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  1. Bruce H says:

    Carnival barker

    1. Korky Day says:

      Jim Cook, I think that above I have proven your libel on Trump being against immigration, which he is not.
      It wasn’t a slip of your tongue. You meant to defame him.

      You then wrote,
      ‘On surveillance, in addition to the Muslim registry idea and the notion of putting mosques under surveillance, Donald Trump this week declared flatly that regarding NSA unwarranted surveillance activity, he would “err on the side of security.” ‘

      Again, the government can legally watch anyone, with cause, whether in a mosque or not.
      If Trump thought the surveillance were ‘unwarranted’, then obviously he’d be against it.
      He’s for it when he thinks it IS warranted. Nothing necessarily illegal or bad there.

      As far as registering Moslems, I’ve heard or seen nothing from Trump that would be illegal. Only vague ideas about the government keeping records.

      When he exaggerates, it makes him look bad, to some extent.
      When you exaggerate what he says, it can make you look worse, because we know your motives are to hurt his candidacy.
      I want to hurt his candidacy in comparison to better candidates, and to help his candidacy in comparison to worse candidates.
      That is, fairly.

    2. Korky Day says:

      Sorry I put my last comment in the wrong place. It’s confusing how to do it right.

  2. Korky Day says:

    This grossly underestimates Trump, which is why such criticism helps him rather than hurts him.

    I challenge anyone to tell me, for instance, why spending his own money on his campaign is bad, if you can.

    1. Leroy says:

      http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-fec-fundraising-214838

      Sorry for the multiple posts, but supposedly (according to what Jon told me in a post) if a post has more than one link, then it gets cancelled as Spam.

    2. Leroy says:

      http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-donors-outspend-billionaire-candidate-campaign-n445646

      Plus then there’s all that free campaign advertising that he gets from the media that he (supposedly) despises.

  3. Leroy says:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/donald-trump-fec-fundraising-214838

    Sorry for the multiple posts, but supposedly (according to what Jon told me in a post) if a post has more than one link, then it gets cancelled as Spam.

  4. Korky Day says:

    Yes, Leroy, he is accepting donations (average 50$), but still no heavy soliciting, as the others do. I’d prefer he discourage donating on his Web pages, but he’s not perfect.

    His main point remains strongly that he is not beholden to big donors, as are the others, except Bernie Sanders, the Green Party, etc.

  5. Korky Day says:

    If you want more serious discussion of Trump’s pluses and minuses, read Ralph Nader’s and Lewis H. Lapham’s analyses.
    The latter I just bought in Harper’s magazine 2015 November, p. 22.

  6. Nathan Norman says:

    Trump is a Democrat. He supports fag marriage, abortion on demand, progressive tax, and probably engages in incest with his hot daughter. He worships at the altar of the devil Howard Stern who throws transsexual “beauty” pageants where the participants show off their balls, penises and fake tits.

    1. Korky Day says:

      The best way for a Republican to win is by supporting some Democratic causes. And vice versa.
      How else can they win votes from the other side?

      1. Korky Day says:

        I forgot to say that such a ‘moderate’ strategy can make it very hard for them to win nominations in the first place.

        Assuming, though, that Trump is nominated, his ‘Democratic’ policies will help him in November.

  7. Nathan Norman says:

    Trump got a phone call from Bill Clinton right before he announced. The Trumpster gave a fortune to the Clintons and praised them throughout the Clinton presidency. He’s a loyal supporter. He sucks the globalist cocks of Hitlary Clenis.

  8. Korky Day says:

    For jokes even funnier than Nathan Norman’s (above), see

    http://jokes4us.com/celebrityjokes/donaldtrumpjokes.html

  9. Korky Day says:

    Trump is smart, Nathan Norman.

    Like your typical presidential winner, he talks like a true believer in his party before being nominated.

    After securing the nomination, he’ll broaden his appeal to all likely voters.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      I thought Trump’s weaknesses were so clearly evident that they did not need to be enumerated. On policy he is a pro-torture, unconstitutional-surveillance, anti-immigrant, pro-censorship racist and religious biogot who plans to deport American babies, who disdains facts, who contradicts and insults empirical reality.

      But even more fundamentally than that, he is an aggressive narcissist who will do anything for the attention of the country, no matter what the costs to the country. This mad clown deserves no more than six seconds of attention.

  10. Korky Day says:

    Jim Cook, if he were all that, he’d get no support. You believe the libel. Listen more carefully. I’m not saying he’s good or that I like him (though I do a little bit), but that underestimating him is a bad mistake by his opponents.

    For instance, his stance on immigrants is little different than that of Cesar Chavez: for controlled immigration and against uncontrolled.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      I believe them because I’ve seen them. Which one of those claims would you say is wrong?

      1. Korky Day says:

        Donald Trump is not against immigration, he’s against illegal immigration.

        He doesn’t plan to deport anyone he considers a USA citizen. He claims that legal opinions say that a person born to illegal immigrants is not a citizen.

        He doesn’t seem to me to be an ‘aggressive narcissist’ any more than any of the other well-known candidates, with the possible exception of Bernie Sanders.

        About all of your other accusations I haven’t heard any solid foundation, though I’ve listened to hours of his speeches and interviews. I don’t know where you got those.

        I don’t count it as his policy if he answers with a vague ‘We’ll take care of that’, etc. when someone asks him about torture, censoring, etc.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          Undocumented immigration is a form of immigration. It’s what many of most Americans’ ancestors did.

          He does plan to deport American babies. What he in his deluded mind considers it to be is not relevant.

          Whether you consider that to be ok or not is up to you.

          1. Korky Day says:

            You said he was against immigration, not just one kind of immigration.

            So you have proven me right.

            If you are for open borders, as was the case centuries ago, then say so, but don’t libel Trump.
            I defend him out of fairness, not out of alliance. And because if you cannot defeat him on his real qualities and policies, you will lose because the public is very much impressed with him.

          2. Jim Cook says:

            I’m responding to your specific statement about deportation, which references my statement about deportation. I’m not libeling.

            If the public is very much impressed with him, then there is something very much wrong with the public.

          3. Korky Day says:

            The Republican Party is proof of the stupidity of the public. For them, Trump is a big step up.

    2. Jim Cook says:

      A claim of libel requires proof not only that the charges are malicious but that they are untrue. But there’s documentation to substantiate the claims, Korky. We’ve already talked about immigration and torture. On surveillance, in addition to the Muslim registry idea and the notion of putting mosques under surveillance, Donald Trump this week declared flatly that regarding NSA unwarranted surveillance activity, he would “err on the side of security.” Source: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/261486-trump-would-err-on-side-of-security-in-nsa-debate.

    3. Jim Cook says:

      Korky Day, you called it “libel” that Donald Trump is pro-censorship.

      It’s not libel. Here’s his latest pro-censorship, anti-freedom profundity:

      “We have kids watching the Internet and they want to be masterminds. We’re losing a lot of people because of the Internet. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what’s happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way…. Somebody will say, ‘Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech. These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people.”

      Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-bill-gates-shut-internet-article-1.2458815

      I have no idea how any self-respecting Green can support that tripe or, like you, call it “smart.” Donald Trump is so smart? In. his. mind. What in your mind makes this anything close to smart?

      I say it again: Donald Trump is a blowhard and a clown until the moment he gets elected President and gets his fat fingers near the nuclear button. Then this clown becomes the most dangerous man on the planet.

      1. Korky Day says:

        Trump is thinking aloud again.
        He doesn’t like young people from US allies being recruited into being Muslim terrorists.
        So he’s thinking of blocking the recruitment on the Internet.
        Nothing specific, just wondering.
        Communication for the purpose of attacking is an act of war.
        Censoring it is not necessarily bad.

        If you want to help the situation without ‘censorship’, then what’s your alternative for dealing with Muslim terrorists?
        I have some alternatives but I want to know yours, Jim Cook.
        I trust Trump with a nuclear button more than Reagan or the Bushes.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          You assume I believe that the threat of Muslim terrorists in the United States is significant.
          I believe it is insufficiently significant to justify the erosion of liberty and the welcoming spirit embodied in the Statue of Liberty.

          1. Korky Day says:

            Yes, it is significant, Jim Cook. Which means it might continue or even increase.
            Who’s proposing erosion of liberties?
            Trump’s counter-measures could all be done under existing law.

          2. Korky Day says:

            The problem with the Statue of Liberty which welcomed some of my family is that it ignores First National rights (indigenous nations).

            And even if the First Nations had all welcomed immigration, today’s environmental crisis and murderous Muslim imperialism require protection for us.
            My Green Party is based on environmentalism and peace.

  11. Korky Day says:

    Even if you’re totally against Donald Trump, listen to his full speeches on YouTube. Know your ‘enemy’.

    You might get to like parts of him and realize that he’s better than all the other Republicans. And better than Hillary, Obama, and most of the Democrats.
    I vote Green.

  12. Korky Day says:

    Trump’s merchandise site says ‘100% Made in USA’.
    Irregular Times says shirts printed in USA but it seems they are made somewhere else.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      Korky,

      That post was a bit vague in its meaning. Are you saying Irregular Times shirts aren’t made in the United States (which would be news to me), or that Irregular Times is saying that Trump’s merchandise is made somewhere else? Certainly, Donald Trump had a problem with trash-talking Mexico while his clothing was actually made in Mexico: http://www.complex.com/style/2015/08/donald-trump-menswear-line-made-in-mexico

      Jim

      1. Jim Cook says:

        Korky,

        Inspired by your comment, regardless of its meaning, I have checked into our shirt partner, Skreened. Without our knowledge, without our consent, and expressly against a personal agreement into which I personally entered with Skreened’s owner after meeting with him repeatedly in person, Skreened has begun selling shirts made under dubious conditions. Irregular Times’ writers have conferred, immediately closed all shops, and more than this, we will be absolutely be excoriating Skreened in public.

        Thank you for providing the inspiration (inadvertent or not) for me to check in on this.

        See my blog post on the subject:
        http://irregulartimes.com/2015/11/28/today-we-cut-all-ties-with-skreened-heres-why/

  13. Korky Day says:

    You’re welcome, Jim Cook.
    Sorry for my ambiguity.

    I meant that Donald Trump’s claims appeared to be more ethical than yours.

    This still leaves open the possibility that Trump’s claims are false, but given the extreme motive for his enemies to catch him in hypocrisy, I think he’s probably made damn sure that he’s clean on this. Maybe you and Irregular Times could get shirts from the same supplier as Trump uses.

    Watch out, though, because I’ve read that ‘Made in USA’ can ‘legally’ be fraudulent or misleading. In other words, federal law allows that claim on products made in maquiladoras in Mexico and made by Chinese near-slaves in USA colonies such as the Northern Marianas Islands.

    Thanks for your strong efforts to be ethical!

  14. Korky Day says:

    If you want to defeat Trump, criticize him for what he really says and does, not what people twist his words to say.

    I want to defeat him if I can elect a Green or a socialist, but not if the alternative is Hillary.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      Sorry, but I’ve just got to call bullpuckey on the poor-Donald-Trump’s-words-are-being-twisted line you’re using in this thread. On the torture claim alone, Donald Trump is absolutely, crystal clear. Verbatim quote:

      “This morning they asked me a question: would you approve waterboarding? Would I approve waterboarding? Would I approve waterboarding? And I said, let me ask you a question. On the other side they chop off our young people’s heads and they put ’em on a stick. On the other side they build these iron cages, and they’ll put 20 people in them and they drop them in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull them up 15 minutes later. Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I would. You bet your ass. In a heartbeat. In a heartbeat. And I would approve more than that. Don’t kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn’t work. It works. They’re all saying, ‘oh, it has no effect, it,’ I know people that are very, very important people, and they want to be politically correct. And I see some people on television saying /I don’t know if it works,’ and they tell me later on ‘it works.’ It works. Believe me, it works. And you know what? If it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway, for what they’re doing. It works. It works.”

      Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-on-waterboarding-if-it-doesnt-work-they-deserve-it-anyway/

      If you’re cool with torture as an American policy instrument, go vote for Trump.

      But are you really cool with torture as an American policy instrument? I hope not. The Greens and the Democratic Socialists have positions against those things, you know:

      Source: http://www.greenpartywatch.org/2009/04/30/green-party-torture-is-criminal-investigate-prosecute/
      Source: http://www.thesocialist.us/there-is-only-one-way-to-stop-torture/

      1. Korky Day says:

        That’s the first I’ve heard his torture position, with which I could not more strongly disagree.

        To leave Guantanamo Prison open is also torture. Which Democrats would close it? Not Obama, the traitor to his word.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          Not going to defend Obama or Clinton.

          Knowing what you know now, would you vote for pro-torture Trump?

          1. Korky Day says:

            I never said, Jim Cook, that I’d vote for Trump, only that almost everyone else is worse. I’ve been voting Green for decades and see no reason to change.

            If I were a Republican, I’d certainly vote Trump.
            And I want people to take him seriously and not just dismiss him out of hand. That just helps him to win.
            I appreciate your criticism of him on torture, but no one has shown me any evidence that he’s any more racist than 90% of the public.

  15. Korky Day says:

    Much funnier than the bit at the top is this impersonation of candidates by comedians:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWfYc6J-0Q8

  16. Korky Day says:

    Donald Trump’s position on immigration, Jim Cook, is essentially the same as that of Cesar Chavez.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      Cesar Chavez had very parochial interests. He was trying to organize farm workers into a union and saw undocumented immigrants as “scabs” and “wetbacks” (his words) that undermined his position. “Cesar Chavez said” doesn’t make it the right position. In addition, Donald Trump is significantly in favor of taking away the citizenship of American-born babies. Cesar Chavez, to my knowledge, did not hold that position, so your claim is not entirely accurate.

      1. Jim Cook says:

        On Donald Trump’s plan to take away citizenship from American-born babies, see this source: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/08/trump-on-birthright-citizenship/

        1. Korky Day says:

          I stick with Cesar Chavez, as should all good unionists.

          Nevertheless, the First Nations deserve a veto on all immigration until good treaties are made with them.

          The citizenship of children of visitors, tourists, and invaders is not strictly an immigration matter. It’s a citizenship eligibility question. Trump says he has legal opinions on his side.
          Let’s see how the courts rule.

          For fun, suppose a USA fighter pilot is bombing Syria and during the flight over Syria she delivers of her womb a baby. They all land safely. Is the child a Syrian, an anchor baby?

        2. Korky Day says:

          Your link is interesting, but mostly backs up Trump, though he seems to have exaggerated.

          The question remaining is whether the 14th Amendment really is automatic for this.

          Wikipedia 14th Amendment
          2015 12 3:
          ‘These congressional remarks applied to non-citizens lawfully present in the United States, as the problem of unauthorized immigration did not exist in 1866, and some scholars dispute whether the Citizenship Clause applies to unauthorized immigrants. . . .’

  17. Korky Day says:

    Below seems airtight, but I’d like to hear the arguments of those to whom Trump refers.

    Amendment 14, Section 1.

    ‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.’

    Of course, if a small child’s parents are deported, they might prefer to take the child.

  18. Korky Day says:

    How Donald Trump Is Wrong and Right

    by Korky Day, 2015 Dec. 3.

    Trump is wrong in that he:
    1. Supports torture. I hope, though, that he’ll be less tempted to use torture if his international negotiation skills are as good as he claims.
    2. Supports using eminent domain to seize private property to transfer ownership to other private people and businesses.
    3. Advises against drinking alcohol (as do I), but hypocritically owns a winery and a company which makes vodka.
    4. Owns casinos, which, of course, exploit the gullible and weak-willed.
    5. Destroyed old architectural sculptures in order to build Trump Towers, though he’d said he’d save them.
    6. Used influence to force out a neighbour in Scotland.
    7. Shuns super-PACs and funds his own political campaign (both good), but encourages small donations. (A small gripe.)
    8. When asked about global warming, said that it is not as bad as terrorism. He should speak against both.
    9. Says he’d abolish or cut way back on the Environmental Protection Agency.
    10. Supports union-busting laws.
    11. Says that having more of the general public armed with guns will result in fewer gun murders.
    12. Some say he was a cruel landlord.
    13. Sells ice cream (which is bad for us).
    14. Used to own Miss USA and Miss Universe contests.
    15. Wore his jacket while too hot in a hot room during a debate.
    16. Exaggerates and misspeaks a bit.
    17. Ignores or de-emphasizes much that is important. (Maybe, though, he will do better later.)

    Donald Trump sounds very appealing on many issues to a wide spectrum of people, including me, to some extent. They include many more jobs; better health insurance; lowering taxes on most people, not just the rich; border security; lowering student debt; defending Medicare and Social Security; international trade balance; reducing waste; and reducing corruption.
    Donald Trump has many excellent personal qualities and policy positions—much better than all the other Republican candidates and than Hillary Clinton. As far as I can tell, after many hours of research, analysis and discussion, and, other than the above numbered cases, he does NOT seem to be racist, anti-immigrant, sexist, dishonest about his finances, a business failure, insane, silly, insincere, evil, ridiculous, or overly arrogant or selfish, etc.
    Another excellent point is that Trump as a Republican president might be able to accomplish much more good than a Democratic president opposed by Republicans in Congress.

  19. Korky Day says:

    The following article is making me think very hard, though it has many flaws. Thus, I recommend it to you deep thinkers:

    ‘The real reason the media is rising up against Donald Trump’

    Updated by David Roberts on December 1, 2015

    http://www.vox.com/2015/12/1/9828086/donald-trump-media

    1. Korky Day says:

      The main problem with the above article is that I think that Trump lies LESS and more trivially than almost all the other politicians. Most of his alleged lies are rather twisting of what he says. I’d rather criticize him for some of his POLICIES.

      1. J Clifford says:

        Um, no, Korky. When Donald Trump claims that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey held giant parties to celebrate the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, it is not a trivial lie. It is not true that what he says has been twisted. He has lied on this matter over and over again, speaking very clearly about it.

        What matters about that particular lie most of all is not the fact that Donald Trump is being dishonest. What matters is what he is being dishonest about. Donald Trump is lying in order to justify a program of hateful and unconstitutional POLICIES. The lie is just a tool to rile up American xenophobia, so that Trump’s POLICIES won’t receive the critical examination they deserve.

        1. Korky Day says:

          J Clifford, it could be an honest mistake by Donald Trump and others who ‘remember’ seeing the cheering crowds on television. Maybe a television station spliced in pictures of cheering crowds outside the USA. I don’t know.

          I think there were people in the USA cheering in their hearts, even if they weren’t physically cheering. So the point is, are there dangers within the USA’s borders? Are they more likely to call themselves Moslems? Yes. So Trump is right, in a way. I wish he also would say that they are also more likely to call themselves Christians and religious Jews, not atheists like me.

          So what are Trump’s solutions? Mostly good. (See my numbered list in a previous comment.) None unconstitutional, necessarily.

          Focusing on the cheering crowds is a distraction that a good alternative press would avoid. I’ve been an alternative journalist off and on all my life.

          1. J Clifford says:

            Korky, show me the evidence that Muslims are more dangerous than Christians in the USA. Show it to me! You’re making that fact based upon your prejudices.

            Trump’s so-called solutions are not mostly good. They include establishing databases to spy on people on the basis of religion. They include torture without regard to people’s well-being, torture for the sake of torture. They include more costly war. They would include lower wages for working people.

          2. Korky Day says:

            I never said Moslems were more dangerous than Christians. They are all superstitious, illogical, and hence, prone to error.

            ‘establishing databases to spy on people on the basis of religion.’? They have always existed and always will. And there is nothing wrong with them if done ethically. Or do you think ALL record-keeping about one’s enemies are wrong?
            Torture not for the sake of torture, but to get information. Whether that works or not is one of the issues, along with reciprocal protection of our side when captured by their side.

            More costly war? Only if he’s much more evil and stupid than I judge him to be. The smarter and more determined one is, the more they can avoid war. Unless they are controlled by rich interests who want war. Trump is not. Sanders is not.
            Lower wages? Maybe, maybe not. Probably that would be offset by lower taxes on the unrich, less unemployment, and less student debt, which I think Trump could actually pull off.

    2. J Clifford says:

      One problem with this article is its use of “media” as a singular noun. This isn’t just a grammatical quibble on my part, Korky. It reflects a profound misunderstanding of media. Media ARE, because media are plural. There isn’t one single reaction among the media, because media aren’t just one thing. Media players in corporate circles may very well have a tight knit professional circle they play in, but that group is not at all the majority of media that’s reacting to Donald Trump.

      This leads me to my second point: Here at Irregular Times, we are not the “establishment media”. We aren’t gatekeepers. We’re the little guys. We’re used to being ignored by powerful politicians. We aren’t upset about what Donald Trump says because he’s performing some kind of nasty maneuver to undercut our power. We never had much power in the first place.

      We’re upset about what Donald Trump says because of the content of what Donald Trump says, which is violent and cruel and ignorant. We’re upset about what Donald Trump says because it indicates that he has nothing but contempt for the American system of liberty established by the Constitution. It’s about the content. Look at our articles about Donald Trump, and that’s what you’ll see.

      Donald Trump is telling the world that he wants to do disgusting things with the power of the presidency. We think that’s worth paying attention to.

      1. Korky Day says:

        I agree about the kinds of media, J Clifford.
        I like Irregular Times.
        What did you think about the rest of the article?

        Trump ‘violent and cruel and ignorant’? Maybe no more violent than Sanders would be. Neither is a pacifist. Cruel only on his position on torture, which Clinton would not be better than, as far as I can tell. Ignorant? Not so much. And he’s very intelligent and able to learn.
        Have you listened to hours of his speeches and interviews, as I have? Not just the biased news reports.

        You wrote, ‘he has nothing but contempt for the American system of liberty established by the Constitution’. I agree with him!
        The American system is a sham.
        If you don’t agree, I wonder about your ‘alternative’ status.

        1. J Clifford says:

          Korky Bernie Sanders doesn’t encourage his supporters to rough up African-American protesters. Sanders does not say that he will “bomb the shit out of them” as a foreign-policy. There is no comparison between the level of violence that Donald Trump encourages and the restraint and intelligence that Bernie Sanders shows in his foreign-policy.

          1. Korky Day says:

            Thanks, J. Clifford.
            I twice watched that speech during which Donald Trump is falsely alleged to have told his supporters to rough up protesters. The race of any of them seems irrelevant barring evidence that race was a factor. All Trump said for certain was that the protesters had to be expelled.

            I’m sure Sanders would bomb the shit out of places, too, as would I if I were president and if I couldn’t bring peace otherwise. Clinton, too. The more important question is in how many cases would each of them resort to violence. Trump might very well be such a good negotiator that less violence overall would result. I’d prefer Sanders but I’m not certain he’d be better.

  20. Korky Day says:

    Those of you who criticize Trump, which of the establishment candidates (Clinton and all the other Republicans) is better than Trump. I say none. Only Sanders and the Greens and Socialists are better.

  21. Korky Day says:

    The most critical of the 3 biographies I found at Amazon of Trump (not read by me):

    Never Enough: Donald Trump and the Pursuit of Success, by Michael D’Antonio, 2015 September 22; 64% customer score; 32 customer reviews.

  22. Korky Day says:

    Here’s Trump speaking to Republican Jews:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsfVHB3-FB0

    I think he’s actually quite dovish, but first he must secure the nomination.

    1. J Clifford says:

      Which part of “bomb the shit out of them” is dovish, Korky?

      Which part of “I would handle it so tough, you don’t want to hear” is dovish?

      Trump is a raving demagogue.

      1. Korky Day says:

        Trump also says that he’d make peace treaties to avoid war.
        The Democrats and establishment Republicans have had decades to make peace treaties and to bring world peace. They have failed, miserably. We Greens would succeed if we got power and so might Trump. He’s not a raving demagogue, J Clifford, he’s the most complex and interesting politician in my lifetime. Not the best. Not my favourite.
        But intriguing.

        You underestimating him like that shows your own lack of insight.
        All his opponents underestimating him just leads to more success for him.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          Any person who would shut down the border to a fifth of the planet and assign minders to religious minorities is most certainly a raving demagogue.

          1. Korky Day says:

            You’re just proving, Jim Cook, that Trump is much smarter than you.

            If we got a new pope, and he incited all Catholics to go bomb the USA, the USA would bar Catholics.

            Likewise if a new prime minister of Israel said similar.

            The question is where would it all end?
            War or peace?
            Peace if we negotiate well enough to avoid war.

            I think Trump really wants to negotiate peace.
            Did you listen to the link I put above of Trump speaking to Jewish Republicans?
            Listen before you jump on me.

          2. Jim Cook says:

            I don’t care if Trump is politically smart. The politically smart thing to say or do is often the substantively wrong thing to say or do. Bigotry may be fashionable, just like fascism was fashionable in the 1930s. Trump is a fashionable demagogue. He is an evil to be named and resisted.

          3. Korky Day says:

            How many full speeches of his have you listened to?
            Too scared?

          4. Jim Cook says:

            I have. I stand by every word I have written here.

          5. Korky Day says:

            Jim Cook, you answered as if I had asked a yes-or-no question.

          6. Korky Day says:

            You could make a case that Ronald Reagan was a fashionable demogogue, Jim Cook.
            And Bill Clinton.
            Better to stick to specifics instead of name-calling.

            I don’t think that you’ll defeat Trump with name-calling.
            He’s too smart.

          7. Korky Day says:

            When did he mention minders, Jim Cook?
            FBI agents, maybe.
            They’ve been watching suspicious activities for decades. No difference, if done legally.

          8. Jim Cook says:

            Being Muslim is not a suspicious activity. And Donald Trump has said there should be a registration and tracking system for Muslims in this country.

          9. Korky Day says:

            He’s been pretty vague, though. Probably intentionally. Which means he can do it with laws already on the books, probably.

          10. Korky Day says:

            Being Muslim IS a suspicious activity. So is being a Christian, religious Jew, or Nazi. All similar.

            Unlike Baha’is, Quakers, Unitarians, and nudists.

            Suspicious people can be watched. Not bothered, unless they do something more.

  23. Korky Day says:

    Yesterday I heard that Trump wants a temporary halt to Muslims going into the USA.
    Don’t underestimate the intelligence of that move politically.

    I don’t agree with it, but it won’t hurt him politically, as his opponents (wishfully and foolishly) say.
    And since it would be temporary, it wouldn’t be a tragedy.

    He’s very smart, so smart you don’t realize how smart he is.
    So he’ll probably win.
    Because you people who think you’re progressive can’t see how smart he is.
    He tells you he’s smart but you don’t believe him. Believe him.

    1. J Clifford says:

      Korky, what is a fascist Green?

      Who are you really?

      1. Korky Day says:

        Wow, name-calling! What a great way to win an argument!

        Who are YOU really?

      2. Korky Day says:

        Who among you has listened to whole speeches of Trump, as I’ve been suggesting?
        How do you expect to know your enemy if you don’t?
        Too scared?

        By the way, I’m a very friendly guy. Want to talk on the phone with me? I’ll even pay the long distance.

    2. Korky Day says:

      The more I think about it, the more I like the proposed ban. Especially if peace talks are proposed, then lifting the ban can be used for leverage.
      I’ve been reading about Islam. The more I learn, the less I like it.
      It’s patriarchy, crime, and imperialism disguised as a religion. So are Judaism and Christianity, but Islam is pushing war much worse nowadays.
      It’s only good part of Islam so far is that it’s not an alcoholic religion, as is Christianity.

      1. Jim Cook says:

        Then it’s clear why you like Donald Trump so much. Peas in a pod.

        1. Korky Day says:

          So, unlike he and I, you drink?

  24. Korky Day says:

    Trump speaking to Republican Jews:

  25. Korky Day says:

    http://www.wsj.com/article_email/did-trump-just-win-1449604108-lMyQjAxMTA1MjA3ODQwNTg0Wj

    Article in Wall Street Journal about how Muslim exclusion might prove very popular.

  26. Korky Day says:

    None of you seems brave enough to listen to Trump speaking to Jewish Republicans, as I suggested above, and to admit it here. It’s clear, if you listen to it, that compared to those Jews, Trump is a dove.

    He says he’s good at negotiation and that he’d negotiate a peace deal. No one else has succeeded in 67 years, so maybe we should let him try.

  27. Korky Day says:

    Here’s an article very critical of Donald Trump in the usually-smart New Yorker magazine.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-fearful-and-the-frustrated

    Unfortunately, the analysis is very shallow, I think. Not up the New Yorker standards. Too much ‘guilt by association’ and criticism of the working class for wanting change.

  28. Korky Day says:

    Most appealing political personalities
    in the USA since 1960 (in order; not counting their policies)

    Opinion by Korky Day.

    1. Donald Trump.
    2. Martin Luther King.
    3. Ralph Nader.
    4. John Kennedy.
    5. Jesse Jackson Sr.
    6. Robert Kennedy Sr.
    7. Bernie Sanders.
    8. Jimmy Carter.
    9. Cynthia McKinney.
    10. Ronald Reagan.
    11. Bill Clinton.
    12. Jerry Brown.
    13. Ron Paul.
    14. Winona LaDuke.
    15. Kirsten Sinema.

  29. Korky Day says:

    Here’s an interesting (somewhat anti-Trump) article in The Nation.
    I’m not afraid to look at all sides, unlike some of you.
    (Jim Cook? J Clifford?)

    http://www.thenation.com/article/goodbye-middle-class-hello-donald-trump/

    The main problem with the article is that it kind of assumes that Donald Trump is just using voters for his own purposes and will not be a working-class hero. I think he might very well turn out to be one, as Bernie Sanders already is. The article didn’t even MENTION the working class.

  30. Korky Day says:

    I just finished reading Donald Trump’s first book: Trump: The Art of the Deal. Quite inspiring. He mentioned the working class.

    1. Jim Cook says:

      Some other leader I heard of mentioned the working class too: http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Hitler%20Speeches/Hitler%20Speech%201937.01.30.html

      Watch what they DO.

  31. Korky Day says:

    Have you read any of Donald Trump’s books, Jim Cook? Or read any of the intellectual articles about him that I’ve mentioned above? Or listen to him speak to Jews?

  32. Korky Day says:

    In the link below, Michael Steele, former Republican National Committee chair, said what I’ve been saying: That it only helps Donald Trump to dismiss him as someone who has no chance of winning or as someone who ‘everyone knows’ couldn’t be a good president. It’s at the end of the clip of 12+ min. from 2015 October 15.

  33. Korky Day says:

    For those of you who are STILL under-estimating Donald Trump, I recommend this thoughtful, neutral article by Samantha Strayer:

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/01/11/trumps-not-going-anywhere-so-start-taking-him-seriously/

  34. Korky Day says:

    More and more media outlets are taking Donald Trump more seriously than 6 seconds.
    I just bought the 2016 February issue of In These Times magazine. Good articles on Bernie Sanders (pro) and Donald Trump (con).
    The shorter of the 2 articles (the latter) had plenty of deep thoughts. I agree with 3/4 of them.
    I also bought the 2016 February issue of The Progressive, with a cartoon of Trump, Bush, Carson, Rubio, and Cruz on the cover. Haven’t read it yet.

  35. Korky Day says:

    I just read ‘How America Made Donald Trump Unstoppable’
    (‘He’s no ordinary con man. He’s way above average — and the American political system is his easiest mark ever’)
    By Matt Taibbi, February 24, 2016. (Dishonestly in the paper issue of ‘March 10, 2016’!)

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-america-made-donald-trump-unstoppable-20160224#ixzz41GEfXLIW

    Matt Taibbi is hilarious, insightful, novel, intellectual, engaging, and mostly hip. Great writer. More than 6 seconds.

    His main premise that Trump is a con man, though, begs the question of how he can be all bad if he ends up helping ordinary people.
    More like a Robin Hood or a Bernie Sanders.

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