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Shirley Chatel Makes Alabama’s Christianity Look Bigoted

Alabama Christians are showing their true colors this week, in their responses to a public speech by atheist Amanda Scott, who requested that the government of Mobile, Alabama recognize the equal legal status of atheist residents of the city, rather than giving Christians preferential treatment.

In response to an invitation by local TV station WKRG to share judgments about Amanda Scott, some Christians said that Scott should be killed, assaulted, or commit suicide.

shirley chatel mobile alabamaLess physically violent, but just as abhorrent to the democratic values upon which the United States was founded, were calls from Christians for Amanda Scott to renounce her American citizenship and live outside the USA.

Shirley Chatel of Mobile Alabama called for the exile of Americans who don’t believe in Christianity’s god, writing, “She needs to go to another country!”

Shirley Chatel wasn’t alone in this idea. She was joined by Shirley Ard Coburn, who wrote, “She needs to fall on her knees and repent and ask Jesus to open her eyes to the truth. Then if she chooses not to do that go to a country that does not believe in God.”

But then, many Alabama Christians didn’t think that the exile of atheists out of the United States should be voluntary. Katrina Mullins Turner urged a forced deportation of Amanda Scott: “Just ship her out of this country!”

Ron Pierce of nearby Neely, Mississippi added in a strange connection to ISIS, the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, making a proposal to, “Send her to ISIS they would love her”. At first, this seems like a contradiction, given that Amanda Scott is an atheist, and ISIS soldiers are devout Muslims who threaten to kill anyone who doesn’t share their religion. Then again, it’s possible that Ron Pierce rather admires the ISIS attitude toward nonbelievers, and is hoping that ISIS soldiers will kill her.

katrina mullins turner alabama christianOther Christians joined in on the call for voluntary exile or forced deportation:

Malinda Causey: “Send her to a country that was not founded on God!”

Donna Martin: “She can like it or lump it! Whine to someone who gives a f—-…I don’t!! She could also MOVE!!”

Tony Kramer: “Send her to the planet Venus! Maybe God won’t be there but HE IS HERE.”

Diedre Koontz Cowart: “Our country was founded by men of great courage and faith. If you don’t like it, leave.”

Tammy Ellzey Harold: “Tell her to move to a Communist country…country should not have to change anything to suit a small minority….what happened to majority rules???”

John Owen Anderson: “Get the hell out of the United States”

Dawn Donnelly: “This country was founded on Christianity and that’s who it’s going to be and stay!!! You either continue to live here and except OUR RULES,LAWS and RELIGIONS or LEAVE, take your pick!! We’re NOT Athiest or Muslim,we are Christian….period!!”

Becky Smith Williams: “This country was and is based on God , if u dont like that move to some other place or better yet ur own little island.”

Cheryl An Dell Worley: “she should move out of America we were founded own in God we trust”

Ruth McKinley: “I think if she doesn’t like it she can get out of America, We this Country, is founded on faith and love and God is Love!”

Carrie Brush Dickens: “Dont like it LEAVE America!”

Susie Hepstall: “if she don’t like god she needs to go to a different country”

Phyllis Dommert Hagler: “This country was founded on Christianity so if that offends people go back to your country.”

Joy Corbitt: “Send her to iRock Afghanistan anywhere but here”

Patricia Maynard: “She should pack her bags and leave the U.S.A.”

Tommy Kirksey: “This country was founded on GOD, The Bible and If you don’t like it , Please feel free to MOVE to another country”

Karen Peacock Hoof: “Send her out of this country!!”

Donnie Calloway: “i say no the atheist if they don,t like it let them leave the united states”

Jordan Shaw: “I think that athiest needs to go live else where… This nation was founded on God.”

Dana Ashley Moss: “Send her to an atheist country. Our country was founded on God.”

Sharon Lavender: “Send her to the Iraq to live with them. See how fast she prays to god.”

Henry Jolley: “Dump her off at the Iraq border and tell her she’s home, hit the road.”

Debra Roberts: “Tell her to get out of God’s country”

Peggy Burt Burke: “Send her a$$ to a Muslim country!”

Jeremy Smith: “Atheists should all be removed from our God loving country.”

Ashton Wolverton Shirley: “Whoever doesn’t like what this country was founded on is welcome to SHUT UP OR PACK UP”

Lynette Stanley: “Why don’t all these atheist and non believing people get on a bus to no-where. If she wants an atheist world she is going to get it when she gets her place to rest for eternity. Burn, burn.”

That’s by no means all the messages from angry Christians calling for Amanda Scott and other atheists to leave so that the USA can be a purely Christian country. It might take all day for me to find them all. The point, I hope is clear. The next time you wonder why atheists aren’t willing to join in with Christian worship, and to accept Christian attempts to claim the federal government as an instrument of their religion, remember what Amanda Scott has faced as a result of her request for simple equality. The religion that these Alabama Christians are showing is not a religion of compassion.

9 thoughts on “Shirley Chatel Makes Alabama’s Christianity Look Bigoted”

  1. Mark says:

    And Christians think that they are the ones being persecuted for their beliefs.
    How sad that they are so intolerant.

  2. Bill says:

    God is Love. How sad for these *sshats that they are so far from God.

  3. Charles Manning says:

    Did any “believers” offer support for the equal treatment advocated by Amanda Scott?

  4. Dave says:

    Peregrin, like Charles Manning I wonder if you found anyone in Alabama who made supportive comments regarding Amanda’s doings there.

    Also, can you point me to anything specific in the New Testament (Christianity has its origins there, not the Old Testament) that promotes or defends the kind of comments and/or threatening activities of some in Alabama who think they are taking some kind of a stand for God or Christianity?

    What comes to my mind is the parable of the tares. Or the division of those claiming to love God into sheep and goats. Or those who make a claim to heaven by saying “Lord didn’t we do many mighty works in your name” and God’s response to them “depart from me, I never knew you.”

    1. Jim Cook says:

      Not to jump in here, Dave, but pretty much the entire Book of Revelation comes to mind.

      1. Dave says:

        By all means, jump in. The three references I alluded to above are all about those who claimed to be serving God but are not. The parable of the wheat and the tares refers to the assembly of believers. Tares look just like wheat, but they produce no fruit.

        Peregrin I think is inadvertently illustrating very well the words of Jesus, “by their fruits you shall know them.” The way I see it, the fruit (result) of the words of these people will be the judgement and condemnation by the public of people who are believers but who don’t speak and behave in this way. Peregrin and others obviously lump them all together because they supposedly all live by the same book.

        Some of the great villains of history were atheists. Should the Peregrins of this world and the books they read be blamed for the destruction wrought on mankind by the folly of other atheists?

        1. Peregrin Wood says:

          Dave, I don’t think you’re properly distinguishing my descriptions of Christianity, which is a single system of thought with some variations, and what you perceive to be my opinion about Christians, who are individuals that practice Christianity. I never said anything about — ALL — Christians, or even ALL Alabama Christians.

          So, why are you talking about lumping?

          You’re also failing to distinguish between that status of Christianity as a system of thought and atheism, which is not a system of thought, but rather the rejection of a particular kind of system of thought – theism, of which Christianity is one kind. It isn’t coherent to describe atheism as a single thing, as every human being who has not believed in gods is an atheist. There’s no central book or ideology to atheism, no routine of practice, no common history, no one who has any authority over atheists, no organization that makes rules about who is an atheists and what atheists have to do.

          Of course there have been wicked atheists. But then, very few atheists would claim that being an atheist leads to moral salvation. Such a claim of moral superiority for Christians has been central throughout the history of Christianity.

          I never blamed YOU, Dave, for what the Alabama Christians are doing, even though I know you’re a Christian.

          I do state that Christianity is not a religion of peace and compassion. That much is clearly demonstrated by what large numbers of Christians have done throughout the history of Christianity. When there are peaceful and compassionate Christians, I don’t see any evidence that their peace and compassion exists because of their Christianity. If being Christian made people peaceful and compassionate, then the Christians of Alabama wouldn’t be threatening Amanda Scott with death, assault or deportation. Christianity isn’t helping those people become morally decent. The religion is giving them a justification for being ugly.

          But, if you can’t see that, and get angry that I’m pointing out the shameful behavior of a large number of Christians, and want to call me a lumper, and make me out to be the bad guy, the nasty atheist who can’t recognize that Christianity is a beautiful, wonderful thing, and that the ugly things Christians do in the name of Christianity don’t count against Christianity, go for it, Dave. Pick that mote out of my eye. I’m standing still. Go on, and reach out and take it.

          1. Dave says:

            Good points about atheism. In a way it is apples and oranges I have compared, albeit apples and oranges are as ripe (pun intended) for comparison as any two things I know of. You make a good case here for taking individuals on their own merits regardless of their belief or unbelief and I’m listening.

            I make no claims to moral superiority, though I am aware that faith will draw lines in the sand where none exist as far as others are concerned. Some see my refusal to go quite as far as they might in certain directions as a holier than thou thing, but ain’t nuttin I can do about that; I’m fine with my choices and their choices aren’t really relevant to me.

            I got the lumper thing from the “if the Christian God is all about love yada yada” which question does not make any distinctions in whose God is who. One thing a Christian believer will learn to get used to is non-believers coming up with the “Bible Verse of the Day” that you’re not living up to.

            I think you make the point that peace and compassion don’t necessarily follow “Christian.” I heartily concur. Perhaps I try to make the case for “Christian” following peace and compassion. It is interesting to me that New Testament believers did not call themselves Christians, and the term was alien to them until the one time mentioned in their writings (Acts) when they were called that by the Greek citizens to differentiate what cult they belonged to.

            I care about the shameful behaviour of “Christians” and I don’t care that you point it out, and the ugly things done in the name of Christianity do indeed count against Christianity, but only in this way: that someone taking Peregrin Wood’s checkbook, for example, and writing bogus checks all over town in Peregrin’s name might have an effect on Peregrin’s reputation, and those who don’t know Peregrin will always hesitate to take anything with his name on it, but those who believe Peregrin to be a man of good will and integrity will not be fazed by the incident of the bogus checks and will continue to show him good will in return.

            Popes, Inquisitors and certain Alabamians may have written checks on God’s account and signed God’s name to them, but according to the New Testament he will deal with them in His own way and time.

  5. Peregrin Wood says:

    Dave, the overwhelming majority of comments from Christians on the WKRG page were strongly negative, telling Amanda Scott and other atheists that they have no right to expect equality under the law, and often suggesting further deprivations.

    Bill, you can SAY that “God is love”, but you ought to know that some of the Alabama Christians used the same phrase, right before they explained that the United States is a Christian nation, and that people who don’t accept that have no place in this country and will burn in Hell. For example, see Ruth McKinley of Thomasville, Alabama in the article above.

    If the Christian god is all about love, how come Christianity has spent so much time trying to seize governments to control people’s lives through force and coercion? Is it loving force and coercion? There’s a whole lotta not very loving behavior from that god of yours in that holy book your religion keeps referring back to.

    Christianity has its roots in the Old Testament and New Testament, Dave, as is attested to by the common Christian practice of citing the Old Testament as an excuse for reprehensible behavior.

    Please, explain to me how, if Christianity is a force for love and compassion, how come it so commonly leads to hateful and uncompassionate behavior?

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