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Have St. Cloud Crime Rates Doubled Since Somalis Came to Town? The Answer Rhymes with Heck, Snow.

Steve Platy writes in response to an article showing that crime hasn’t worsened in Minneapolis since Somalis’ arrival:

“What you would find is that Minneapolis did indeed, still experience a moderate drop in crime between 200 and 2012.

But that is only half-relevant to this article because they primary Somali refugee community is in St Cloud. Even at the time covered in your statistics, it’s common knowledge that more than 1.4% of the population was Somali then. However, as acknowledged by Somali community activists/advocates, they believe the area has over 20,000 now, and they call that a conservative estimate…

“Please look at today, not 11 years ago. And look at the correct city. If you did, you’d see that crime in St Cloud, host of “Little Mogadishu,” has more than doubled in almost all categories, the sharp increase starting in 2001. Now be a good investigator and look for the correlation between what happened in 2001 in St Cloud, and draw a logical conclusion that’s not based on the narrative that you are premeditatedly hoping to see.

First off, Minneapolis actually is the home to the largest Somali population in the United States, not St. Cloud. See also the U.S. Census bureau’s declaration on the subject: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2014/acs/acsbr12-16.pdf.  So Minneapolis is the most relevant city to study for crime rates.

Second, let’s look at St. Cloud.  Have crime rates in St. Cloud doubled since Somalis began to immigrate to the city?  Let’s look at violent crime rates and property crime rates using Uniform Crime Reports data from the FBI’s Crime in the United States.  Unfortunately, since Minnesota was not in compliance with the FBI’s standards in reporting violent crimes, violent crime data is missing from 2005 to 2012.  Fortunately, 2013 data is in that allows for the calculation of violent and property crime rates again.  So let’s see what happened in St. Cloud, to which Somali immigration began in 2001.  Here are the trends:

Chart: St. Cloud Minnesota Property Crime Rate Trends
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Neither the property crime rate nor the violent crime rate has done anything like doubling since the arrival of Somali immigrants.  The 2013 violent crime rate levels are roughly consistent with patterns in St. Cloud in the decade before Somali immigration to St. Cloud began, and 2013 property crime rate levels represent a decrease from the decade before Somali immigration.

8 thoughts on “Have St. Cloud Crime Rates Doubled Since Somalis Came to Town? The Answer Rhymes with Heck, Snow.”

  1. Mirage says:

    That’s because Somalis don’t live in St. Cloud MN. They live in Waite Park MN which is a small town next to St. Cloud MN. Check out the crime statics in Waite Park MN and you will see the true story!!!

    1. Jim Cook says:

      Not according to this article: http://www.citypages.com/news/st-cloud-is-the-worst-place-in-minnesota-to-be-somali-7976833

      But by all means, yes, do check out the crime statistics in Waite Park. According to the FBI’s Crime In the United States report for 2014 (the most recent available), the rate of violent crime in Waite Park (284.9 violent crimes per 100,000 population) is lower than that in St. Cloud (393.3 violent crimes per 100,000 population).

  2. Mary Bradley says:

    And, tell me was the crime that was just committed a Islamic immigrant? LOL. Please, people, stop referring Islam to a race. It is NOT a race

  3. Villainous says:

    Here’s the problem. While crime rates have fallen slightly (or barely risen) in this town since the 90s, the reality is that crime of all sorts took a precipitous drop on average across the United States. Having property crimes stay stagnant and violent crimes rise since the 90s shows that Somali immigrants *have* had an effect on the crime rate, in that it has remained at the high level of the mid-late 90s, and not experienced the drop off that many cities have enjoyed.

    1. J Clifford says:

      So, what you’re saying is that because crime rates got lower in St. Cloud after the Somali refugees settled there legally, the Somalis are responsible for crime in St. Cloud.

      You’re *guessing*, without evidence, that the crime rate in St. Cloud would be even lower if there weren’t any Somalis in St. Cloud, because you’re experiencing something called cognitive dissonance.

      On the one hand, you have a racist, xenophobic belief that Africans and foreigners generally are dangerous people who cause crime. On the other hand, the facts show that the arrival of African foreigners in your town has NOT resulted in a higher crime rate. You can’t handle the challenge of facts to your fundamental beliefs, and so you make up an elaborate story about how, in a mythical alternate reality, St. Cloud would be even more crime free if it weren’t for the Somali refugees.

      Dream on, “Villainous”. The anti-Trump majority understands that we need to look at facts before arriving at beliefs, rather than the other way around.

      I would find it amusing that so many people are arriving at Irregular Times in their desperate search for facts to justify their hatred of refugees, finding here instead evidence that refugees are actually not any more harmful than any other group in America. I would find that amusing, if it wasn’t for the fact that this hateful behavior represents the attitude of those now in power in Washington D.C.

    2. Jim Cook says:

      No, it does not.

  4. Fuckthegovernmentanfuckantifa says:

    Go walk around saint cloud state university at night…gangs of somalis jumping and robbing students all damn day. Infact go to stearns county jail roster and skim thru..u will see a shit load of somali names in there.

    1. J Clifford says:

      Could you clarify? There are gangs of Somali immigrants committing violent crimes “at night” “all damn day”?

      I’m having some chronological difficulties with this claim.

      Let’s fact check this with a search of articles from newspapers, TV stations, and other journalistic sources through Google News: There are NO stories in their database describing any attacks at St. Cloud University, much less Somali gangs “jumping and robbing students all damn day”.

      No St. Cloud violent crime spree

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