Comments on: Deja Vu all over again? 1972 replayed

By: Iroquois

Iroquois — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:21:05 +0000

You didn’t post a link to your article, Jerseydem.

Didn’t Barack look a little depressed last night? I bet the obamabots who hang out here are depressed too. What you need is a little music. There is a new La Bamba Obama song going around but it is terribly depressing too, here is one a little livelier.
http://www.latinalista.net/palabrafinal/2008/02/the-lyrics-sing-obama-but-the-tune-strum.html

By: jerseydem

jerseydem — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:20:23 +0000

Oooops, maybe I spoke too soon. It seems that the press is actually taking an interest in exploring Obama’s background. Why I actually even heard a CNN pundit ask him what types of decisions he’s made that might suggest he would be a good commander-in-chief. When asked the same question, Senator Clinton was able to point to very specific instances during her husband’s terms as president, when she was assigned to engage in negotiations on behalf of the country (e.g., Ireland and Bosnia).

Not so for Obama — he just went back to his broken record about how he showed the best judgment in 2002 by opposing the occupation of Iraq. So far, he doesn’t seem to be able to take the heat — the scrutiny — that presidential candidates are ultimately subject to.

As to the outcomes in Texas and Ohio, What A Relief! For a while there, it looked like everyone had been drinking the Kool-Aid.

By: jerseydem

jerseydem — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:27:14 +0000

Well, I must stand corrected. I think that events have shown a phenomenal rise of support, from all segments of voters, including Republicans, for Obama’s campaign. RIn short, Obama’s campaign has been nothing less than a sensation.

Moreover, he has demonstrated an unusual — almost unique — ability to deflect any questions about his ability to achieve any of his goals. (A source of consternation to me — see my new posting on “The Damn Press – Too little, too late.”) E.g., he has so far managed to fend off any real scrutiny of his abilities and/or requests for specifics of what and how he will achieve his goal of a non-partisan government.

If he can sustain his uncanny aptitude for avoiding answering hard questions during the campaign leading up to the general election, he should be able to deflect McCain handily.

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Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:02:49 +0000

[...] the night of the Iowa caucuses, Jerseydem wrote that since white people just won’t vote for a black man for president, perhaps we shouldn’t vote for the black man for president. Since then, Barack Obama has [...]

By: Iroquois

Iroquois — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:45:10 +0000

It’s not a matter of being “convinced”. Jerseydem is trying to measure and predict a potential outcome, assuming the voters are static; Jim is trying to influence a potential outcome through prediction, assuming the voters are fluid. These two approaches will always be at odds, but both are necessary.

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:50:50 +0000

Well, you have your conclusion in your question, so you’re not going to be convinced otherwise.

By: jerseydem

jerseydem — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:03:52 +0000

Jim said (post 32) :Well, I think jerseydem’s question: “are Caucasian Americans really ready to vote for a Black/minority president?” has been answered empirically by the caucuses and primaries.

I beg to differ, Jim. McGovern won the 1972 nomination; it’s not a question of whether Obama can win individual primaries or caucuses. The question is whether he could win in a national election. I’ll reiterate one of the major facts underlying my question about Obama: the United States is a racist country with an underclass comprised largely of Black Americans.

With that in mind, is America going to elect a black President?

BTW, a significant fact about Iowa that must always be considered when evaluating the outcome of the Iowa caucus is that the voters from that state have never elected a woman governor, U.S. senator or Congressperson.

By: Iroquois

Iroquois — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:37:35 +0000

You saw the Zogby poll saying Obama is the only Dem who could beat McCain–although any of the other dems could beat the other republicans? Of course Zogby doesn’t take into account the–what is it called–”Bradley effect”. The exit-poll thing where people say publicly they voted for a black but they really didn’t.

My gut feeling is Edwards wants to be VP for Obama, and wants to get enough delegates to be able to make some sort of a trade at the convention.

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:08:15 +0000

Well, I think jerseydem’s question: “are Caucasian Americans really ready to vote for a Black/minority president?” has been answered empirically by the caucuses and primaries. Not only has Obama won the support of Democrats, but he’s also attracted a large swing vote of independents. It’s happened in three states, and when I hear independents who have voted or caucused for Obama explain themselves, I hear something genuine in their voices, not some kind of KarlRovian plot.

By: Anon

Anon — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:54:19 +0000

Jim, I wholeheartedly agree with your comment posted Jan 3rd, however, I’m disappointed that you have not posted any comments since then…