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August 8, 2008

Words of Wisdom from a Flippant Website

by @ 1:28 pm. Filed under Conspiracies, environment, ethics, fun, general, personal

Fishing

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July 29, 2008

A Personal Question

by @ 3:23 am. Filed under American Patriots, Broken Taboo, Conspiracies, Outrages, Perversion, ethics, general, media, personal, sex

The war’s dragging on, people are dying, Oklahoma has been under a heat advisory for almost over a week solid now, the government is gleefully stripping away our rights on both sides of the isle, and all the other outrages I may have missed have largely been unreported. So I have to ask this question;

Why is it, with all the things Americans should know and be aware of both within our borders and regarding the world at large, that when I turn on CNN I don’t see an article about any of that but a story running about how a 73-year old geezer is the most popular porn star in Japan.

Seriously, CNN, what the fuck?! Why is this news?

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July 19, 2008

Conservatives

by @ 2:02 am. Filed under general

I find It rather interesting that so many among us worry about what conservative websites publish or promote. Have there been acts of violence as a result of sites such as Rightwingstuff documented anywhere…do they compare to the acts of violence that occur in “my Philadelphia” each day. Lets consider the future and dwell less upon the past. We can remind ourselves of our struggles and be sure that they are not forgotten while holding ourselves accountable along the way. As a student and instructor of history I recognize the importance of understanding and explaining the past but also see far too many wanting and willing to use the past as a crutch and as an excuse for their shortcomings today.

Clean up your own backyard!    Joseph

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July 14, 2008

Bush to Lift Executive Ban on Offshore Drilling

by @ 1:11 pm. Filed under Broken Taboo, Democratic Losers, Global Hot Air, Outrages, Republican Heroes, environment, general, legislation, politics

First thing I see when Yahoo pops on is this little gem of a story.

Bush to lift executive ban on offshore drilling

By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer 24 minutes ago

In another push to deal with soaring gas prices, President Bush on Monday will lift an executive ban on offshore drilling that his stood since his father was president. But the move, by itself, will do nothing unless Congress acts as well.

The president plans to officially lift the ban and then explain his actions in a Rose Garden statement, White House press secretary Dana Perino said.

There are two prohibitions on offshore drilling, one imposed by Congress and another by executive order signed by former President Bush in 1990. The current president, trying to ease market tensions and boost supply, called last month for Congress to lift its prohibition before he did so himself.

But Perino said Bush no longer wants to wait. She pinned blame on the leaders of the Democratic Congress, noting that no action has been taken on this issue.

“They haven’t even held a single hearing,” Perino said. “So we are going to move forward, and hopefully that will spur action by the Congress.”

Asked if Bush’s action alone will lead to more oil drilling, Perino said, “In terms of allowing more exploration to go forward? No, it does not.”

The president, in his final months of office, has responded to record gas-prices with a series of proposals, including more oil exploration. None would have immediate impact on prices at the pump, according to White House officials, who say there is no quick fix. But starting action now would help, they say.

Bush’s proposal echoes a call by Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, to open the Continental Shelf for exploration. Democrat Barack Obama has opposed the idea and instead argued for helping consumers with a second economic stimulus package including energy rebates, as well as stepped up efforts to develop alternative fuels and more fuel-efficient automobiles.

“If offshore drilling would provide short-term relief at the pump or a long-term strategy for energy independence, it would be worthy of our consideration, regardless of the risks,” spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement. “But most experts, even within the Bush administration, concede it would do neither. It would merely prolong the failed energy policies we have seen from Washington for thirty years.”

Congressional Democrats have rejected the push to lift the drilling moratorium, accusing the president of hoping the U.S. can drill its way out a problem.

Bush says offshore drilling could yield up to 18 billion barrels of oil over time, although it would take years for production to start. Bush also says offshore drilling would take pressure off prices over time. In addition, the president has proposed opening the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for drilling, lifting restrictions on oil shale leasing in the Green River Basin of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming and easing the regulatory process to expand oil refining capacity.

Congressional Democrats, joined by some GOP lawmakers from coastal states, have opposed lifting the prohibition that has barred energy companies from waters along both the East and West coasts and in the eastern Gulf of Mexico. A succession of presidents, from Bush’s father — George H.W. Bush — to Bill Clinton, have sided against drilling in these waters, as has Congress each year for 27 years. Their goal has to been to protect beaches and coastal states’ tourism economies.

Surprise, surprise, an oil barron is gonna lift a ban on offshore drilling and then lay the blame on the Democrats.

“I didn’t wanna do it, they MADE ME do it!” Schoolyard reasoning from our Commander in Theif.

And Obama wants another round of checks? A wonderfully bad idea, if you ask me. Throw money at the problem and see it go straight into the oil companies’ pockets rather than actually providing a meaningful solution to the problem.

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July 1, 2008

Change I Can Believe In? What a Load of Bullshit.

by @ 11:09 pm. Filed under Outrages, activism, democrats, election 2008, ethics, general, liberty, mysteries, personal, politics

At best, I was a half-hearted supporter of Obama’s. I was never overly enthused by him, though there were some periods where I thought I’d be able to call myself an Obama supporter with a measure of dignity. Over the last few weeks, that illusion has been shattered.

For all his talk and all his charm, Obama’s showing me now what I can expect in the future; more of the same old G.W.B. bullshit. As I look on his stances on the FISA amendments and now the faith-based bullshit, I can’t help but be left to reflect on our current situation.

Over the last 8 years, two presidential terms, George Bush has pulled some of the most unlawful actions in American history with impunity. Anything he wanted, he got on a golden platter. Anything illegal he did was turned a blind eye to by those sworn to uphold the rule of the law. I am now convinced that this attitude has forever ruined American politics and will lead us into a new age where corruption runs unchecked.

Obama now knows he’s got a 50-50 chance of getting the presidency and that Americans are pretty pissed at Republicans so the pressure’s pretty well off him now. And he’s been shown that the president can snub his nose at the law and Congress will roll over like the impotent, toothless tiger that it’s become.

And really, what choice do we, the people, have but to grin and bear it? There’s nothing that I know of which can force a reform to the corrupt politicains we now have in office. There’s no third party I can vote for because rarely, if ever, does a third party get on the ballet here in Oklahoma. Any time a third party gets media attention, it seems, it is laughed down until it crawls back under it’s rock.

The only thing I can think of, which I’ve mentioned before, is revoke the guarenteed spots on the ballots for Republicans and Democrats, but I know that won’t happen with the government the way it is now. I honestly want to know what can be done to change the way things are. I know, call my senator and voice my opinion, but even then the shit that shouldn’t be passed through congress is still being passed.

I thought I was going to vote this year, but I’m now seeing myself with the same options as when I thought Hillary Clinton was going to get the nomination; a choice between a Republican and a Republican Lite. Which one will shit on the Constitution less?

Obama, I thought you were the voice of change, I thought you were a voice of hope, but now I see what’s under the sheep’s clothing and I’m not impressed.

Will America ever return to the way it was before Bush got into office?

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June 23, 2008

Liberal Talk Radio Drinks the Kool Aid On FISA Amendments Act

by @ 11:49 am. Filed under general, media

I am freaking disgusted with liberal talk radio. It started on Thursday of last week, with Randi Rhodes making ludicrous excuses for the FISA Amendments Act. Friday Morning, Air America’s Bill Press Show pretended the whole FISA Amendments Act thing didn’t exist at all - though they found time to report that Britney Spears’ sister had a baby.

Then today, I tune in to Stephanie Miller, and when a listener calls in to express disappointment with Barack Obama for supporting the warrantless wiretapping amnesty in the FISA Amendments Act, she cuts the caller off after less than five seconds, reads a long note about how wise it was of Obama to support the FISA Amendments Act, and then went straight to commercial break.

The fix is in. These people aren’t liberals. They’re Democratic partisans, and they’re using their power to repeat the Democratic Party leadership’s talking points, pretending that nothing has happened. They don’t seem to care that Americans have lost one of the most important liberties in the Bill of Rights. They’ll support it, so long as the Democratic candidate supports it.

How unthinking. How predictable. How boring. How so not part of my radio habit any more. It’s time to turn Air America off.

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May 23, 2008

A Little Honest Graft In Alabama’s Jails

by @ 11:15 am. Filed under Be Afraid, Uncategorized, ethics, general, money, politics

According to a May 17,2008 AP article, Alabama’s county sheriffs are are given $1.75 per day to feed a prisoner - and are allowed to pocket the difference, if they can do it cheaper.

The report says “critics charge that Alabama, in effect, is paying law enforcement to skimp on food and might be rewarding sheriffs for mistreating prisoners. “It’s a bad system, and it ought not be that way,” said Buddy Sharpless, executive director of the Association of County Commissions of Alabama.

I don’t understand the negative reaction to the fact that Alabama’s county sheriffs are allowed to profit by, in my opinion participating in what amounts to legal graft, by scrimping on food for prisoners. (Alabama jails bank on cheap meals - Law allows sheriffs to pocket leftover food allowance, AP May 17, 2008)

What’s the big deal? Isn’t this exactly what private prisons do? While condemning the practice by county sheriffs, I’m sure Mr. Sharpless would listen attentively to executives from Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) making their pitch to privatize public jails and prisons.

CCA claims to save states and counties money by negotiating a per-head fee for housing and feeding prisoners. They profit by pocketing the difference between what they spend and what they charge the taxpayers. Contracting-out public services had been a gold mine for ARAMARK, too. In addition to prisons, ARAMARK also turns a tidy profit feeding children attending public schools.

I agree with Mr. Sharpless opinion, “It’s a bad system, and it ought not be that way.” As a taxpayer I want to know my dollars are going to provide public services, not lining the pockets of CCA and ARAMARK.

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May 8, 2008

Damen’s Irregular Thought #2

by @ 3:30 am. Filed under fun, general, mysteries, personal

Are modern pirates still bucklers of swashes?

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April 26, 2008

Damen’s Irregular Thought #1

by @ 8:14 pm. Filed under Broken Taboo, fun, general, personal

Why didn’t I get a pony for my 16th birthday?

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April 8, 2008

Hillary Clinton and Watergate

by @ 10:02 am. Filed under election 2008, ethics, general, history, politics

I just saw an article at AfterDowningStreet.org claiming that Hillary Clinton, when employed by the House Judiciary Committee in investigating Watergate, was dishonest and unethical. The writer spoke to, among others, the committee’s chief of staff, Jerry Zeifman. Clinton was working on a memo supporting the position that Nixon had no right to counsel before the committee; Zeifman told her she should read and cite a recent case that gave the opposite precedent; when she finished the memo, he found that she had (a) ignored that case, and (b) removed it from the committee’s files. Apparently, she was taking this position in the first place because her political patron was tied to the Kennedys, who didn’t want Nixon defending himself too well—he could have excused his own abuses of power by digging up JFK’s.

There’s more (including from the chief Republican counsel), but, to me, that’s the worst of it. If this is true, then Clinton probably committed a crime, in order to strengthen her patron’s political standing.

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March 28, 2008

Clinton totally stuffed on Obama professor bash

by @ 1:21 pm. Filed under general

You know, Clinton, when you call someone else a liar, you need to be sure you are right.

“Sen. Obama consistently and falsely claims that he was a law professor.”

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=6752

“From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School…. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.”

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html

Obama’s rubber. Clinton, you’re glue. It bounces off him and sticks to you.

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March 12, 2008

Christmas at Cadillac Jack’s - Movies, Gambling, and “More”

by @ 9:49 am. Filed under general

You thought churches were boring places? All frowns, no fun.

Well, get ready to change your mind!

When the Adventists get ready to celebrate Christmas, your expectations will be fulfilled! In 2007, they celebrated the holiday at Cadillac Jack’s.

“Cadillac Jack’s Casino offers a spacious gaming floor with 181 of your favorite and newest slot machines in town! Also enjoy five action-packed Blackjack tables, four LIVE Poker tables with the friendliest dealers in town, and free cocktails to all players!”

You must be used to dimly-lit cathedrals. When the Adventists get together to celebrate, SAY HELLO to the bright lights!

Wicked tongues have circulated false rumors about the Adventists:

You may be aware that Adventists are strictly forbidden ‘worldly functions’ such as movies, the circus, dances, and cards. They are not even allowed to read secular literature and the reading of novels is strictly forbidden. (Gregory G. P. Hunt, M.D., B.Sc., F.R.C.P., Chapter 18 - Ellen White and Miscellaneous Nonsense, Beware This Cult!, http://www.ellenwhite.org/btc/btc18.htm)

Adventists don’t just watch “movies”, they also produce and distribute them. Like the 2007 production “Christmas at Cadillac Jack’s“. It just happens to have been the Adventist North American Division’s Christmas show. Click here for more information. This seems to be the hottest action in Deadwood, South Dakota!

Its a “dramatic Christmas program produced by the North American Division”. Not a real story, but fiction. Sure the Adventists’ previous prophet speaks against this, but since when have these people troubled themselves over what that prophet says?

Even fiction which contains no suggestion of impurity, and which may be intended to teach excellent principles, is harmful. It encourages the habit of hasty and superficial reading, merely for the story. Thus it tends to destroy the power of connected and vigorous thought; it unfits the soul to contemplate the great problems of duty and destiny. (Ellen G. White, Counsels to Parents, Teachers, and Students, p 383)

According to the Adventists’ previous prophet, their church is putting out harmful films which “destroy the power of connected and vigorous thought”.

This may be welcome for all party-goers who are totally stressed out. Don’t forget that there are free cocktails for all gamblers!

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March 2, 2008

Excellent books on Divine knowledge, for all the levels of spiritual aspirants including scientists and atheist

by @ 1:53 pm. Filed under general

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February 26, 2008

Adventist University Discovers Cure for Aging

by @ 4:41 pm. Filed under fun, general, humor, religion, science

The Adventists are building a new wellness center on the campus of their university. The university is blessed with a forward-looking management team, and they are in laboratory trials for a cure for aging.

Don Juan Ponce de Leon was looking around in Florida in 1513 for a fountain of youth. Little did he know he should have been looking for “cookies of youth” instead of a “fountain of youth”.

The research professor (pictured above, click to enlarge) “is constantly searching for ways to make her cookies healthier”. She uses margarine, sugar, eggs, baking soda, and white flour in her anti-aging cookies (ingredients at left, click to enlarge). The professor makes a batch of 288 of these special cookies at a time, and they are quickly snapped up!

The experiments have gone well. According to this eminent scientist, students experience a “calming” and “rejuvenating” effect on eating these wonder cookies.

With the research breakthroughs at the Adventist university, the wellness center will be booked solid. If these cookies really do “rejuvenate” (to make youthful), as the research professor claims, the world will be standing in line.

This is probably the first scientific study in which cookies actually make people younger!

source:

http://adventistsnotcult.blogspot.com/2008/01/priming-pump.html

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February 19, 2008

Akron and Canton Mayors Endorse Hillary Clinton

by @ 8:29 am. Filed under general

The mayors of Akron and Canton, Ohio, anchors of the old Ohio industry, have endorsed Hillary Clinton for president. They know Clinton is the one to bring the industrial majesty back to the Buckeye State. Akron and Canton are also anchors of rural Ohio, and as a rural American I know I appreciate Hillary Clinton’s plan to revitalize America’s rural areas with reinvestment projects and country-of-origin labeling that will stop our local products from having to compete with cheap foreign-made substitutes.

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February 14, 2008

Sinfest FISA pt. 2

by @ 4:13 pm. Filed under American Patriots, Be Afraid, Broken Taboo, Democratic Losers, Outrages, Republican Heroes, ethics, fun, general, homeland insecurity, humor, legislation, liberty, politics

Sinfest pokin' fun at FISA

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February 12, 2008

Sinfest FISA

by @ 7:09 pm. Filed under Be Afraid, Broken Taboo, Democratic Losers, Outrages, Republican Heroes, activism, ethics, fun, general, homeland insecurity, humor, legislation, liberty

FISA, anyone?

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January 24, 2008

Senate Delays Eavesdropping Vote

by @ 9:31 pm. Filed under American Patriots, Be Afraid, Outrages, activism, election 2008, ethics, general, homeland insecurity, legislation, liberty, politics

En lieu of the recent posts on the main blog about the FISA ordeal, I thought I should share this little story I came across when I logged on to Yahoor today.

(Link)

Senate delays eavesdropping vote
By PAMELA HESS, Associated Press Writer2 hours, 39 minutes ago

The Senate on Thursday signaled support for granting legal immunity to telecommunications companies that helped the government conduct warrantless eavesdropping, a sign that the contentious provision may be headed for approval next week.

On a strong 60-36 vote, senators rejected an amendment that would have killed the immunity provision and strengthened the powers of a secret court to oversee the surveillance of phone calls and e-mails that involve people inside the United States.

Further action on the legislation was delayed until Monday, pushing Congress closer to a Feb. 1 deadline for enacting a new law. If a new law is not signed by the president by then, some eavesdropping practices that are now legal would be prohibited.

The Bush administration is insisting that any new law also protect from potentially crippling civil lawsuits those telecommunications companies that helped the government eavesdrop on Americans after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, R-Nev., blamed Republicans for the delay, saying they were trying to block a series of amendments majority Democrats sought to offer.

“It appears the president and Republicans want failure. They don’t want a bill,” Reid said.

The draft bill, written by the Senate Intelligence Committee, would update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The law, first enacted in 1978, dictates when federal agents must obtain court permission before tapping phone and computer lines inside the United States to gather intelligence on foreign threats. Agents may tap lines outside the country without court oversight.

It was the second time in six weeks the Senate had taken up the FISA modernization bill, only to see action stymied. Reid abruptly closed down debate in December when it became clear the Senate couldn’t finish work before the holiday break.

Most vexing to the intelligence agencies, without an extension of the law the government would return to needing individual court orders to listen in on any communication that passes through U.S. telecommunications switches and computer servers — even those that are between people who are outside the country. This is not required by FISA, according to legal experts, but became the practice over time to provide firms with legal protections.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, and Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., on Thursday proposed extending the existing law for 30 days to buy the Senate additional time to produce a bill. The House completed its version of the bill last fall.

In a move to resolve the immunity issue, the key impasse on the legislation, the White House ended months of resistance Thursday and agreed to give House members access to secret documents about its warrantless wiretapping program.

The Bush administration is trying to persuade the House to agree to retroactively shield from liability those companies that helped the government eavesdrop on Americans without the approval of the FISA court. About 40 such civil lawsuits are pending against telecommunications firms, and the administration says if the cases go forward they could reveal information that would compromise national security. It also contends that the companies could be bankrupted if the lawsuits are successful.

The companies were helping the administration carry out the so-called Terrorist Surveillance Program, a still-classified effort that intercepted communications on U.S. soil without oversight from the FISA court from Sept. 11, 2001, to Jan. 17, 2007.

Reyes and Rep. Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, the top Republican on the House intelligence panel, requested access to the White House documents in May. House Democrats say they will not support telecom immunity without seeing them first. Some senators were given access to the documents last fall.

The documents include the president’s authorization of warrantless wiretapping, Justice Department legal opinions going back to 2001, and the requests sent to the telecommunications companies asking for their assistance.

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