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November 21, 2007

Saudis Defend Punishment For Rape Victim

by @ 1:17 pm. Filed under Be Afraid, Broken Taboo, Foreigners, In Defense of The Faith, Outrages, Perversion, ethics, general, liberty, religion, sex

A follow-up to the story of the Saudi government punishing a rape victem located here.

News Article

Saudis defend punishment for rape victim
Wed Nov 21, 9:19 AM ET

The Saudi judiciary on Tuesday defended a court verdict that sentenced a 19-year-old victim of a gang rape to six months in jail and 200 lashes because she was with an unrelated male when they were attacked.

The Shiite Muslim woman had initially been sentenced to 90 lashes after being convicted of violating Saudi Arabia’s rigid Islamic law requiring segregation of the sexes.

But in considering her appeal of the verdict, the Saudi General Court increased the punishment. It also roughly doubled prison sentences for the seven men convicted of raping the woman, Saudi news media said last week.

The reports triggered an international outcry over the Saudis punishing the victim of a terrible crime.

But the Ministry of Justice stood by the verdict Tuesday, saying that “charges were proven” against the woman for having been in a car with a man who was not her relative.

The ministry implied the victim’s sentence was increased because she spoke out to the press. “For whoever has an objection on verdicts issued, the system allows an appeal without resorting to the media,” said the statement, which was carried on the official Saudi Press Agency.

The attack occurred in 2006. The victim says she was in a car with a male student she used to know trying to retrieve a picture of her. She says two men got into the car and drove them to a secluded area where she was raped by seven men. Her friend also was assaulted.

Justice in Saudi Arabia is administered by a system of religious courts according to the kingdom’s strict interpretation of Islamic law.

Judges have wide discretion in punishing criminals, rules of evidence are vague and sometimes no defense lawyer is present. The result, critics say, are sentences left to the whim of judges. A rapist, for instance, could receive anywhere from a light sentence to death.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack avoided directly criticizing the Saudi judiciary over the case, but said the verdict “causes a fair degree of surprise and astonishment.”

“It is within the power of the Saudi government to take a look at the verdict and change it,” McCormack said.

Canada’s minister for women’s issues, Jose Verger, has called the sentence “barbaric.”

The New York-based Human Rights Watch said the verdict “not only sends victims of sexual violence the message that they should not press charges, but in effect offers protection and impunity to the perpetrators.”

I’m sorry, but you can try to make any excuse you want to explain away this type of behavior but I can’t view this sort of thing as anything less than the most outrageous, disgusting, immoral perversion of justice that I’ve seen in a very, very long time.

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4 Responses to “Saudis Defend Punishment For Rape Victim”

  1. Gary Says:

    This is so very wrong!! What are people like this doing here in the 21st Century!
    Everyone who believe she should be punished like, that should themselves be punished like that! Its not Muslin it is inhumanity that allows this to happen.

  2. Irregular Times: News Unfit for Print » Contrast Reactions to 200 Lashes for a Saudi Gang Rape Victim Says:

    […] response to news that a woman in Saudi Arabia who had been raped by seven men was subjected by judges to 200 lashes with a whip and jail time, Republican State Department […]

  3. Duane Says:

    Read the bible and you will see the same kinds of nonsense as you see in the Koran. Women are treated as property in each. Rape is not a crime in the bible. In fact according to the bible if an unmarried woman is raped the rapist is to offer the girls father a certain ammount of money and marry her. The woman must marry her rapist, wow, that’s justice. Adultery with a married woman is the crime in the Bible because the woman is the husbands property and you have used his property without permission I presume. Rape in this case is a crime because it is a property crime not because of the womans choice, rights, resulting physical condition, or dignity.

  4. Contrast Reactions to 200 Lashes for a Saudi Gang Rape Victim Says:

    […] response to news that a woman in Saudi Arabia who had been raped by seven men was subjected by judges to 200 lashes with a whip and jail time, Republican State Department […]

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