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It is theorized that I am the Dalai Lama

“It is theorized that the coconut provides all of the required natural properties for survival.”

“It is theorized” is such a useful phrase.  A theory is nothing more than a story, either validated by data… or not.  I’m guessing that the makers of this cultured coconut milk are working on the not end of the spectrum.  Why, their own in-house marketers could be the theorists.  All they have to do is come up with a story, and whoosh! Bang!  It’s a theory!  Queen Elizabeth has developed a successful cold fusion prototype? It’s a theory!  Smoking improves the thickness of the toenails?  Certainly a hypothesis!
Clearly, further research is needed.

16 thoughts on “It is theorized that I am the Dalai Lama”

  1. ella says:

    I learned something today. An hypothesis leads to “further study or discussion”. A theory on, the other hand, is an idea, or several, that is possibly true – but it’s not proven…that relate to a particular subject. So, is a theory not supposed to lead to “further discussion? Or is it just a set of ideas that are ignored, or used to influence people who don’t know any better? Like coconut milk is king of foods.

    1) Hypothesis: an idea or theory that is not proven but that leads to further study or discussion

    2) Theory: an idea or set of ideas that is intended to explain facts or events

    : an idea that is suggested or presented as possibly true but that is not known or proven to be true

    : the general principles or ideas that relate to a particular subject

    1. Jim Cook says:

      A theory can be empirically substantiated and still be a theory, Ella. Like the theory of gravity, or cell theory, or germ theory, or the theory of evolution. The difference between a hypothesis and a theory is that a theory is a general model for how a phenomenon works. A hypothesis is a particular prediction about what will be observed that is based in some theoretical model.

      1. ella says:

        So, an hypothesis needs no empirical evidence, just a consideration? Such as: There are three flowers of the same species, planted side by side, but each bloomed different color. At least five seeds from one of the flowers will produce a different bloom color from the parent.

        But a Theory would be: Of the 3 flowers, two had at least five seeds that produced a different color bloom from the parent. Hence those flowers will also have have at least five seeds that produce a different color bloom from the parent, if planted in the same arrangement.

        And if that theoretical test fails, then what a new hypothesis? When a theory fails to produce a predictable outcome, it ceases to be a theory. When an hypothesis fails to produce a predictable outcome it is scrapped – or begin again. Theories do run to the end of predictable outcomes often enough. Or can be explained in a different manner. Isn’t that discussion?

        1. Leroy says:


          As defined by Google…

          Hypothesis: (noun)

          – a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

          – (in “PHILOSOPHY”) a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth.

          Theory: (noun)

          – a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

          – a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based.

          – an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.

          Between washcloths and cultured coconut cups and other postings, not sure about things anymore.

          I’ve never had “cultured” coconut milk, but consume coconut milk and coconut oil daily.

          I don’t know about their health benefits, I just like their taste and utilize them as part of a Low Carb High Fat diet (which was adopted last year or so as the “official recommended diet” of Sweden, with their version of FDA specifically no longer recommending any type of low fat or high carb diet).

          There’s a website called the Diet Doctor which has a lot of information of the LCHF diet.

          One of the things that I do know is that a lot of studies on coconut oil (that showed no benefit or even that coconut oil was “harmful” were flawed in that the “researchers” used partially hydrogenated coconut oil – thereby turning it, like any oil so hydrogenated, into a trans fatty acid which is NOT good).

          1. Leroy says:

            From a NYT article:

            “Two groups have helped give coconut oil its sparkly new makeover. One is made up of scientists, many of whom are backtracking on the worst accusations against coconut oil…

            According to Thomas Brenna, a professor of nutritional sciences at Cornell University who has extensively reviewed the literature on coconut oil, a considerable part of its stigma can be traced to one major factor.

            ‘Most of the studies involving coconut oil were done with partially hydrogenated coconut oil, which researchers used because they needed to [intentionally, in order to falsely attack saturated fats] raise the cholesterol levels of their rabbits in order to collect certain data,’ Dr. Brenna said. ‘Virgin coconut oil, which has not been chemically treated, is a different thing in terms of a health risk perspective’…

            Partial hydrogenation creates dreaded trans fats. It also destroys many of the good essential fatty acids, antioxidants and other positive components present in virgin coconut oil. And while it’s true that most of the fats in virgin coconut oil are saturated, opinions are changing on whether saturated fats are the arterial villains they were made out to be…”

            Now, listen to this:

            “The new [American] federal Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommend that no more than 10 percent of total dietary calories a day come from saturated fat. For a 2,000-calorie diet, that’s about 20 grams.”

            I think that (like with a great many things) that I would trust the Swedish nutritional authorities over the American bought-and-paid for FDA!

            See (in detail):


          2. Leroy says:

            Actually, it seems as if the ones attacking coconut oil are either the fanatically low fat crowd or supporters of the FDA and / or “traditional” Western Medicine (i.e., as controlled by BigAgriculture and BigPharma).


          3. Leroy says:

            As to articles with listed research and studies…


          4. Leroy says:

            So, gosh, maybe this health benefit of coconut milk (which contains an extremely large amount of coconut oil) does have some noticeable health benefits beyond just a theory.

            But as to CULTURED coconut milk having sufficient nutrients for human survival?


            That’s clearly a marketing scheme. I know that fermentation of foods generally causes an increase in health benefits (unless it is a high carb product even after fermentation… fermentation actually reduces the carb content in foods, for example Kefir, fermented milk, is much lower in carbs than regular milk), but I’m not sure about this product. It can be fermented but also have quite a bit of sugar added to it (like with Kefir sold in stores… real Kefir has a decidedly sour taste).

            But in any case, the body has a primary need for protein. Protein is necessary to build / rebuild anything in the body. And certain Amino Acids (essential amino acids) cannot be made in the body and have to be consumed. And there’s no way such a product of this would contain all the essential amino acids nor sufficient complete proteins to do any good (as far as protein requirements).

          5. Jim Cook says:

            Right. That’s my point. Anyone who thinks that you can really get by just on coconuts is… coconuts.

            But this is the approach that’s typically used by the “natural health foods” or “alternative medicine” industry. They sell stuff by making wild claims that haven’t been substantiated, adding a little escape hatch like “it has been hypothesized” or “this information is presented for purposes of discussion and should not be construed as medical advice.”

          6. Leroy says:

            Actually this is more like coconut milk yogurt.

            It is coconut milk “culturalized” with six cultures in a manner identical to yogurt.

            And, like regular yogurt, it doesn’t have any added sugar (which is better than regular yogurt as regular yogurt is made with milk which contains lactose, or milk sugar).


            They did screw it up (slightly!) by adding locusts bean gum, rice starch, and chicory root extract – which all added to its carb count. But not by much. Only 4 grams of carbohydrates per 4 ounce serving (1/2 cup).

            A 4 ounce serving of no fat / low fat yogurt has about 9 grams of carbs per 4-ounce serving. A 4 ounce serving of regular (whole milk) yogurt has about 6 grams of carbs per 4-ounce serving. Greek, or Turkish yogurt made from whole milk has just over 4 grams of carbs per 4-ounce serving (so pretty close to “coconut milk yogurt” – which is what this product is… the difference with Greek yogurt is due to a longer fermentation period and more highly strained).

            The BIG advantage that Greek yogurt has over “coconut milk yogurt” is that whole milk Greek yogurt has 12-13 grams of protein per 4-ounce serving, compared to ZERO for “coconut milk yogurt”. (There goes its “theory” out the window – you’ve got to have the protein).

            In reality one should likely double this as so many people wouldn’t just eat a 1/2 cup serving.

            The particulars of this product were found quite quickly online.


            Not sure if anyone sells it around here or not. I have the devil of a time in finding whole milk Greek yogurt to add to my High Fat/ Moderately High Protein / Very Low Carb “smoothie” shakes. EVERYBODY sells the low fat / non fat versions, but only one store sells the full fat version (and they can’t keep it in stock – though always have the other stuff in stock)… personally I think I’ll stick to a base of regular coconut milk and heavy cream with – when able – some added Greek yogurt along with the sugar free high protein Whey Protein powder.

          7. ella says:

            Those were more complete definitions, thank you. Yes, the hydrogenated (trans fatty) is devastating to some of us. But then, I don’t subscribe to the high fat diet anyway, cannot. Just recently I have tried to add carbohydrates and it seems to agree with me now. Love the smell of coconut, but Vanilla, mixed with coconut makes an aroma that is irresistible. Flavoring can be so much fun! Without the possible side effects of ingesting the actual food.

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