Irregular Times Diaries: Unfit Discussion
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Irregular Times Diaries: Unfit DiscussionIn a time of the spring, old paths are obscured and new growth begins.
I’ve been browsing through some fundamentalist religious quotes on Fundies Say The Darndest Things and from what I can tell most of those quotes can be broken up into five basic categories:
-Anti-Evolution
-Anti-Homosexuality
-Anti-Abortion
-Anti-other religions
-Miscellaneous
Now, while I could go and tackle each and every one of those points and their reasons behind them, I want to focus on the Anti-Homo part of it during this entry.
I’ve heard many justifications for this type of bigotry and they’ve come in many forms from calm explanations to near hysterical SHOUTING IN ALL CAPS-LOCK!!!1!111!!
But whatever form it takes on it always seems to come back to one thing: “Its an abomination against God” and to support this stance and their own bigotry they’ll site Leviticus 18:22. However most of these same people, when you point anything else out they’ll say that the New Testament did away with the Old Testament and therefore the Old Testament is now invalid. Except, just now to confirm what I was already pretty sure of, I looked up the book of Leviticus, and guess what I found?
Leviticus is a part of the Old Testament.
Now, rather than use the point of eating shell-fish to counter their argument and show them as hypocrites, I’m just going to start pointing out what they already believe; that Jesus’ sacrifice rendered the Old Testament obsolete (seeing as they seem so intent on ignoring Matthew 5:18-19 and Luke 16:17 when it suits them) and that therefore Homosexuality must be just fine so long as those damn homos except Jesus as their savior. After all, the Old Testament is invalid according to them, right?
Now, if they somehow claim that homosexuality is a sin and yet the Old Testament is still void, I feel I’d be well justified in pointing out their hypocrisy.
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November 11th, 2007 at 11:27 am
It’s not quite that simple, Damen. For one thing, a lot the fundies you are looking at do think the Bible is the exact, literal word of God, and not just something written by someone who was inspired by God or merely recording current events. If they did not believe it, perhaps the Bible would not have been preserved and passed down so carefully that we have it today.
The second part of the equation is the letters of Paul in the New Testament. Paul was a Jewish lawyer, specifically a Pharisee, which is still a beancounter, but not as bad as a Sadducee. His supposed letters were collected by the heretic Marcion and early in Christian history became accepted by many as the exact word of god. Surely Christianity owes much to Paul who made Christianity palatable to anyone in the Greek world and not just a small esoteric group of Jews. Paul addressed issues of Jewish dietary law and circumcision as Jewish legal issues.
Jesus did not say anything about homosexuality, but Paul more than made up for it. So even in the mainstream churches that do not take such a literal view of scripture, there is not complete agreement about homosexuality. Certainly it is not in sync with the rest of the Christian message of compassion, turning the other cheek, and leaving judgment to God.
November 13th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
One of my favorite sites.
December 21st, 2007 at 11:21 am
Hi Damen,
posted a link on the “Prove Jesus existed” thread.It contains a number of vidoes. I hope you get to watch them.