklace. I even read on the blaze that his imam have it to him in some sort of ceremony which is bogus because Muslims don’t have ceremonies. People are taking up what their own culture do and projecting it on others. If anyone doesn’t believe me, find a Muslim and ask him if a Muslim man who supposedly learned Islam in Indonesia would wear a gold shahada ring. By the way, I know Arabic and that ain’t Arabic. Obviously I’m not an expert, but since everyone believes Muslims want to take over America, don’t u think Muslims would be flaunting obama wearing a ring that indicates hi islamic faith. There was a false rumor that Michael Jackson was Muslim and the Muslim blogwsphere was overwhelmed. I hope people who read this have an open mind and research for themselces

  • Disillusioned

    I wonder if who is president matters even a fraction of what all the attention the position gets.

  • I agree with part of your article and disagree with part of it.

    You’re absolutely right that there’s no evidence Barack Obama wears a Muslim Shahadah ring. What are the kooky anti-reality conspiracy theorists going to say next? That it’s a special Ring of Power that, like Sauron’s One Ring, only shows a secret script when tossed into a fire?

    I don’t agree with this paragraph:

    “The Constitution of the United States clearly states that there is to be no religious test for any public office in the U.S.A. That settles the matter. Barack Obama’s religion is irrelevant.”

    I agree as a matter of fact that the Constitution of the United States declares there is to be no religious test for any public office in the United States. But that declaration describes the standard to be set in our laws, not a mandate for any voter’s heart. It must be against the law to require that a President be Christian or any other particular religion. It’s perfectly within any person’s right to decide on their own that a candidate’s religion is the standard by which they’ll vote.

    So when does a candidate’s religion become relevant to a voter? That’s not a constitutional question, but a substantive question for judgment. I’d rewrite your next paragraphs to read:

    “If Barack Obama is a Christian, I don’t care, so long as Obama doesn’t use his power of office to impose Christian standards on the rest of the nation. If Barack Obama is a Muslim, I don’t care, so long as Obama doesn’t use his power of office to impose Muslim standards on the rest of the nation. If Barack Obama believes that he is the reincarnation of the Tibetan Lama of Taxi Cab Enlightenment, I don’t care, so long as Obama doesn’t use his power of office to impose Tibetan standards on the rest of us.”

    I DO care about a candidate’s religion, and I DO consider it relevant, when the candidate starts tossing around their religion as a reason to do something as President (or Senator, or Representative). The moment they do that, the content of their religious ideas should be evaluated like any other idea being put forward as a justification for a policy.

    Is there a demonstrable factual basis for the religious idea? Is the logic of the religious idea sound? Is there empirical evidence that changing policy as suggested by the religious idea will positively impact our lives in the United States? And is the policy consistent with the boundaries laid down by the U.S. Constitution, the supreme law of the land? If so, then the policy will be a good policy. If not, then there’s no substantive reason to support the policy. I have yet to see any religiously justified policy idea pass the test of factuality and logic (although sometimes there are other reasons for the policy that are logical and factual).

    But I don’t agree with the comment-leavers believerinamerica and HAHA, either, because in the case of Barack Obama there is absolutely no evidence that he is a Muslim, and absolutely no evidence that his policies are informed by Islam. Those two comment-leavers are just off their rockers.

    • You know, when I wrote “Barack Obama’s religion is irrelevant,” I meant it in the sense that you do, Jim. I guess I took for granted that readers would understand the difference between the President’s religion (by which I mean the President’s personal religious beliefs) and the President’s policies about religion.

      Of course, personal religious beliefs can be causal factors involved in the President’s choice of policy, but when that’s the case, if you don’t like the policy, the thing to criticize is usually the policy. Also, a President’s own sloppy justification of their policies using their religious beliefs is open to legitimate criticism, as it’s logically flawed and disrespectful of the separation of church and state.

      An example of this fine line is found in my recent article on Congressman Paul Broun’s recent idiotic rant against evolution: http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2012/10/08/tirade-by-congressman-paul-broun-on-evolution-steps-beyond-arena-of-a-religious-test/

  • Chris

    Lying always matters. Lying about membership in a totalitarian religion matters more than anything, especially when this totalitarian religion includes the doctrine of deception to achieve its totalitarian objectives.

    You haven’t much or any awareness of the salient issues.

    • There has been plenty of Christian totalitarianism too, Chris, and Obama is a Christian. Why haven’t you criticized him for that?

      Mormonism has loads of totalitarian baggage. Why no criticism of Romney in that regard?

      I want to make it clear that I don’t think that politicians’ personal beliefs about religion are relevant – so long as they keep them personal and don’t allow them to become a major shaping force in policy. I just find the inconsistency by many Republicans who give a blank pass to religious extremism within their own party to be quite interesting.

      Secondly, lying matters – when it’s a matter of public policy. If Barack Obama was caught lying to Michelle Obama about whether he ate his vegetables, would that matter in the presidential election? I don’t think so.

      Get this, Chris: Whatever kooky religious beliefs Barack Obama privately holds, whether they’re Christian kooky beliefs or Muslim kooky beliefs, are none of your business.

    • t ball

      Yep, lying matters. That’s why these nuts should stop lying about Obama’s religion for the sake of fear-mongering gullible voters who happen to be religious bigots.

    • You haven’t any evidence that Barack Obama is a Muslim, and therefore don’t have any evidence of a lie about his religion.

      You’re just making shit up because you hate the man. That’s pathetic and pointless. Come on — there are better reasons than that to criticize Barack Obama.

  • gman213

    Well there is a surprise…King Obama is a muslim.

    • Anonymous

      If he were a Muslim he wouldn’t be king nor would he be wearing gold. Why hasn’t that been talked about? I guess it’s just another lie he tells

  • Jason

    So….you don’t actually know Arabic then? How are you qualified then to even write this. At least they had someone that could read Arabic look at it, rather than an author who can’t read any of it.

  • Looneytoonsindville

    You missed the key point. If Obama has been a Muslim for most/all of his life, he has professed to the American people that he is a Christian. Don’t you think that a lie like that would impugn his CHARACTER? The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. stated eloquently that “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”. Most Americans agree with this principle.

    • I think it would impugn the character of the American people if they rejected a candidate for President on the basis of private religious belief.

      • t ball

        anyone who actually believes this, along with the birther crap, has no character to impugn. This is just part of the blatantly obvious campaign to paint Obama as some kind of scary, foreign “other”. They can’t just come out and use race baiting, they have to talk around it.

        • Bingo.

          It’s one thing to be against Barack Obama because his policies are a craven cave-in to corporate interests.

          It’s another thing to be against Barack Obama because you can’t stand dark-skinned people and feel the need to invent secret evidence that he’s Osama Bin Laden’s brother-in-law. Sheesh.

      • john crawford

        The point here is if he LIED about his religious beliefs… then what ELSE has he lied about? In the islamic faith (cult)… it IS permissible to lie to non muslims to forward the agenda of islam… I forget the exact term for it… but it is fully acceptable. If you don’t think this would matter, you are a bigger fool than you have shown by your article.

        • t ball

          No, the point here is that it is blatantly obvious that the idea that Obama is secretly anything other than what he says he is is a lie.

          And if the fringe element are lying about that, then what ELSE are they lying about?

    • “Looneytoonsindville,”

      In order to engage in your flight of fancy, FIRST you have to actually prove that Barack Obama is a Muslim. There’s no such proof out there, and everything else you say therefore has no validity.

  • August Vehar

    Yes, lying does matter. So, what have we seen A LOT OF from the Republican nominee for President? Someone, who was a minister for his Morman faith as an adult, was pro-choice, when he ran for Govenor of Massachusetts, but now is anti-abortion (or did he just try to appear to back-off from that position yesterday?). What adult minister has flipped and flopped about abortion publicly more than this man? Or, he now says that he was completely wrong, when he made his (what he thought were somewhat private comments) about the 47%. When was he telling the truth about his feelings? Was he telling the truth, when he said in Massachusetts about having filed his tax returns there, only to find out a month or two later that, in fact, he had filed them in Utah (regarding challenges to his residency status to run for Govenor)? Was he telling the truth at the debate about his tax policies, when he has supported his running mate’s House-passed billed (which he would have signed, if he were President and the Senate had also passed it), which would cut capital gains taxes to ZERO (which is what a large part of his income is) and experts have said that, rather than paying an (inflated) 14%, he would have paid less than 1%; when he has supported cutting the top rate for billionaires (and, apparently, everyone else) to 20% (when if you eliminated all deductions, it still wouldn’t be enough to make his tax RATE cuts revenue neutral)? He tried to make it seem to the uneducated at the debate that the working/middle class won’t pay MORE in taxes under his (ambiguous) tax plan, when the biggest way that billionaires avoid federal income taxes is the capital gains tax. The very wealthy don’t need mortgage interest deductions, because they don’t need loans to buy a house; they pay cash for it. Whether the President effectively rebutted Governor Romney’s half-truths, misrepresentations, or lies is one thing, but even if he didn’t, it doesn’t lessen in anyway Romney’s actions. So, if lying is your test, let’s take a look at a clear record on whether this minister is trust-worthy on public policy.

  • BertO

    So, assume that the inscriptions are there and that he’s a Muslim. So what? It wouldn’t matter to you that he’d lied for decades? It wouldn’t matter that his motivations had a profoundly different grounding than what we’d been led to believe? It wouldn’t have implications for the very social and legal framework that we live under?

    • john crawford

      EXACLY…. Yes… it DOES matter to those of us who want our president, or any public SERVANT for that matter, to be TRUTHFUL to us.

    • So, assume that because you use the name “BertO,” you’re hiding that you’re a hole, a cipher, a nothing. Who else, after all, would use the letter “O” for a last name?

      Assume that I’m right. Why, then everything you say must be wrong.

      “Assume” is such a useful word!

  • Mike

    It is ashame in this country when there is so much evidence that the president is either a Muslim or for sure pro-muslim and no one seems to care. It seems everything that is brought up about this man, someone on the left is trying to dis-prove it. He is one of the biggest liars ever. At one time says he could no more”disown” his preacher Jeremiah Wright. Then he disowns him. Jeremiah Wright himself said Barack had to say things that were not true to get elected.
    Yes it should matter if the President is a Christian or not. This country has been blessed by God because of our belief in Him. Because we back Israel we have been protected. In case you have not noticed this country is in serious trouble. Could it be that because we have taken God out of about everything that God is removing his protection over us?
    Barack Obama is for abortion and for gay marriage and pro muslim and anti Christian. If you cannot see that you are blind. Any terror attack is labeled as something else. Him and Hillary Clinton had that hardest time admitting that the killing of our ambassador and 3 other Americans was a terrorist attack. They attacked our free speech denouncing what some guy did with a so called movie. Yet when Hollywood attacks Christianity, as they so often do, nothing is said. Anyway if you do not see that you are living in another world. So yes all this smoke about Obama whether it be his birth certificate, his college records, his time at Jeremiah Wright’s white hating church, his wedding band, his father being a muslim, and so many other things, this guy is shady and needs to be put out of office.

    • Liosliath Manner

      “This country has been blessed by God because of our belief in Him. Because we back Israel we have been protected. ”

      This would be funny if it wasn’t so batshit crazy.

      “Arguing with a religious person is like playing chess with a pigeon.
      You could be the greatest player in the world, but the pigeon will still knock over all the pieces, sh*t on the board and strut around triumphantly.”

    • What evidence? Cite the actual evidence that Barack Obama is an actual Muslim.

      There isn’t any, so you won’t. You or someone else will bluster now to cover that up. But your inaction will demonstrate to everyone who pays attention that THERE IS NO ACTUAL EVIDENCE THAT BARACK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM.

    • Esteev

      You will be pleased to know that the Founding Fathers were largely deists that rejected the divinity of Jesus. This is not a Christian nation.

      The fact that you jump at the chance to “believe” that Obama is a Muslim, with the only evidence being some charlatan author who doesn’t believe the moon landing happened, would be laughable if it weren’t so worrying.

      Obama has governed center-right his entire career. But somehow he is, somehow, simultaneously a weak, incompetent, totalitarian Super-Mao hell bent on imposing Shari’a Law and taking away your guns (is that still a current talking point)?

      But, yes! Thank you Jerome Corsi for finding the “proof” that he’s Muslim: some squiggly lines on a ring that don’t look like English to me!!1!

      How do you folks sleep with all those monsters under your bed?

      • GrantS

        Esteev, you almost make four points, however your adherence to flawed logic and misrepresented arguments are holding you back from fulfilling your scholarly potential.
        Let me explain.
        First, the founding fathers were not largely deist, a small number were, primarily Thomas Jefferson, But the point of deism was not to reject the divinity of Jesus Christ, it was to confirm the existence of God through insightful application of reason. Your statement is grossly overgeneralized and presents a false premise upon which you develop a faulty conclusion.

        Second, the only evidence of Barry’s Muslimhood is not the “charlatan” of which you speak. The ring not withstanding, no solid evidence exists that confirms his religous affiliation, enough circumstantial evidence exists to demonstrate the influence of Islam throughout his life as well as bring into question his current faith. Put another way, it is not beyond a reasonable doubt, but it is definitely sufficient to warrant reasonable suspicion.

        Next, I cannot think of a time when Barry has governed right-of-center. He supports partial birth abortion, gay marriage, socialized medicine, amnesty for illegal immigrants, decreasing military assets, etc… This argument is completely unfounded in fact and does not bear scrutiny ar warrant further analysis.
        The only valid point you made was concerning the “monsters under the bed. You are right, it is easier to live in denial, surrounded by warm and fuzzy entertainment media and an overabundance of consumer products.
        Now stop reading this, and go find out what happened between LiLo and Dina

        • Esteev

          Hey Grant — Despite your mocking tone, thanks for responding!

          Yes the Founders were largely diests. That’s why they said “…endowed by their Creator.” Meaning, that what ever bullshit superstition you want to believe in, go right ahead. And yes, Jefferson was one, Franklin another, John Adams one more. Those are a few serious ones.

          And he has made it pretty explicit that he’s Christian. Saying he is,; going to Church, etc., etc. But you don’t want to believe him because you have Hannity, Rove, and other charlatans piped directly to your knee-jerk reaction receptor. It’s pathetic and despicable that a bunch of moron religious right zealots — who have been voting against their economic interest for decades — are up in arms over a ring.

          Mormonism frightens me more than Islam.

          As for Obama being a moderate… have a peak at this study. The take away from this is study: ” political scientist Keith Poole released a study that probably cheered the White House. According to his highly respected classification system, Obama is the most moderate Democratic president since World War II. Which raises a question: How can Obama simultaneously be one of the most divisive and most moderate presidents of the past century? ” My answer is because moron extremists, like yourself, worry about his religion and not economic realities.

          Now, stop reading this, remove your head from your ass, and go fuck yourself.

        • GrantS

          Oh, Esteev, vulgarity is a strong expression of a weak mind; sarcasm a verbal punch in the face.
          Not to continue what is obviously a sore subject for you, but again, I notice some logical flaws in your last comment that warrant analysis. It is inconsistent, if not hypocritical to evoke the founders in in the first part of your statement, but you subsequently deride contemporary adherents to the Consitution as “right-wing extremists”.
          Next, had you read (for comprehension) my comment about Barry’s ring, I agreed that it is weak “evidence” of his religious affiliation. My point was that enough, other circumstantial evidence exists that one musn’t grasp straws. You must have already gotten your feelings hurt by the time you got to that point.
          Further, I concede that Barry has attended church for several years. I am also aware that he was introduced to Christ by Dr. Jeremiah Wright Jr. (his words, not mine). For his mentor and spiritual guide to be a voracious condemner of the United States of America is hardly a prefferable alternative to Barry being a Muslim. On one hand he could be a subscriber to Black liberation theology as preached by Dr. Wright, on the other he may be a Muslim. Either way, his loyalty is in question. But, you are afraid of Mormonism; your fear is misplaced, buddy.
          In regard to the study you referenced, I believe it deserves mention that Kieth Poole is a liberal hack political science professor from UC San Diego, He teaches Marx’s Social Conflicrt Theory and Social Strain Theory as if they are the key to solving society’s problems.
          Given his position, this is a man who fully understands his ability to influence American politics. He relies on the cognitively lazy accept his word as gospel, while disregarding the Biblical Gospel as nothing more than “bull shit superstition”.
          Because I see you are a Constitutionalist, I will leave you with a couple of morsels, food for thought, if you will:

          “A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.” -Thomas Jefferson

          “Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.” -Thomas Paine

          To be honest, through the course of our discussion, Barry’s ring and religion is but a superficial distraction, intentional or otherwise that keeps Americans like you and me from circumventing our political differences to discover our personal commonalities. All people generally strive for the same things: Peace and prosperity. What is at issue here is how we, as a society will accomplish those goals. As the most pervasive authority in people’s worldly life the role of government in it’s citizens lives, often, is the subject of debate. When viewing the issue on a continuum, on one end is Communist totalitarianism on the other end is Fascist totalitarianism. Most people find themselves somewhere in the middle. The result of our Constitutional two-party political system has been that each opposing political party sets goal posts on either side of the middle of the continuum. As time progresses the goal posts are continually reset farther apart. We are now reaching a ponit that neither party is a valid representative of the majority of Americans.

          Therefore, using Paine’s assessment of government, we are all left to choose between the lesser of two evils. I am and youy are free to decide who that is. In the end, all each of us can do is look past the superficiality of political theater

  • Shannon

    It’s not an issue that he’s Muslim, UNLESS he insisted he was a Christian; which he did, on multiple occasions. Why lie? It is his denial of his Muslim faith and his proclamation that he is Christian that makes him highly suspicious.

  • Esteev

    I especially enjoy the folks complaining about Shari’a Law but don’t see the inherent irony of proposing the litany of “faith-based” legislation concerning gay marriage, abortion, et al.

    The irony… it hurts.

  • Public Servant

    IT APPALLS THAT THE WRITER, IN ACCEPTING THAT THIS OBAMA RING MAY HAVE AN ISLAMIC INSCRIPTION, CAN THEN PRETEND THIS DOESN’T MATTER. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF OBAMA LED VOTERS IN 2008 TO BELIEVE HE WAS CHRISTIAN??– EVEN THOUGH HE SLIPPED ONCE AND MENTIONED HIS “MUSLIM FAITH” IN A T.V. INTERVIEW IN 2008? DIDN’T DEMOCRATS GLEEFULLY REMOVE NIXON FOR LYING ABOUT WATERGATE? WASN’T NIXON BLAMED FOR A COVER-UP? WOULD THIS EXPOSE OF THE RING ALSO, IF PROVEN TO BE TRUE, BE CONSIDERED A COVER-UP? WHEN OBAMA HAS ESSENTIALLY DESCRIBED THE KILLINGS BY JIHADIS OF AMBASSADOR STEVENS AND OTHER AMERICANS IN LIBYA AS A “BUMP IN THE ROAD,” AND NOW WE LEARN HE COULD BE A CLOSET MUSLIM, THERE WILL BE ENORMOUS REPERCUSSIONS– ON NOV 6.

  • Esteev

    I always trust authors that have had their books removed from the shelves thanks to factual inaccuracies”.

    Kudos to you Jerome Corsi, you have found the lowest of the lowest common denominator and bilked them for out of few dollars and their logic and reasoning skills.

  • David Jenkins

    It matters to me. The fact that it may not matter to you does not matter me either. That does not make either of us stupid, just we just have differnt values. I will continue to promote my views as you will. I hope your values and opinion do not come back to haunt us both.

  • GrantS

    It doesn’t matter if Obama’s ring is or isn’t ebossed with the Shahada. He verbally confirmed his Muslim identity when he addressed the Arab world in Cairo in 2009. He greeted the crowd with the phrase, “As-salamu alaykum”. This is a strictly islamic greeting of peace and considered inappropriate for use by a Christian. Even Arab Christians do not use it because it invokes Allah. If he were a Christian he would have used the appropriate Arab greeting, “Salama”. Or, he is such a chronic panderer he cannot help but tell his audience what they want to hear (sometimes in the accent they want to hear), even at the risk of appearing disingenuous. Either way he is failure…

    • Anonymous

      Right…like other presidents in the past never made a cultural or religious mistake when greeting people in other nations. Let me point out that your post isn’t proof he is a Muslim.

      • GrantS

        Being raised in a Muslim country, that is not a “mistake” Barry is likely to make. Please keep in mind I did pose an alternative explanation for his use of the phrase.

    • Liosliath Manner

      It’s not “strictly Islamic”, and you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Allah is not mentioned in that phrase.

      The phrase translates DIRECTLY to “Peace be upon you (all)”

      • GrantS

        I invite the other readers to conduct independent research on the use of this phrase. I expect them not to take my word or yours. Neither of us has produced credentials; however, you insist on asserting your “expertise” on this topic. Allow me to concede a moment, for the sake of argument, that the phrase in question is not strictly Islamic, Barry is still a pandering fool. You are obviously going to support him regardless of his shortcomings, and will always rationalize his motives. Even if his intentions are good, the results of his actions are questionable at best and, more accurately, detrimental to the future of our Constitutional Republic.

        • Liosliath Manner

          “Allow me to concede a moment, for the sake of argument, that the phrase in question is not strictly Islamic, Barry is still a pandering fool.”

          We’re not discussing the drawbacks of the president here. This is about the ring and the supposed “evidence” that proves he’s Muslim. You must have a different agenda.

  • Update: a new photograph has surfaced which clearly demonstrates that Barack Obama is indeed NOT a Christian.

    I apologize to all here for my statements which, in retrospect, were incorrect. Clearly Barack Obama is following a non-Christian agenda. Look at the photo for yourself to see what the religious agenda of the Obama adminstration turns out to be.

  • GMpilot

    Public Servant:
    If the ring “may” have an Islamic inscription, then it doesn’t matter. If it doesn’t have one, then it might matter. Nixon was blamed for a coverup because we have actual evidence that he was involved in one; a coverup involving a crime. AFAIK, being Muslim is not a crime (at least not yet). No one has provided proof that Obama is one anyway. People have been trying for nearly five years without success, so he is likely the Christian he says he is.
    By the way, typing in ALL CAPS doesn’t make your argument any better. It just means you’re being shrill (and you can’t find the Shift key).

  • Russell Moker

    THIS president’s religious leaning is indeed VERY relevant for the multiple reasons enumerated above in previous comments. As for the religious practices of former presidents and our founding fathers, NONE of them have advocated destruction of America. The same naivety and fanaticism that resulted in the election of BHO still lingers and that is indeed regrettable.

  • Don

    I was with Dr. Gabriel when this story broke. He was asked to give his opinion on the script and nature of the ring. He spoke honestly about what he saw there. He was further asked to comment on who would wear such a ring. If you actually take the time to read the article on WND.COM you will see that is all he commented on. He is a native arabic speaker and you are not. I will trust his opinion on the matter of the nature of the writing on the ring. Just because you could not find a similar ring in your search indicates either a lack of effort or concern for the truth.
    Slighting such a good man because he is now a Christian and cares about sharing that faith with others is why he will not accept anymore interviews from the press for now. Your are below contempt for attempting to paint all of the people involved with the article with the same brush.

    • Liosliath Manner

      “Dr.” Gabriel has an enormous axe to grind against islam. It’s telling that both of the “experts” that they consulted have a vested interest in perpetuating this lunacy.

      • GrantS

        Islam is not a true religion. Allah is not the one and only God, and Muhammad was not his prophet. May he and his followers succumb to the righteous people of The Book.

  • Heartland Hijab

    Just for the record, if there is a record: Muslim men are not allowed to wear gold rings. It would be highly unlikely that the Shahada would be engraved or cast into a gold ring for a man, as a man’s gold ring would be considered “haram” or forbidden. Additionally, all of the “big three” religions profess that there is only one god, and that that god is God… Not sure why it would matter if that belief were expressed in Arabic, English, or Chinese?

  • Bill

    I have to say it. believerinAmerica shouts “OF COURSE the President’s religion matters when he is dealing with matters of national security where our enemies are MUSLIM!” What pisses me off about this attempt at an argument is that it reveals the same brain-dead thinking that we see among homophobes who assert that homosexual men shouldn’t be allowed to teach in schools for the safety of our little boys. Because, you know, heterosexual women never sexually abuse male students.

    The last time I checked, two of our three enemies in World War II were Christian countries. OF COURSE Franklin Roosevelt, himself a professed Christian, shouldn’t have been allowed to be commander in chief!

    I mean, WTF?

  • Islam is NOT a religion. It is a political movement to destroy the West. That is a very important distinction. Obama is in essence a destroyer for the sake of destruction, a nihilist, the first such to become President. The object to be destroyed is America. Instead of working through or with the Congress (as required by the Constitution), the President opts to rule like a monarch by decreeing things to be so such as his recent declaration on so-called Green energy industries despite the failure of companies like Solyndra and First Solar.

    Obama is not stumbling, but racing to his goal to destroy the United States. It has been a dream of the nihilistic left to destroy the United States and all of Western civilization. Yet they remain silent on what will replace it. I suspect it will be, as Marx termed, the dictatorship of the proletariat where the working class has control of political power.

    Islamists are driven by religious commandments to make war with non-Muslims and establish a global Caliphate based on Sharia Law.

    Where everyone is making a mistake is in classifying Islam as simply another religion. It is not. It is a subversive political movement who’s objective is the overthrow of Western democratic government and law and replacing it with Sharia law. Seen in this light, it is apparent that it is as dangerous as was Soviet style communism or Germany’s fascism. Islam has no place in the West, it’s values are incompatible with ours. A devout Muslim can not serve two masters, secular and Sharia. It’s Allah or nothing.

    • You’re parroting. Google the joint appearance of “Islam is NOT a religion,” “political movement” and “to destroy the West” and you get over 1,000 results.

      Stop panicking and think for yourself. Have you ever met and spoken with someone who’s Muslim? Try it some time. Try it five times, and you’ll figure out that Muslim people are incredibly diverse and human, for worse but also for better.

    • Anonymous

      You are completely uneducated and brainwashed.

  • Looking at it from a secular perspective in New Zealand.

    I don’t really care what religion he is….but if he is a Muslim, so what? Muslims in the US Forces fighting for freedom against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and if it’s good enough for them, then it’s good enough to be their Commander in Chief.

    But that being said, Obama was clear to the American people on more than one occasion, and even recently, in describing himself as a Christian. In 2008 he described his conversion to Christianity. He likes a good Pork Chop.

    So he’s either a very bad Muslim and lied to the American people, and should be impeached, or this is another beat-up based on something quite flimsy. For all we know, it could have been his Grandather’s and he wears it for reasons of posterity (just like my wife wears a relative’s ring).

    So whether it’s true or not, I hope the Republicans don’t latch onto it, lest it bite them in the bum.

  • “So what?”?
    Nescient JClifford:

    Devout Muslims wishing to deceive ignorant and gullible non-Muslims (and those craven, ignorant and gullible non-Muslims who wish to be deceived) often attempt to demonize critics of Allah and his prophet by accusing them of “Islamophobia,” “racism,” or “extremism.” Often, they accuse them of presenting Islamic “sacred” texts out-of-context.

    When allowed to speak for themselves, Allah and its apostle prove such accusations false. According to Muslims, Muhammad’s words and deeds are recorded in Qur’an, hadith collections, and sira. In these texts, Muhammad and his allah command the conversion, subjugation and humiliation, and murder of non-Muslims to make the world Islam.

    Following is some of that which the devout fear you’ll discover.

    I. MUHAMMAD THE GENOCIDAL MONSTER

    These open-ended, universal commands for offensive warfare against those who refuse to convert to Islam or submit to its tyranny sum up nicely the predicament that’s faced non-Muslims around the world for nearly one and one-half millennia:

    “the Messenger of Allah . . . would say: ‘Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war. . . . When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. . . . Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. . . . If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them . . .'” (Muslim Book 19, Number 4294).

    “fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war) . . . ” (Qur’an 9:5).

    “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (Qur’an 9:29).

    “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter . . . ” (Qur’an 5:33).

    Ibn Kathir says of this verse: “‘Wage war’ mentioned here means, oppose and contradict, and it includes disbelief, blocking roads and spreading fear in the fairways. Mischief in the land refers to various types of evil.” So, Muhammad requires execution, crucifixion, or cutting off hands and feet from opposite sides for “disbelief.”

    “Allah’s Apostle said: ‘I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle [. . .] if they perform that, then they save their lives and property from me . . . ‘” (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).

    “It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise” (Qur’an 8:67).

    “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘. . . I have been made victorious with terror . . .'” (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220).

    There’s much more: http://amillennialist.blogspot.com/2004/07/allah-and-his-false-prophet-command.html

    • t ball

      Christians have as much blood in their history as any other religion. The problem is not Islam, the problem is religious fanaticism of ANY faith. Your intolerance is as big a problem as theirs.

      • GrantS

        Religious fanaticism is not inherently problematic. The problem is that fanaticism usually manifests itself as violence in regard to the Islamic faith. Looking back throughout history to find examples of Christian violence hardly bears scrutiny when applied to a contemporary context. Besides, with regard to Christian-Muslim relations, the most oft cited example of “Christian violence” is the Crusades, which people fail to realize was an effort to protect Christian pilgrimage routes to the Holy Land. I am, as I believe most people are, a tolerant person in so far as other tolerate me, I am not, however, in the habit of denying the existence of the threat to western civilization posed by Islamic extremism. So, “coexist” and “tolerance” are great as abstract notions and bumper stickers, although as a practical approach to resolving foreign policy issues, it amounts to acquiescence to those who are willing to employ violence and terrorism as a means of suppressing resistance and opposition.

    • Oh, puhleeze. Read the Christian Bible some time and you’ll find dozens of phrases just like this.

      So you’re going to declare war against Christianity today, too? Right? Right?

      Cue the crickets…

  • jack levy

    It is so obvious liberalism is a serious mental disorder to the point of cultural and personal suicide.

    • Jack, can you explain to me what your term cultural suicide means?

      To me, it sounds like the term means that you don’t like that people in the U.S.A. are given the freedom by the Constitution to express whatever culture they like, even if it disagrees with yours.

      • GrantS

        Please, allow me.

        Mr. Levy used a metaphor, in which he compared society to a human life. he further made the allegorical assertion that Liberalism is an instrument of death, that when self-imposed is equivalent to suicide.

        His point is well demonstrated by states such as California, who despite possessing the 6th largest economy in the world is buckling under the economic pressure induced by the implementation of Liberal policies, both economic and social.

        As for the personal suicide aspect of his comment. When Liberalism is sufficiently implemented on a national level, to the point of creating further insolvency (national debt is $16 trillion and growing), the resulting economic collapse will create a worldwide security threat that will jeopardize the lives of many Americans.

        • jae

          No, grant. That is not what he wrote. He wrote of CULTURAL suicide.

          Culture abd society are related but not the same.

          Culture is the collection of chosen habits a group of people make. Whether a culture is dyi.ng or progressing is a matter of opinion. His comment is that he does not approve of liberals’ cultural choices.

          Well, who asked him?

        • GrantS

          So, jae, you chose to play a game of symantics rather than debate the substance of my comment. Well, I concede, cultural was the correct word. Now let’s discuss the relationship between culture and society. Culture drives the direction of society, much as a brain controls a body. The destruction of the brain is, effectively, the end of the body’s useful existence, right?
          But, I digress, I used the wrong word… Any input regarding the abject failure of progressive liberal policy when it is implemented on a wide scale?

          • Look at life expectancy across OECD countries for developed countries with more “progressive liberal policy” than the United States. Then look at life expectancy for the United States.

          • jae

            No. The difference between culture and society is not semantics. It goes to the heart of your snippy, small minded comment.

            Further, your brain / body analogy is not apt. Culture isnt a brain.

            The cultural suicide idea is clumsy and not reflective of an intelligent political position.

      • GrantS

        jae, I was unaware that we were debating the efficiency of Jack’s cultural suicide metaphor. Either way, he made his point.
        Some people are endowed with common sense, others attend universitiy, receive the standard indoctrination, and believe, falsely, that they are intelligent.
        As for the “culture is to society, as the brain is to the body” analogy, it was, like as not, well played on my part.

  • gsgs

    why would Corsi,Gilbert not show the pics ?
    Are they hoping to have it exclusively, to make money from it ?
    copyright on Obama’s ring-writings could be challenged
    by Obama … Or are they just afraid their theory is debunked
    when they show it ?

  • Dr. Conspiracy shows clearer photos of the Barack Obama ring than Jerome Corsi did, demonstrating clearly that the ring has no Arabic script on it whatsoever.

    • Kevin

      The photos you mention don’t seem to show the portion of the ring in question.

      • yes they do.

        the photos from WND’s Jerome Corsi don’t show anything nearly as crisp. They’re like trying to read the newspaper 3 seconds after waking up in the morning after a very bad night’s sleep.

        Can you find any clearly focused images of these rings that show any Arabic script?

        • … More Crickets …

          … Because Kevin Can’t …

          … More Crickets …

        • Kevin

          No, which nevertheless doesn’t means Jim’s show the portion of the ring in question. They’re clear all right; clearly focused on a different portion of the ring.

          • Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. It’s the hidden part of the ring that’s all covered with Arabic script.

            Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

            • Kevin

              Seriously? Look at your pics and then look at the portion being claimed contains the script. Different. Just plain different. No sarcasm needed, just use your eyes.

              • Liosliath Manner

                I’ve looked at every single photo of the ring available. And – even though I read/speak/write Arabic, I’ve asked at least a dozen native Arabic speakers if they see any signs of Arabic script on that ring.

                The answer is…there is NO SCRIPT. There are many other reasons to not want to vote for Obama – this should not be one of them. The ring allegation is ridiculous.

              • Kevin

                Every single photo? Well we know that’s a lie. Now if you have some particular photo that shows the portion in question, post it.

              • Liosliath Manner

                Every single photo available via a search on Google Images. If you actually have a clear photo showing this supposed script, YOU post it – the burden of proof is on those pushing this ludicrous story.

              • Kevin

                As I already pointed out, a clearer picture is needed for judgment. I didn’t claim to have one, nor to know what the case is here. I did respond definitely to the nonsense claim that if he is a Muslim, it is not relevant to the election. That is all.

              • Kevin,

                You just called Liosliath Manner a liar. So now it’s on you. Show us the photo of Barack Obama’s ring that clearly shows an Arabic script on it. If you can’t, you’re engaged in highly inappropriate political behavior.

                And let me say ahead of time that course you can’t, because there is no such photo showing clearly that Barack Obama has a ring with Arabic script on it.

                So who’s got the problem here, Kevin? You do.

              • The only difference is that one is pixellated and blurred, and that the other is not. It’s the same shape, clarified in the clearer picture.

  • Kevin

    I think a much closer examination is needed for a definitive decision. But yes, his religion matters as least insofar as, if he’s Muslim, he’s lied publicly and repeatedly. There’s no Constitutional religion test, but the American people can vote against or for him for any rationale whatsoever. Lying about his background is meaningful in that case.

    • t ball

      No, a closer examination is not needed just because some conspiracy nut throws out a wild accusation with no evidence. The burden of proof is on the one making the accusation, and the “proof” is sorely lacking.

      • Kevin

        A closer examination is needed to determine the truth is what I meant. I wouldn’t be voting for him regardless. And if you think no examination is needed at all, then fuss at the author of this article not me.

    • I will concede, Kevin, that if you wish to vote against Obama for completely idiotic, prejudiced, and ill-informed reasons, it is your constitutional right to do so.

      There are good, solid reasons to vote against Obama. His policies are too far to the right. He agrees with Mitt Romney far too much. A vote for Jill Stein is certainly called for in 2012, I think.

      • Kevin

        He to the right of Lenin perhaps, but he’s a plain and public egalitarian ideologue. How much more left does he need to be? Or is it his penchant for ignoring the law whenever he wants that you feel is “right”?

  • Well, T Ball, I say that you’re in on the consipracy to Islamicize America!

    I can tell, because you used the letter i a lot in your comment, and I have two experts (who just so happen to be anti-Islamic conspiracy theorists) who say that anyone who writes with the letter i many times in a piece of writing must be a secret agent of Muslim Madness!

    A much closer examination of your conspiratorial ways is clearly needed. Has someone contacted Homeland Security? When will the congressional hearings begin?

    I wonder… Oh darn. I used the letter i in my comment! I must be part of the Islamic conspiracy!

    Oh no – I just used the letter i again! What a dupe I am!

    Augh! There it is again!

  • Things are so bad, I would vote for Big Bird before voting for Obama. ABO in 2012; Anybody (including Big Bird) But Obama.

    • So, you’d vote for Sarah Palin. You’d vote for Vladmir Putin. You’d vote for Octomom for President.

      Congratulations for your discernment.

      Why are you pursuing this political race to the bottom, Yetta?

      Why not vote for somebody better?

  • Liosliath Manner

    Look at this photo – no Arabic script whatsoever:

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl-obama-wedding-ring.htm

  • Anonymous

    Honesty and credibility is at issue here. You tell the world of your Christian faith but your actions don’t back them. Don’t go to church on Sundays, maybe wearing symbolic jewelry of an Islamic faith, stewardship of my tax dollars, dodging the truth on Libya, Fast and Furious, I’ll cut the deficit in half, I’ll double imports, etc. His wife is pitching healthy life styles yet he’s eating burgers and sucking down beers. Leaders lead by example and Mr. O is not a good leader period. In fact, there hasn’t been good leadership in the WH for many years.

    • oddsox

      JClifford is mentioned in the column, even given a GIF applause…

      • That’s true. I’m quite happy to have the link to Irregular Times. I’m even more happy that accurate information about the absurd claims by Jerome Corsi is being spread.

        • oddsox

          This Corsi article was posted on the Tea Party website. But the poster later added a retraction:

          “I have just been informed that this article may not be correct the reason being Muslims do not wear gold rings as they are not permitted to wear gold, and also to wear this on the is left-hand would be an insult Islam as the left-hand is unclean

          Hadith 2:

          It is reported in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim from Ibn Umar ??? ?? ???? ????? that Rasoolullah Sallallahu ta’ala alayhi wa sallam had a ring made from gold, and in one narration it has been mentioned that he wore it on the right hand and then threw it away and had a silver ring made, which had ?? ???? ??? engraved on it. He Sallallahu ta’ala alayhi wa sallam said, No person should engrave his ring with an engraving that is similar to that of my ring. Huzoor Sallallahu ta’ala alayhi wa sallam wore his ring, with the gemstone would face his palm.”

  • truth

    If Obama was a Satanist would you want him to run the country, that is, would you support him, in the spirit of Obama, in his embracing things satanic, which is in the spirit of evil, in the spirit of the Satan. Those who in the spirit of Islam, think to dominate and control the world in their religious Government structure, seeking to impose sharia law upon the land, would it then be good for a person to live in the spirit of Islam, furthering the cause of those who live by the sword? It is those in the spirit of the United Nations, who believe it is best to control all the land in the world and dictate how it is used. Many of them are is the spirit of Antichrist, like those who are in the spirit of Islam, who are of those in the spirit of the UN, who believe what those members are doing is good and right, striving to impose their will upon the world, even though many of their desires go against the US constitution which is in the spirit of liberty and freedom under God; seeking to take away our rights to live free without someone watching over us, tracking every move, that we have liberty to pursue happiness; to go and shoot guns in practice and sport, that we have the right to defend ourselves from tyranny foreign and domestic, but there are those in the spirit of the UN, who in that realm, think it best to take away liberty, to punish law abiding citizens by denying our rights; to take away our rights to bare arms, the rights to speak freely in the public square, to worship God in Christ, and display the ten precepts of righteousness that our children know what is good, and that they seek to impose global taxes, laws and desires upon US citizens. They don’t see that this is not right, in the spirit of the US Constitution, but believe it right in the spirit of the UN. They also believe that it is right to pull, what is to be a child, out of the womb to kill them, denying what is alive and human their right to live, They believe in the spirit of homosexuality; gay marriage, not for their rights in the spirit of gay marriage, but in the spirit of the UN and population control. But it is in the spirit of Christ, the spirit of the Constitution, the spirit of what is right, the spirit of freedom, that in that spirit we have a right to have children, to own a farm or house, or to start a business, where they employ people who pay taxes, that we help those who can not help themselves in the spirit of what is right, to help people start businesses, to help their wealth grow in savings and investment, that people invest their money in business to receive dividends upon its growth, that we all prosper in what is given, in the spirit of what is right and good in the spirit of Our Constitution, in the spirit of truth, in what is right. The spirit in which a person lives, even the religion where his will is guided, is very important in values, in truth, in their will imposed on the people, whether in the spirit of freedom and truth, or in the spirit of men, in the desires of those who are in the darker spirit, which is of death, with out mercy or compassion for life and liberty, which is also the spirit of NATZ, and of those of Communism, where the state controls the lands, and the state sets up mega cities that the people can not live where they would like in the spirit of freedom, and are those who are in the spirit of the UN, of which Obama, and I’m afraid, Romney is in also. It is in the spirit of God, in Christ, that we live in the principles of life liberty, freedom, in the spirit of what is right, which we know within our hearts, that we recognize what is right, and allow people the freedom to choose while upholding the truth in the spirit of the Constitution, and remain sovereign as a country, having our own checks and balances, our own currency within our own Government, that outside entities do not come against us in the spirit control and conquering us, outside the realm of God, they they think they would be better stewards of what is America’s peoples; America.. Religion very much allows us to see the spirit of a person, that they act in the spirit of what is right and true, in the spirit of the US constitution, and not in the spirit of another global Government, who are in the spirit of men, and the desires of the few who are behind those in the spirit of the UN. It is the spirit of people that guides the direction they go, and it is those in the spirit of that man, who follow him, that they do his will, which can be aginst the truth. But it is the spirit of Christ that we strive in truth, that we do not deny the truth in our hearts, to do that which we know it not right. It is in this truth that we give in the spirit of Christ, what is of God, to pay our taxes for the sake of the poor and sick, that they are cared for, that we give not of the crumbs off the table, but prepare a place, that we elect those who are of good spirit, measured in Christ, that they do what is right and good, that they are good stewards of what we give, that we receive the blessing of our good fortune, in what is right and just, that we live in the spirit of God in His promise. It is for us to decern the spirit of men and choose accordingly, who will lead us, in truth.

  • If obama was a sincere Satanist i would say that is his business.

  • oddsox

    JClifford, you write:
    “what if… Barack Obama is himself a Muslim. Even if this is the case, the conclusion I arrive at remains: So what?”
    Well, if Obama IS a Muslim, then he’s also a liar because he’s said he’s a Christian.
    I don’t care for Rev. Wright, but 20 years in his church says to me that Obama is indeed a Christian and not a Muslim.

    But here’s the larger point:
    With 21 days until the election, the Birther/Muslim/Marxist conspiracy theorists are making a terrible tactical blunder. With their polarizing accusations and by distracting focus away from the one issue that resonates with the voters — the Economy — they’re unwittingly helping to re-elect Obama.

    Romney will do better with the ECONOMY.
    That’s why I’m not voting for Obama again.

  • P Parks

    If you are a Moslem and you convert to Christianity or any other religion, you are an apostate and good for nothing else except death. Every devout moslem owes this responsibility to Allah. You say that Obama is a moslem. Obama says that he is a Christian. If the Moslems believed this, considering all the religious zealots in the world, you would think that there would be continual threats and attacks against the president. If the moslems don’t believe that Obama is a Moslem, then why do you believe it?

  • Hold up a big picture of Jesus Christ while Obama is speaking and I bet he will have you arrested! Give it a try! I dare ya, I doulble dog dare ya!

  • Wayne Riker

    Obama’s ring is a Celtic knot ring, so is mine in silver. Romney is also Celtic and proud of it: his adopted black grandson, Keiren, is Celtic for “person of black skin”

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