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Don’t Let Trump, Carson, Rubio and Cruz Play Into The Hands Of Terrorists

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has called for widespread discrimination against Muslims. He has declared that, if he is elected President, he will require all Muslims to be registered in a federal government database, to carry identification cards conspicuously declaring their religious status, will use federal law enforcement to shut down mosques, and will give the police authority to presume all American Muslims to be guilty of terrorist conspiracy – to “profile” them. Ben Carson has supported Donald Trump’s plans for a national database of Muslims, and extended them, declaring that Muslim victims of the Islamic State should be denied the rights granted to other refugees. Ted Cruz has expanded Ben Carson’s anti-Muslim plans, proposing that only Christians from certain countries be given the right to enter the United States. Marco Rubio has said that, if he is elected President, he will not only shut down mosques, but will also close down businesses whose owners or customers practice forms of Islam that the federal government’s new religious censors do not approve of.

Last night, Barack Obama offered a rebuttal to these proposals. He advised, “Just as it is the responsibility of Muslims around the world to root out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization, it is the responsibility of all Americans – of every faith – to reject discrimination. It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country. It’s our responsibility to reject proposals that Muslim Americans should somehow be treated differently. Because when we travel down that road, we lose. That kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values plays into the hands of groups like ISIL.”

23 thoughts on “Don’t Let Trump, Carson, Rubio and Cruz Play Into The Hands Of Terrorists”

  1. ella says:

    This is more like what Trump is saying: http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-muslims/2015/11/30/id/703898/

    Cruz is saying things in a calm manner, not inciting anger or fear, and Rubio? He doesn’t say much at all. It will take a while for some to realize that it is beneficial to discuss our problems with peoples of other nations. Some of it originates in our own and it is not the “racism” between ‘blacks’ and ‘whites’, though it is related to the dialog between the two groups. But that is only the background to a much larger issue that allows other to believe that they are only playing into an already existing division in this nation.

  2. John says:

    So what’s the problem? I think all those are a good start. Hopefully it will get to the point where anybody claiming to have a jihad against westerners will be forcefully removed from this country. Why is everybody so afraid to take the necessary steps we need to take to protect ourselves? I don’t get it

    1. Bob says:

      +1

      1. ella says:

        +2 (I am claiming to be a copy cat for sure.) There seems to be an anti American thread running trough the tapestry of some comments. But it is just misplaced sympathy for enemies. Some people actually believe that if you schmooze up to someone, or a group, that hates you and wants to remove you, that they will suddenly like you and be grateful you showed them the error of their ways.

  3. Korky Day says:

    The author doesn’t mention any references to Donald Trump saying those things. The usual twisting of somebody’s words. What he actually says that he’ll do (that I’ve heard) is already legal under existing laws.

  4. Korky Day says:

    There are plenty of real Trump faults. You don’t need to invent them.

    1. Nathan Norman says:

      I see Peregrin Wood sucking Obama’s globalist penis like always. Pergerin “Pecker” Wood is an establishment piece of shit turning this website into the Government Times. Who hired this shitclown?

      1. Korky Day says:

        Nathan Norman, haven’t you noticed that the level of conversation in this group is much higher than yours?

        1. Nathan Norman says:

          Perhaps you have a vocabulary problem. Pecker Wood is a shitclown because he decorates himself with Obama’s shit and performs his show as if he is clever. He’s not clever though, he only stinks.

        2. Nathan Norman says:

          Donald Trump may worship the devil Howard Stern and suck the globalist cocks of Hitlary Clenis but at least he isn’t a shitclown like Pecker Wood.

          1. Dave says:

            Nathan, in employing your earthy vernacular for the purpose of saying something about Peregrin Wood, you end up saying more about yourself. If you like Donald Trump say why.

          2. ella says:

            I believe the point is he does not like Donald Trump. Lower case Democrats use that for of speech, they are exceedingly ignorant, do not have a higher vocabulary. As such they are inarticulate, unable to convey a literate response.

            But given that you are not able to converse in a literate sense, Nathan Norman, and I pity you, please try just to remove the vernacular of your party. That will leave some words that have literate meaning.

          3. Nathan Norman says:

            I am running for president. I don’t have time for complete political correctness.

        3. ella says:

          Still, I came on to give more input as to why I support Donald Trump. In the wake of Obama’s ‘calm down’ speech, Muslims have made so very telling responses. For instance: “”We would never ask any other faith community to stand up and condemn acts of violence committed by people within their groups,…”” http://www.npr.org/2015/12/08/458869660/some-muslim-americans-irritated-by-obamas-call-for-them-to-root-out-extremism

          Remember the there were many Muslims celebrating after the Towers fell? Are you beginning to get the picture? That sentiment has not changed through the years. And yes they did celebrate! Proof of that has been surfacing, little by little. Now there are ‘refugees’ returning to the Syrian region with hordes of recruits from Europe. Got any more questions about letting in ‘refugees’? http://news.yahoo.com/foreign-fighters-in-syria-more-than-double–posing-terror-threat-as-they-begin-to-return-home-024340770.html

          There are obviously a lot of people afraid of Donald Trump, but I more believe it is for personal reasons. What have they done to Trump through the years? Or what are their personal agendas that Trump isn’t listening too, that Hillary is? Who is looking to make a lot of money off of supporting the candidate – but guess what – Trump isn’t taking their money! I believe the most of his enemies are the enemies of the people too. When those particular groups reach out to denigrate ‘someone’, you know that ‘someone’ is doing something right. Look behind the rhetoric of “bad”, find out who is supporting it.

  5. Dave says:

    Peregrin, I was glad to hear Obama weigh in on the security issue, but the quote you posted from his speech last night still doesn’t address the elephant in the room. Saying that “it is the responsibility of Muslims around the world to root out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization” may be a true statement, but irresponsibility is mostly what the world gets. Obama talked about plan “A”, but the country will still be formulating plan “B” by the time elections roll around.

    1. J Clifford says:

      You’re right, Dave, in the sense that America’s Christians have failed to take responsibility for the enthusiasm by the overwhelming majority of Christians in the USA for immense, unnecessary wars, when they claim that Christianity is a religion of peace. Think of all the bloodshed that would never have happened if it wasn’t for the excited war fever of American Christians.

      You bet, Islam doesn’t own up to its problems. Does your religion?

      1. Dave says:

        Anyone in my local church who has a pipe bomb stash and mutters about infidels from time to time, well, we’ll keep a close eye on ’em and we won’t wait for the situation to deteriorate before we turn them in and get them the help they need.

        Muslim communities are generally pretty closely knit, and we should expect the same from them but I’m not holding my breath.

        Also, Christianity is not a religion of peace in the context you use. I and most Christians I know understand Christianity to be about inner peace. Immense, unnecessary wars will happen with or without us. The Christians you say are enthusiastic about wars have a very vocal and visible counterpart in other Christians who are not. I don’t see this in the Muslim community aside from token tsk tsking from CAIR.

        1. Jim Cook says:

          Then you need to look harder. The voices are there. Meet and speak with some of the actual 1.6 billion Muslims around the globe. See Muslims for Peace for a start: http://muslims4peace.org/about-us/mission-statement/

  6. ella says:

    And, as usual, I cannot spell. Although I do better in summer when it isn’t so cold.

  7. Korky Day says:

    How do we avoid the problems with immigrants that Europe is having?
    Trump is the only one trying to really open up the debate. Better than even my own Green Party and much better than the Democrats.

  8. Leroy says:

    I wonder how “we” do it in Canada? How does CANADA deal with the Muslim immigration problem?

    I believe that those of us who fled Canada for the United States (for such cowardly reasons yet) have a MANDATE to tell Canada how to deal with their immigration problem (while always claiming it to be “our” problem).

    And we should also emphasize to Canadians what politicians they should focus on and what their elections are really about.

    There’s a guy, Kirk, from good old Righetti High School (Class of 1966) who did a couple years at Riverside City College before headlining for Canada and lived in B. C. primarily for over 45 years now. He is usually up on telling Americans what their political policies should be and who their political candidates should be (while NEVER mentioning how either gets handled in Canada…. and isn’t legally registered to vote even anywhere in the U. S. of A.).

    It would be interesting to have a psychiatrist explain his fascination with his public display of this country’s policies and laws – while NEVER discussing those of Canada.

    Very weird.

    But then good old couchsurfing, foreskin advocating, nudism practicing Kirk IS very weird!

    1. Leroy says:

      And the thing is that Canada has such fascinating elections, especially the 2015 Federal election.

      The Liberal Party, led by Justin Trudeau, won 184 seats, allowing it to form a majority government with Trudeau becoming the next Prime Minister. Trudeau and the rest of his cabinet were sworn in on November 4, 2015.

      The Conservative Party, led by incumbent Prime Minister Stephen Harper, won only 99 seats, becoming the Official Opposition after nine years on the government benches.

      The New Democratic Party (also pretty liberal) led by Thomas Mulcair, won 44 seats, becoming the third-largest party in the House of Commons, after having formed the Official Opposition following the 2011 election.

      Minor parties won 11 seats: the Bloc Québécois won 10 seats and the Green Party one seat.

      Now THAT is something to be talking up!

      And what would be really interesting is to compare Prime Minister Trudeau’s policies (especially with a liberal majority of Parliment) compares to, oh, sat, Donald Trump and his policies.

      Now THAT would be worthy.

      1. Leroy says:

        This, for example, was an excellent article:

        http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trudeau-compares-harpers-muslim-immigration-policy-to-jews-in-second-world-war/article23379275/

        The date of this speech (“Trudeau slams Tories for terror rhetoric”) was in March, 2015, well before the election, but clearly spelled out Trudeau’s position on this matter. (Tories, by the way, are simply CONSERVATIVES, as in Britain – and in the United States during the Revolutionary War where the colonialists seeking independence were the leftwing Revolutionaries while the colonialists seeking to remain with Britain were the conservative Tories).

        Anyway…

        Justin Trudeau is accusing the Conservative government of adopting immigration policies toward Muslims akin to the Second World War policies restricting Jews’ entry into Canada.

        His harsh criticism was part of his speech, “Canadian Liberty and the Politics of Fear,” which he delivered Monday night in Toronto to about 500 McGill University alumni.

        “So we should all shudder to hear the same rhetoric that led to a ‘none is too many’ immigration policy toward Jews in the ’30s and ’40s being used today, to raise fears against Muslims today,” he said.

        The “none is too many” reference is to the title of the book by Irving Abella and Harold Troper. It was written several decades ago and argues that Canada was one of the most resistant countries in the Western world to saving Jews from Europe.

        His linking of the plight of Jews then to Muslims now forms part of his attack on the federal Conservatives for distorting the rights and freedoms of Canadians.

        The remarks come just a month after he announced his support for the most sweeping changes to security legislation since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and as MPs prepare for three days of hearings this week on the Conservatives’ new legislation – Bill C-51, also known as the Anti-Terrorism Act (2015). Critics have condemned it for restricting Canadians’ freedoms. It will strengthen the powers of the RCMP and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service and criminalize the promotion of terrorism.

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