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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2004/12/13/killing-three-years/comment-page-2/#comment-35962</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 03:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finding your websight was like finding a needle in a haystack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finding your websight was like finding a needle in a haystack.</p>
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		<title>By: HareTrinity</title>
		<link>http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2004/12/13/killing-three-years/comment-page-2/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>HareTrinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What it sounded like I meant, Kevin. It was mild sarcasm with inquiring whether or not you change your mind about whether or not you&#039;re a Bush supporter, and if that was why you were unsure of why I asked you how you could support something as horrible as the war in Iraq.

Even indirectly. Not as if you&#039;re actively taking part, to my knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What it sounded like I meant, Kevin. It was mild sarcasm with inquiring whether or not you change your mind about whether or not you&#8217;re a Bush supporter, and if that was why you were unsure of why I asked you how you could support something as horrible as the war in Iraq.</p>
<p>Even indirectly. Not as if you&#8217;re actively taking part, to my knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D.</title>
		<link>http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2004/12/13/killing-three-years/comment-page-2/#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, bother. Comment #16 doesn&#039;t refer to the wedding thing at all, but rather Fallujah. Sorry to add to the confusion. Peregrin Wood was using events connected with the invasion of &lt;i&gt;Fallujah&lt;/i&gt; as examples of chaos. The wedding story doesn&#039;t actually play into this at all, except maybe as a bonus example of chaos. 

For events surrounding Fallujah, I&#039;m sure there are plenty of &quot;news&quot; sources you can check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, bother. Comment #16 doesn&#8217;t refer to the wedding thing at all, but rather Fallujah. Sorry to add to the confusion. Peregrin Wood was using events connected with the invasion of <i>Fallujah</i> as examples of chaos. The wedding story doesn&#8217;t actually play into this at all, except maybe as a bonus example of chaos. </p>
<p>For events surrounding Fallujah, I&#8217;m sure there are plenty of &#8220;news&#8221; sources you can check.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 03:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;News links,&quot; in quotes? The BBC, Guardian, and Sunday Herald are &quot;news&quot;?

Having reread the earlier postings, I see now that there is NO link from the wedding story to the &quot;mercy killing&quot; story. I misread something earlier and thought that such a link was being implied. Actually, the wedding story was an example of the chaos the war has created in Iraq. See comment #16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;News links,&#8221; in quotes? The BBC, Guardian, and Sunday Herald are &#8220;news&#8221;?</p>
<p>Having reread the earlier postings, I see now that there is NO link from the wedding story to the &#8220;mercy killing&#8221; story. I misread something earlier and thought that such a link was being implied. Actually, the wedding story was an example of the chaos the war has created in Iraq. See comment #16.</p>
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		<title>By: LaKesha</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaKesha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 02:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read some of those &quot;news links&quot;.  I saw a couple of them that referenced each other.  It still seems like there is a lot of disagreement about what exactly happened.  I skimmed, but I didn&#039;t see any that actually said what P. Wood said above, but I may have missed that quote, or he may be remembering it differently.  I don&#039;t doubt that many sad mistakes have occured there, but what is the link from that story to this?  That there was no justice in those either?  There was no trial either, so that might be difficult. Not every statement made by an Iraqi is believable, just like a soldier.

I don&#039;t defend any actions that soldiers do in Iraq.  Nor do I defend the suicide bombers, the snipers, the torturers, the kidnappers, or the beheaders.  If snipers are firing on you, that is dangerous and soldiers shoot back.  Sometimes they may hit the wrong target.  But if no one was attacking them, I doubt they would be strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up innocent Iraqis. That is the difference.
They are not trying to do evil things to people without first being acted upon.  

Wood makes many statements subject to questioning for accuracy.
His own website partner, J. Matthew, said this about one of his
earlier Iraq war statements: &quot;I hate it when one messed up liberal does something stupid &quot;  That says a lot when your own people condem you for making arguments that are false, overly general, and full of hyperbole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read some of those &#8220;news links&#8221;.  I saw a couple of them that referenced each other.  It still seems like there is a lot of disagreement about what exactly happened.  I skimmed, but I didn&#8217;t see any that actually said what P. Wood said above, but I may have missed that quote, or he may be remembering it differently.  I don&#8217;t doubt that many sad mistakes have occured there, but what is the link from that story to this?  That there was no justice in those either?  There was no trial either, so that might be difficult. Not every statement made by an Iraqi is believable, just like a soldier.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t defend any actions that soldiers do in Iraq.  Nor do I defend the suicide bombers, the snipers, the torturers, the kidnappers, or the beheaders.  If snipers are firing on you, that is dangerous and soldiers shoot back.  Sometimes they may hit the wrong target.  But if no one was attacking them, I doubt they would be strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up innocent Iraqis. That is the difference.<br />
They are not trying to do evil things to people without first being acted upon.  </p>
<p>Wood makes many statements subject to questioning for accuracy.<br />
His own website partner, J. Matthew, said this about one of his<br />
earlier Iraq war statements: &#8220;I hate it when one messed up liberal does something stupid &#8221;  That says a lot when your own people condem you for making arguments that are false, overly general, and full of hyperbole.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, if you mean, do I recycle lines of mine in different posts, I suppose I am guilty of that offense every once in awhile.  

Uh, if you mean do I alternate my support of Bush with every post then I say it depends on what issue you&#039;re talking about.  I&#039;ve said before that I don&#039;t agree with everything that Republicans stand for, nor do I disagree with everything other parties stand for.

Uh, if you mean did I think it was strange to be mentioned in a thread I have refrained from pariticipating in, then yeah, it was a little strange... 

Uh, what did you mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, if you mean, do I recycle lines of mine in different posts, I suppose I am guilty of that offense every once in awhile.  </p>
<p>Uh, if you mean do I alternate my support of Bush with every post then I say it depends on what issue you&#8217;re talking about.  I&#8217;ve said before that I don&#8217;t agree with everything that Republicans stand for, nor do I disagree with everything other parties stand for.</p>
<p>Uh, if you mean did I think it was strange to be mentioned in a thread I have refrained from pariticipating in, then yeah, it was a little strange&#8230; </p>
<p>Uh, what did you mean?</p>
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		<title>By: HareTrinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>HareTrinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I just knew you were a Bush supporter. Do you alternate that with every post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I just knew you were a Bush supporter. Do you alternate that with every post?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kevin and others; seriously, how can you value masses of human life as being below government?!?&quot; 

Comment by HareTrinity Ã¢â‚¬â€ 12/16/2004 @ 7:02 pm

WOW!  I must have made an impression (good or bad- probably more of the latter) on someone if my name is mentioned in a thread I have yet to participate in thus far.  Now THAT&#039;S pretty cool!

Yeehaw!  Does this up my status or something???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kevin and others; seriously, how can you value masses of human life as being below government?!?&#8221; </p>
<p>Comment by HareTrinity Ã¢â‚¬â€ 12/16/2004 @ 7:02 pm</p>
<p>WOW!  I must have made an impression (good or bad- probably more of the latter) on someone if my name is mentioned in a thread I have yet to participate in thus far.  Now THAT&#8217;S pretty cool!</p>
<p>Yeehaw!  Does this up my status or something???</p>
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		<title>By: Umber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Debbie, read the original article here on Irregular Times about the invasion of Fallujah, and you&#039;ll read that the source that you&#039;re so loudly demanding has already been supplied by Irregular Times.  An Associated Press photographer witnessed and reported the scene.  He saw a family of 5 gunned down, shot in the backs while they were trying to get out of the way of the American destruction of the city.  What, do you think the Associated Press is a liberal wacko organization too, now?

And LaKesha, clear this up for me: Are you still just kidding about everything that you&#039;re saying, or are you serious now, and if you say you&#039;re serious now, how do we know that you&#039;re now kidding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Debbie, read the original article here on Irregular Times about the invasion of Fallujah, and you&#8217;ll read that the source that you&#8217;re so loudly demanding has already been supplied by Irregular Times.  An Associated Press photographer witnessed and reported the scene.  He saw a family of 5 gunned down, shot in the backs while they were trying to get out of the way of the American destruction of the city.  What, do you think the Associated Press is a liberal wacko organization too, now?</p>
<p>And LaKesha, clear this up for me: Are you still just kidding about everything that you&#8217;re saying, or are you serious now, and if you say you&#8217;re serious now, how do we know that you&#8217;re now kidding?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2004 02:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for digging up the sources, Pauly. I do remember hearing about it, now that I see the articles. If that was the event being referred to, it doesn&#039;t appear to me that it is actually connected with the &quot;mercy killing.&quot; One was in May, the other in August.

Debbie and LaKesha, if you would like to take this as evidence that Peregrin Wood was trying to sway opinion in some way (unless or until he decides to clarify what incident he might have meant or whether he was mistaken or whatever) that is your prerogative. 

However, as HareTrinity suggests, all this flap about who wrote what or how seems kind of trivial when set against two incidents (just two out of however many) where American troops fired upon and killed unarmed civilians, including children. The same day or months apart, does it really make a difference? 

If these events don&#039;t make it crystal clear what a tragic disaster this war is, I suspect nothing will.

(And yes, any number of incidents could be furnished in which Iraqis did evil things to American citizens, or citizens of other nations. Violence begets violence begets violence. My conclusion remains the same: it is a tragic, disastrous mistake for us to be there.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for digging up the sources, Pauly. I do remember hearing about it, now that I see the articles. If that was the event being referred to, it doesn&#8217;t appear to me that it is actually connected with the &#8220;mercy killing.&#8221; One was in May, the other in August.</p>
<p>Debbie and LaKesha, if you would like to take this as evidence that Peregrin Wood was trying to sway opinion in some way (unless or until he decides to clarify what incident he might have meant or whether he was mistaken or whatever) that is your prerogative. </p>
<p>However, as HareTrinity suggests, all this flap about who wrote what or how seems kind of trivial when set against two incidents (just two out of however many) where American troops fired upon and killed unarmed civilians, including children. The same day or months apart, does it really make a difference? </p>
<p>If these events don&#8217;t make it crystal clear what a tragic disaster this war is, I suspect nothing will.</p>
<p>(And yes, any number of incidents could be furnished in which Iraqis did evil things to American citizens, or citizens of other nations. Violence begets violence begets violence. My conclusion remains the same: it is a tragic, disastrous mistake for us to be there.)</p>
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