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I just finished listening to a radio segment about Salvia Divinorum, an herb from the sage family that is legal to procure and that is apparently hallucinogenic in nature. I’ve never taken it, but am very curious.

Has anyone here taken Salvia Divinorum, or does anyone here know someone who has? I’d be really interested to hear about your experiences with the herb, and to read your recommendations regarding it.

Thanks.

Date: April 17, 2006

Author: Jim

Categories: general, mysteries

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nameyourpoison

in February 17th, 2007 @ 19:59

the first time i smoked salvia it was out of a waterpipe with plain leaf in the woods, man what a trippy experience, i concur with everyone who says this drug is not for the high but for mind expansion, WARNING this drug is nothing like magic mushrooms, acid, peyote or whatever phycadelics you may have heard, but as long as you are willing to accept the messages and symbols you will most defenetly recieve (as long as you smoke it the correct way) you are ready, if you have doubts or even the smallest of suspicions then it is possible to have the worst trip of you lifetime, my advice to any new users DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT TRYING SALVIA UNTIL YOU ARE 100% READY

i recieved some 60x salvia and some salvia tincture in the mail today and i will add another comment about my experience, im not quite sure how long the effects of 60x salvia last so if you have an idea then please let me know and im tired of people getting the extracts wrong, its plain leaf, 5x, 10x, 15x, 20x, 40x, 60x, 80x, and finally 100x
Anonymous

in February 26th, 2007 @ 00:51

I grew up with religion in the home. Never could buy into it. Went to the school 19 years. The Material world started to win its place in my life. There was so much physical proof here how can i argue for spiritual. Been broke, cold, and hungry my whole life. then i hit the SALVIA. NOW I AM SPIRITUAL. I dont care what you wanna believe in. Stalin (material), medicine(material), religion(spiritual), Yoga(spiritual), The ARts which are both spiritual and material. All these things make up your energy. And whatever your energy consist of is what you will become. All this may seem like a bunch of bs but i have never felt so inspired to write and let my voice out than ever before. It’s as if that salvia hit showed me how small i was in this world and that i am indeeed under some sort of god and my mission is too become my own god. This world is fake my friends. Its full of clowns.

When i took one hit of 5x extract my friend i became part of the earth. for one second i was seeing far beyond reality. It was weird i saw a tunnel then its as i was stuck half ways. Yes half ways. Between reality and the subconcious. I think i was fighting it and my body and mind were so excited and confused that they became ingaged in a struggle. All of my visions were turning in a weird chain link effect and i had all these people standing next to me also on the ride turning. I was scared it felt as if the world was gonna end. Actually the world did end. I came back. Then I was back here.
The only thing i must say is approach it like a king and submit to it. It will dominate you. What I mean is your physical body will never beat your spiritual. Just take the ride and dont fight anything, you will see what your mind and energies in the air want you to see. I recommend meditating right before using.
dr.shakes

in April 13th, 2007 @ 22:20

Salvia leads to the truth about us. It’s scary and sad, but liberating at the same time. If only we can remember those trips we all took. She is a very powerfull, intelligent and beautifull, but also unfaithfull and beyond our control.
You should always have a sitter, and have i strongly suggest to tape it on camera. It isnt gonna be pretty, but it will trigger important memories for you when u come back.

Speakeing of triggers, check this one out!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7081336908972915425&q=pink+adicolor

cant wait to hear what u have to say!!!!
Anonymous

in May 7th, 2007 @ 03:58

I’ve tried that stuff before, quite interesting to say the least. Very short lived, however. I smoked some mixed with pot once with some friends, and literall thought i was IN super mario brothers. I could see the pipes, and vine creatures and everything. My friend thought he was a DVD on a shelf and wanted people to pick him up and watch him….

pretty potent for legal stuff..but VERY short lived..high only lasted a matter of minutes
anonymous

in May 24th, 2007 @ 03:20

i did salvia 40x bout 2 months ago and it was mad stuff ,then yesterday i was smokin hash and i got a flash back and it was exactly the same effect of the 40x but it lasted for bout 5 hours ,it was crazy , but i got a bad trip and thought i would never come out of it .i dnt no bout flashbacks from it but i read it can give u a flashback in some cases????
another anonymous

in May 24th, 2007 @ 23:00

They used to cut hash with heroin, especially in Europe; people would get visual, auditory, and time distortion hallucination from it.
vito

in May 27th, 2007 @ 23:59

I ‘ve tried salvia before it is a very special thing it is
no way like lsd or shrooms the time the trip last is similar to dmt
but much more intresting I’d recomend it if you want to recheck your
life and every thing in it
holy sh*t -

in July 2nd, 2007 @ 21:19

I just wanted to get high.

I was at local head shop picking up some whip its (nitrous oxide, laughing gas)on my way out , the clerk said try this and gave me A free gram of 13X (they know well there). He said it was more intense than lsd. I said yeeeahh right , cause I tried lsd and it was crazy. I picked up a pint of whiskey on my way home. I got home did three boxes of whips it and slammed the whole pint in two hours.

I then noticed the little tiny bag with a 13X written on it in black marker.I was all alone no sitter. Didnt even know that I should of had a sitter. didnt even know what the little baggie contained or what is was called ( am I dumb or whaT?). I used to smoke weed and I had a glass pipe sitting in the drawer. I put the whole gram of SD in the pipe and hit it super hard and hot.

I didnt know where or who I was or what had happened I didnt know I has smoked something. I saw what looked like falling dominos out in front of me. as they fell they got nearer. When they got up to me. I felt it slap me on the side of my head/face and I fell down out my chair (got lucky nothing was there but a pile of dirty clothes). I thought someone mean was next to me running the trip. I just wanted it to end.I felt like a wheel in my head was running me over and squishing my soul out. I thought someone else gets my body now. I thought I was dying. I have no idea how long it lasted. I almost called 911. I crawled to my neighbors window and cried out “I think I really hurt myself.”. I thought something in my brain was seriously breaking as if my brain cells were exploding _ it was probably the lady not really my cells ???

Maybee its true, I was depressed and slightly suicidal when I did it. Dont do it for a get high or feel good- I did and It scared the turds out me. I value and respect life and death a whole diffrent way. thanks to SD. I think every drunk(maybee – im no DOCtor) should be barely or gently conned into it as a fun party drug and told to take the biggest hit you can and hold for as long as you – I was told and did. LOL i laugh now – not then. I may never do another drug or drink again. Im scared. life is to precious.

I have been in AA (aloholics ANon) For years. I have been sober for years off and on. I think that I am done playing the mad chemist with my mind and body as the medium for experiment. If you like AA see orange-papers.org for the truth. AA can be good. I go there to meet people that value not drinking and using chemicals. There steps are a farse and there main text extremely outdated. continually proven to be ineffective and even dangerous. Guilt inducing and utter helplessness. which only magic can solve (god)I dont do god its too violent a concept – beliefs need defending. Relationships with humans I think is the answer to all my spiritual and chemical problems.

Do I regrett doing it? NO
would I do it again – F*ck no.
Should you have sitter or be in safe padded room or tied safely – probably.

Tx
for hearing me.
BE safe
Crystal

in July 9th, 2007 @ 13:57

Save Salvia in Illinoisâ€“Save Civil Liberties
by Crystal @ 1:50 pm. Edit This Filed under general, religion, ethics, legislation, liberty, politics, alternative parties, activism, Outrages, Be Afraid, Conspiracies

Help save Salvia in Illinois, Time is running out fast!!! Email our Governor or better yet fax, if you have a fax machine

If Fax: Address Fax to Governor Rod Blagojevich, subject line: Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill. Governor at the following fax numbers: 217-524-6262 or 312-814-4862

This is what to fax or email the Governor: (COPY AND PASTE THE BELOW)

Governor Rod Blagojevich: Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill.

Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill. Salvia is not a plant that should be considered for this bill. If you make this plant illegal not only will you be eliminating 100,000 of dollars a year in tax revenue to the state of Illinois, you will be shutting down businesses and putting people out of work. Salvia is currently used in shaman rituals, religious ceremonies and for healing both by lisc. and holistic doctors and practitioners. The plant has antioxidants, is a natural anti- depressant, is being used and researched to treat bipolar disorder,alzheimerâ€™s (because it unlocks memory and helps recall), is being used to benefit suffers of rheumatism and joint pain, to aid others overcome severe drug additions and treat severe depression (documented in medical studies has been successful where other medications have failed), it has also be used to ease depression related to PMS and new cutting edge research of biosynthesis and medical applications of rosmarinic acid has been held promising. Hundredâ€™s of thousands who could be helped by the benefits of Salvia will be left to suffer. Medical research is very hopeful about how it can assist in a greater understanding of the brain. The state would also be rejecting alternative religions, cultures and societies that hold this plant SACRED, yes SACRED (American Indians, Shaman faiths, Alternative faiths and societies and peoples who immigrated from South and Central America into the US, use it to Salvia to commune with the Holy Mother and the Divine (God) and many of these people are in the US and Illinois. It would cost Illinois taxpayers millions to police salvia. People would illegally grow it, sell it, without the tax benefits going to our schools, roads, hospitals, cities and townships. Press accounts of efforts to ban Salvia often quote law enforcement and government officials who exhibit an inaccurate knowledge of the plantâ€™s effects. Salvia has a nondescript appearance (being in the same genus as cooking sage), can be grown in a small space, has no odor and requires no elaborate lighting set-up. For these reasons, criminalization is likely to affect only the commercial sale of the plant, and not its private cultivation, which would be very difficult to police and extremely costly to tax payers.

Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill. Salvia divinorum has begun to be researched and documented by a number of companies and universities on the medicinal applications of Salvia. Including antioxidants, as a natural anti- depressant, use against rheumatism and joint pain, to aid others overcome additions and treat severe depression where other medications have failed (these cases have already been medically documented), to ease depression related to PMS and new cutting edge research of biosynthesis and medical applications of rosmarinic acid. But if salvia is made illegal, it will greatly reduce the amount of research needed and treatment protocols that may result in ending the suffering of 1000â€™s of individuals. Salvia is in no way a stimulant, a sedative, a narcotic, nor a tranquilizer. Medical research has great hope for this plant. Be cautious about outlawing plants when you have yet to uncover its medicinal value. For example, we have just found out in newly released medical research of another plant that has been crucified as a drug in the US for decades and is currently illegal in most states, yet NOW been proven by medical research that it slows and even stops the growth of tumors and may be especially beneficial to breast cancer research. Thousands of women die each year from Breast Cancer and could have been saved had people who did their research, stopped and considered the long-term affects on medicine and society and got informed. Thousands more could benefit from the treatments using Salvia. Salvia has never caused anyone harm and does not have 1/10 the negative side affects of cigarettes, tobacco, alcohol or many, many prescription drugs (we know why no one bans them, money and lobbyist). Thousands upon thousands die from addictions to tabacco and alcohol every yearâ€“yet not one tries to band these because it is big business. Lastly, under the Federal Analogue Act, salvia fails to meet the â€œchemically similarâ€ criteria and thus is not subject to the analogue act provisions.

SALVIA DIVINORUM should be available for all those over the age of 18. STOP THE WITCH HUNT AND BE THE GOVERNOR OF REASON AND LEAD THE WAY!

Please also email the ACLU acluofillinois@aclu-il.org, please pass on to friends
Crystal

in July 9th, 2007 @ 14:00

Help save Salvia in Illinois, Time is running out fast!!! Email our Governor or better yet fax, if you have a fax machineÂ If Fax: Address Fax to Governor Rod Blagojevich, subject line: Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill. Governor at the following fax numbers: 217-524-6262 or 312-814-4862This is what to fax or email the Governor: (COPY AND PASTE THE BELOW)
Governor Rod Blagojevich: Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill.Â Â Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill. Salvia is not a plant that should be considered for this bill. If you make this plant illegal not only will you be eliminating 100,000 of dollars a year in tax revenue to the state of Illinois, you will be shutting down businesses and putting people out of work. Salvia is currently used in shaman rituals, religious ceremonies and for healing both by lisc. and holistic doctors and practitioners. The plant has antioxidants, is a natural anti- depressant, is being used and researched to treat bipolar disorder,alzheimerâ€™s (because it unlocks memory and helps recall), is being used to benefit suffers of rheumatism and joint pain, to aid others overcome severe drug additions and treat severe depression (documented in medical studies has been successful where other medications have failed), it has also be used to ease depression related to PMS and new cutting edge research of biosynthesis and medical applications of rosmarinic acid has been held promising. Hundredâ€™s of thousands who could be helped by the benefits of Salvia will be left to suffer. Medical research is very hopeful about how it can assist in a greater understanding of the brain. The state would also be rejecting alternative religions, cultures and societies that hold this plant SACRED, yes SACRED (American Indians, Shaman faiths, Alternative faiths and societies and peoples who immigrated from South and Central America into the US, use it to Salvia to commune with the Holy Mother and the Divine (God) and many of these people are in the US and Illinois. It would cost Illinois taxpayers millions to police salvia. People would illegally grow it, sell it, without the tax benefits going to our schools, roads, hospitals, cities and townships. Press accounts of efforts to ban Salvia often quote law enforcement and government officials who exhibit an inaccurate knowledge of the plantâ€™s effects. Salvia has a nondescript appearance (being in the same genus as cooking sage), can be grown in a small space, has no odor and requires no elaborate lighting set-up. For these reasons, criminalization is likely to affect only the commercial sale of the plant, and not its private cultivation, which would be very difficult to police and extremely costly to tax payers.Â Â Citizens request that you line item veto: HB0457: page 7 LRB095 04451 RLC 26428 b and remove Salvia from the bill. Salvia divinorum has begun to be researched and documented by a number of companies and universities on the medicinal applications of Salvia. Including antioxidants, as a natural anti- depressant, use against rheumatism and joint pain, to aid others overcome additions and treat severe depression where other medications have failed (these cases have already been medically documented), to ease depression related to PMS and new cutting edge research of biosynthesis and medical applications of rosmarinic acid. But if salvia is made illegal, it will greatly reduce the amount of research needed and treatment protocols that may result in ending the suffering of 1000â€™s of individuals. Salvia is in no way a stimulant, a sedative, a narcotic, nor a tranquilizer. Medical research has great hope for this plant. Be cautious about outlawing plants when you have yet to uncover its medicinal value. For example, we have just found out in newly released medical research of another plant that has been crucified as a drug in the US for decades and is currently illegal in most states, yet NOW been proven by medical research that it slows and even stops the growth of tumors and may be especially beneficial to breast cancer research. Thousands of women die each year from Breast Cancer and could have been saved had people who did their research, stopped and considered the long-term affects on medicine and society and got informed. Thousands more could benefit from the treatments using Salvia. Salvia has never caused anyone harm and does not have 1/10 the negative side affects of cigarettes, tobacco, alcohol or many, many prescription drugs (we know why no one bans them, money and lobbyist). Thousands upon thousands die from addictions to tabacco and alcohol every yearâ€“yet not one tries to band these because it is big business. Lastly, under the Federal Analogue Act, salvia fails to meet the â€œchemically similarâ€ criteria and thus is not subject to the analogue act provisions.SALVIA DIVINORUM should be available for all those over the age of 18. STOP THE WITCH HUNT AND BE THE GOVERNOR OF REASON AND LEAD THE WAY!Â Please also email the ACLU acluofillinois@aclu-il.org, please pass on to friends
nick

in August 18th, 2007 @ 06:31

I did a shit load of the herb the other week. I dont consider myself an expert of any particular drug but have experience of most uppers, downers & hallucinogens. S.Div. is by far the wierdest! A few minutes after smoking it your whole perception of what is real, where u are & what the fuck is going on is altered. Not only visuals but sounds that fit the experience. Your brain takes you on a surreal journey that you would not thought possible. It’s like experiencing another planet. I felt safe though & the journey is smooth & enjoyable.
salvia_user

in October 7th, 2007 @ 05:17

Stop taking large fucking doses of Salvia and then saying it’s bad. If you don’t document yourself about the plant BEFORE you take it and have a bad trip it’s your own dumb mistake. How the hell do you expect a nice trip from 60x extract of the most potent natural occuring hallucinogen known to man?!?

It’s like drinking 1000ml of VODKA, falling into a coma, and saying alcohol is very bad.
BuySalvia

in October 16th, 2007 @ 14:45

Who’s the mod here?
————————-SIG———————————–
salvia
Jim

in October 16th, 2007 @ 14:50

Unmoderated. How about them apples?
PETER

in November 8th, 2007 @ 23:35

I wanna buy salvia in milwaukee or near by, anyone know where can i find it? tks
Anthony

in November 17th, 2007 @ 19:30

Hello all, Ive done salvia a number of times and to tell you the truth i am only 14, but i have seen much more than any grown man has ever imagined seeing. Salvia is a very powerful plant and i do believe it’s spiritual reflect on the Human Mind. Ive sat and smoked it by myself and smoked it with a friend, a friend who 17 and was an athiest and me being tugged between buddhism and christianity. Durring me observing my friend tripping i realized he was having an out of body expirience and from the Bud we already smoked before this, i realized a spirit of evil or confusion has entered his body. and these are the exact words he said when it happened. ” Oh my god…I’m back.. IM BACK !……….Im going to kill you.”
Friends, this kid was smoking this plant to have a very trippy trip and was not aware of its Spiritual effects.. and ignored its purpose and ignored every time i tried and told him its meaning and reasons. then he crawled underneath my blanket on the side of my bed hiding from the penguins that were on TV.I smoked this plant and felt a great deal of wanting to know ” The Truth. ” My trip was fairly similar to my friend’s trip at first before his got ugly. I took several hits outside my roof and exhaled then began to feel effects kick in. I noticed i was not in control of my natural state in mind and that i was in for a ride. This state in mind i was in after smoking Salvia was not scary, or an uncomfortable feeling of disorderly thinking, but a rather “Path to the unexplained” The trip was as if somebody was laying down all the information i needed to know and put it on the table right in front of me. I do believe there is something much more advanced and Greater than what we Humans know of.But i also believe that Humans can access this knowledge and use it in very Powerful and Positive ways.

Like the others have said before i posted this, Salvia is meant for explorers who want to know the truth, the essential meaning to life and everything else known to make a significant difference to life.
If you are willing to take in the information, you will be Ok.
I am an average 14 year old boy who goes to school everyday who wishes to see the world as it is before it..Eventually comes to an end. now this statement is for me and the other people who accept the fate of their own lives. Do not Criticize what hasn’t happened yet, and about the possibilities of it happening, because theres always a possibility of something greater than the Mind can think that is out there.
The point of this is me telling you an experience that was more real to me than anything ive felt before.
Some of you may be thinking that ive lost my mind or that it has been so influence by this plant that i have lost my mind. but i say to you all that i have had the furthest thought of losing my mind, instead, i have thought of just beginning to find my mind. I would say i am an early explorer. An explorer of my own consciousness.

If you are wanting to know more of my experiences with this plant and much more other things, please contact me at aaoyikers12@hotmail.com
i look forward to a path of understanding and experimenting with people who understand what this plant is and its purpose.

I would be glad to tell you what all needs to be heard and understood.
rockbottom

in December 19th, 2007 @ 17:55

last night was my first time using salvia. i’m 45yrs old and consider myself a psychedelic expert. i’ve had all the experiences listed as salvia trips on other substances, ie; time travel, total disintigration of mind, out of body experiences, astral travel,white light, etc. etc. etc. so basically i felt prepared for anything. i read the salvia user guide, i hand made a stone pipe to be used only for salvia, then i hooked up my room with flashing lights, candles, and brightly colored prints.(i consider all that visual stimulation a mistake now) so now i receive my 25mg extra strength capsule of salvia. originally i was going to smoke half, but after reading a comment about some people being salvia hardheads, i cynically decide to use it all in one puff.the highlights of my experience are first i panicked. then i lost touch with all reality. who, where, what the fuck am i? i merged with the goddam flashing lights. i was an eternity of flashing lights. somethings not right. salvia. who, what, where am i? salvia. i stagger through my room to outside, divine inibriation. i see moon, clouds, stars. what does it mean? salvia. i “remember” how to smoke. i take a few puffs off a cig.( mistake) now i’m salvia. now i’m tobbacco. i stagger back inside. i remember now, salvia, is something i smoked. i lie down, goddam flashing lights. i become george of the fucking jungle. i live a life thats free. watch out for that tree. (blam) goddam flashing lights. i make a conscience decision to “become” salvia again. i remember salvia is a healing herb. i allow salvia to enter every molecule of my body. i feel salvia regenerating my shattered liver cells. i feel salvia aligning and reorienting all my cells “back” into proper alignment. i feel salvia repairing synapses and rerouting neurons in my brain. this is all good. salvia heal me, salvia heal me. i allow salvia to continue healing me as i come down.
trust me, this is one hell of a first trip on one puff of smoke. this shit is as strong and psychoactive as anything can be (one puff)
this next day i still feel it healing me.
i wished i had a sitter.
i wish i didn’t have all those goddam flashing lights on.
i wish i would have been more professional with this shit.
like i said “one hell of a first trip”
-Peace-
AnnElizabeth

in January 7th, 2008 @ 15:32

I just recently experienced salvia and one thing I can say is it is truly a special experience and should not be done for recreational purposes. I am not an online blogger at all, but the impact of the substance has made want to share it with other people who are curious.

I bought salvia for the wrong reason. I did not know much about it, but only that it would mess me up some how and since I was unable to find weed at the time I thought I would buy some salvia. People can say that marijuana is not addictive all they want, but the truth is that I was addicted to weed. The last few years I started smoking weed more and more and I began to notice that I only wanted to be high. I would do anything to find weed and stay up all night just to be high because I just loved how it made me feel.

Not knowing the effects of salvia I packed it in a glass pipe and smoked it, expecting to get high. Since I was so used to smoking weed I proceeded to smoking more salvia assuming that I would need a lot to feel its affects… later I learned this was not the case. Suddenly I started to imagine things and had not known what was going on. I started to freak out at first because I had no idea what the hell was going on. Not only did I not expect to trip out, but I had completely left reaity as I had known.

Many people say that the experience is something that cannot be explained, only experienced and I could not agree more. I felt very foreign in my very own bedroom until I saw something familiar and probably my most prized posession from my childhood that made me realize that it was going to be alright. I then laid down for the remainder of the experience. As much as I would love to explain what had happened I cannot even attempt because nothing can even come close to the actual feelings I had. The only thing I can say is I felt that I had left my own body and was completely satisfied. My spirit truly felt at peace with where I was. Coming out of the experience I knew I was starting to come back and wanting to go back to the world where I had just been where nothing had ever felt so peaceful in my life.

I have both anxiety disorder and a horrible case of ADHD. I am medicated for both and on the highest dosage of Adderall (XR 30) twice a day. Since my experience with salvia I have felt calm, relaxed and no longer desire marijuana. Now I am not dissing pot by any means, all I know was that it was controlling my life before and now it is not. To make things even better, the salvia is not addicting what so ever and although the feelings felt so heavenly, it is not something to be abused but rather treasured.

To some this experience may seem weird, but it is what it is. I was looking to get high and within a few minutes my life had changed. It left me feeling that there is more to life than the small things I often worry about. It really saddens me how people post videos tripping out on the experience when it does no harm and has been a sacred part of a culture for such a long time and unfortunately it will most likely become illegal because of its misuse.
Jon Ellis

in January 22nd, 2008 @ 03:46

I’ve done Salvia about 3 times now (maybe 4).

What Salvia does is show you the many other dimensions which make up the entirety of reality. There is probably one more dimension of space and dime. Salvia shows you this, and can show other periods in one’s life as well.

Itzhak Bars’ theory on 2 time physics says our reality can best be thought of as a ’shadow’ cast on a surface by a larger ‘3d shape’ or all encompassing reality. What we experience is just one of the infinite number of shadows cast by that larger reality. This article is a good read about this subject: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/10/scitime110.xml

The point is, Salvia allows one to see the terrifying truth about our reality being one of many which are very similar, slight deviations from this one.

anyways, it’s kind of a freaky realization, but get used to it. write me at snugglepuggle@hotmail.com if you can relate or want to talk about Salvia D.

-Jon
gonzo

in February 22nd, 2008 @ 14:17

drugs are bad and stuff
LJance

in April 2nd, 2008 @ 22:03

I once thought that the salvia divinorum can effect to our health after effect it may occur by increasing our insight feeling,increased connection with the nature and sometimes often unpleasant or uncomfortable mood.

anyway you can visit this site http://www.salvia divinorum.com

Thanks and Hope you can visit our site.
Dan

in April 14th, 2008 @ 15:00

I tried Salvia for the first time about 2 months ago. I did the 40x extract and took
2 big hits. After that it sent me into a panic mode. I was walking aimlessly around my basement into walls and furniture. I was saying, “Call the cops, call the hospital.” Just imagine the worst experiece you have ever had, now times that by about 100, and that is how I felt on Salvia. I felt like my life was over and I had just screwed myself. After the first hardcore part ended, I was lying on my couch, about and hour later still not feeling right. I kept saying to my friends, “I think I’m fucked for life.” It was the scariest time of my life. Now I have done shrooms multiple times, acid once, Ketaimine multiple times, cocaine a bunch and I smoke weed daily. NOTHING, comes anywhere near the experience with Salvia 40x Extract. I tried to go to sleep that night, hoping and praying that i would wake up and be normal.
I did not. For about a week afterwards I had crazy waves of depression andfeelings of being detached and being a whole new different person. I liked the person I was before my Salvia experience way better than the post-Salvia. FINALLY, about a month later, I could say to myself “I am finally better, and back to normal” But I’m just not sure that I am. I still have really scary thoughts regarding the experince. my recommendation would be to NEVER smoke Salvia. What is the point? Meditation? Finding yourself? …Yeah, I found my self.. in an extremely scary place no one should ever want to be. If you do try it, do the 10x or 20x first, becuz I’ve heard from others that it is way less intense. Good luck in your decision making.
Steve

in April 23rd, 2008 @ 21:51

Im about to leave for the military and i used to be a huge pothead, and im just looking for something fun to experience before i go away to bootcamp, i live at the border of Wisconsin,in Antioch IL and i was wondering if there where any close head shops that i could get salvia from?
norm

in May 1st, 2008 @ 09:09

No offense to him particularly but people like were Dan and others who cannot handle the trip simply were not prepared for a spiritual experience beyond the normal range of human knowledge. A similar debate rages from scientists who tend to “not want to go” where their own knowledge reaches the point that it doesn’t fit into their preconceived notion. I HIGHLY recommend anyone with an interest in physics, metaphysics, the occult, mysticism, native cultures or other forms of magic to let the Salvia take you to it’s world.
Andy

in June 14th, 2008 @ 03:33

Ok. I know I’m going to sound like a dildoe, but Salvia messes with some delicate mental processes, and should be treated with caution. I’m not coming here to say I’m an expert on psychology, metaphysics, or whatever, but i know enough from college to give opinion. I do know how scary it is to lose you’re state of mind. Today i bought 10X on a end of supply sale. I thought, F it; the last time I did it, I was 13.

Well, I sat down before bed, and i took a breathful. On my way to the bathtub though, WAM! it hit me. From there on out, i was without any conception of reality. If i wasn’t stable enough to calm myself and understand what was going on, i can imagine myself getting lost in that five minute expansion the way Dan did. I think the herb plays with a phenomenon that we have a natural barrier against. When you induce a dissociative episode, man… like the previous guy said, why would you want to be anything but yourself?

The way i think about it, out bodies and minds our set up to live in the sensate. you lose that, you lose purpose and panic. What I do know for a fact, is that being displaced can cause anomie. You can see that when someone loses all material goods, and commits suicide. imagine losing your sense of self. I can completely understand where Dan went with Salvia, and It’s surprising that more people don’t have the same tale.
Andy

in June 14th, 2008 @ 03:45

just a repost about what exactly i meant to say:

Annelizabeth got it right. That’s exactly how i feel about the xperience. I do feel though, that some people who enter into it not expecting a dissociative episode will be taken for a ride. Abuse and misuse of this drug is more than a irresponsible use of a substance: it’s an irresponsible use of your mind, and the internal processes governing it. I didn’t understand what the drug was until i used it, but now I do.

You’re throwing yourself into an out of body experience. Your experiencing a dissociative episode, the same experience that many have after traumatic events. Use it for a moment of clarity, but if you’re trying to get high, don’t be surprised if you panic.
Dawn

in July 21st, 2008 @ 13:51

Dan, my experience was identical to yours in every way, right down to the depression and long-lasting after effects.
I tried the 60x extract, took two hits out of a bong.

In retrospect, I see that my biggest problem was that I was as unprepared as I could possibly be for the effects. I had done no research on salvia and was not aware that first-time users should NEVER use an extract so strong. 5x or 10x are the standard dosage. Additionally, when using such high dosage one should NEVER be alone, and must always have a sitter. YOU CAN SERIOUSLY INJURE YOURSELF OR OTHERS IN THIS DISSASOCIATIVE STATE.

This plant can be a wonderful tool for self-exploration, but one must be PREPARED before taking a salvia trip. There are many unethical and ignorant vendors out there (much like the one who sold to me) who will push salvia as a party drug. It is not a recreational drug, is nothing like other psychedelics, and must never be treated as such.

For anyone wishing to try salvia for the first time, I believe it is imperative to read this free user’s guide first. http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html

Good luck and be safe!
stan

in August 15th, 2008 @ 23:52

Folks, this is a powerful drug. I am 48, have not done any drugs for 20 years, except alcohol. Had a rare couple of days to myself (no kids, wife, work etc)Read about salvia in the newspaper– politicians wanting to make it illegal– peaked my interest since it is legal. Did a little searching, found it at headshop/sextoy store just 5 minutes away. Bought the 20X variety, plus a pipe to smoke it with– remember– no drugs for 20 years, thus no implements. Hey, 5 minutes away, less than $50, legal– I’m thinking all the way that I am being totally stupid and will take the stuff and write what a total bogus deal it is. Digressing for a moment– 20+ years ago– total stoner– pot, LSD, mushrooms, coke, speed, downers– name it I took it and abused it. So, back to the deed. Sat down on the back porch with a fresh glass of icewater and a cold beer. Peeled the price tag off the pipe, tore the shrink wrap off of the salvia (looks like a tin of Sucrets, very innocent) Put a bit in the pipe, fired it up– one hit, another very quickly after—— holy shit—- completely undone, passed out whatever— don’t exactly know because no one else was here. Complete immersion into a fairly unpleasant trip. Came to on my knees. No sense of time, my only indicator was that my beer was still cold and there was still ice in my water. The previous 5-10 (?) minutes is a loss as to what happened, other than the psych trip, which again, was not happy. Having said all of that– Major Advice– this is an incredibly powerful drug, heed the advice of others (have someone else with you, most importantly) and DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POTENCY just because it is legal and available at the corner store. I thought I was a bad ass, but now…
emillie

in October 27th, 2008 @ 13:21

personaly i will never do salvia again. i thought i was on a wooden plank about to fall to death on a pirate ship.
Chris

in November 12th, 2008 @ 14:10

I have not had t6he chance to try Salvia yet because I am waiting for my order to come in the mail. However, from the last few post here it just surprises me how people will try anything without researching it first. I have read probably over 10 sites and hundreds of pages relating to those sites to find experiences and information before proceeding. A friend told me about Salvia in 2003 when I was in the military since it was legal and still is as far the Air Force is concerned. Yet, I forgot about it when I got of the military. The local news presented a quick commercial with a synopsis of a story they were going to do in regards to it later that night and it jogged my memory. I went looking for as much information as I could. I think I am well prepared and have bought various extracts and just foliage so I can work up to the longer lasting astral experiences. I have had astral experiences to a certain extent without ever using a drug but have never been able to fully break the barrier of leaving my own body. I always could feel myself lifting out like my body was sinking and I could not move my limbs but the last time it happened I freaked a little because I heard heavy breathing right behind where my head would be on my bed and jumped right back into my body to find no one there. I spoke to a fortuneteller or soothsayer who asked if my family had done any major construction around the home lately and I said yes we tore down a line of trees and dug up the ground to begin putting in a fence. She said essentially I ticked off some spirits who had apparently made their home there. I made amends in the way she instructed me to by sprinkling some tobacco as an offering and never had anything come up again but without even using something like Salvia it was still pretty intense and crazy to have nothing there breathing heavily and deeply behind your head as if it was mad. I am looking forward to it but also know that I am going to have to have my guard up. I would say that in all the research I have done the one most important thing if you decide to by the extracts is to make sure it is a standardized extract instead of a crude extract method. The standardized uses chemistry to isolate the active ingredient in S. Divinorum and then a measured amount of Divinorum A placed back on to the leave. The crude method is a boiling down of X number of leaves until you are left with a gooey substance that is in turn scooped out with a regular leaf. The crude method does not guarantee the potency that you are being informed it is. In addition, the crude method leaves tar and particle leaf matter from the boiling down process that can be harmful to your lungs and body when smoked. Someone posted way long ago I read that they had gotten a sore throat or infection after smoking and I would perhaps make the assumption that the method they used for extraction on the dose they bought is what caused it. I also have heard if you smoke cigarettes that can also cause some sinus infection. Last thing I got to say and that is to those of you who bought the shit because someone was selling it to you like a party drug I am so sorry that they did that you. I have seen YouTube videos of friends messing with friends after they have smoked or not informing their friends of what they were going to be in for and you so want to beat the crap out of those people, especially the ones who know what is happening and they still mess with you after you smoked it Anyhow peace for now everyone and if/when I get my order and take that initial leap I’ll make sure to update you all on how it went.
ravi verma

in November 17th, 2008 @ 02:14

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in January 5th, 2009 @ 17:17

A knife in a child´s hand may be dangerous, in an mature artist hand can make art.
Salvia must be done with respect, and like any other substance or drug must be taken from a small dosage to a bigger one in a degradé method till you find you own dosage.
Having afraid means that´s not for you or tha you respect it…
It´s a fantastic “thing” that can take you in a deeper level of your mind, and see memories and stuff that otherwise is “almost” impossible.
I agree when you say that would be better if you could get there without drugs, but some times we got to be realistic and understand that that option is more utopic than pratical.
Don´t wanna teach nothing to any one, just tell my experince and way of seeing things…
You cannot define this drug in one single way, it can give you many diferent experiences and levels of conciousness. You can just laugh has you can travel (not sure if just in you mind or also in time and space). But maybe we shouldn´t try to put such a mystical and powerfull thing in one sentence.
But one thing is for sure, the most close tat i´ve been of something that i call devine was with this and a mix of herbs called Xanga.
Divine has many ways and is present in everything…
Has an acient Toltec once said:

“We and everything that sorrounds us is made of the same light seen in the stars”

You can see the sunshine just like a sunshine or you can see it has a magic and beutyfull happening, it just depends if you can percept things in a magic way.

Life is allready divine, don´t need to go to heaven to see that!!!
addiction specialist

in January 24th, 2009 @ 02:44

IN THE END IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU’RE JUST FUCKING HIGH.
how about going through the often undesired path of self development, the true and natural way toward self awareness, mindfulness and spirituality by exercising restraint, awareness, kindness and acceptance, instead of taking drugs that give you the false perception of divinity, short term, leaving you to depend on them for further cosmic-Godlike connections.
jclifford

in January 24th, 2009 @ 14:28

Why don’t I want to take your path toward mindfulness? For the same reason, oh ye who specializes in addiction, that I eat chocolate, and not carob.
addiction specialist

in January 25th, 2009 @ 00:50

there is nothing wrong with eating chocolate, and your argument is plain stupid. Drugs are not evil, it is the people that use them and in the way that they are used that make them potentially dangerous.
jclifford

in January 26th, 2009 @ 06:58

Golly, but that’s not the argument you used before. You were blasting people for taking drugs “that give you the false perception of divinity”. There are plenty of religious traditions that center around the use of drugs, you know. Are their divinities more false than other religions’ divinities? Besides, how do you know that going to church gives a perception of divinity that is any more true than that perceived under a drug like salvia divinorum? There’s no more proof of reality in one than in the other. Your rant is swiss cheese, oh ye who specializes in addiction.
buy salvia

in July 5th, 2009 @ 12:56

It is now being slowly made illegal in some of the states in the US.

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