Eventually, every religious believer must come fact to face with something truly frightening: The facts.
So it is that, a few weeks after initially reporting on the case of Nepal’s so-called Buddha Boy, Ram Bomjon, who claims to have been sitting without eating, drinking, or otherwise moving at all for over six months, I have a few facts that his believers must confront:
Fact 1: Both of these photographs are pictures of Ram Bomjon, taken at different times.
Fact 2: These photographs show Ram Bomjon in different positions.
Fact 3: The only way for a person to go from one position to another is to move.
Look at the hand pointing down in the two pictures. It’s in a different place. Then, look at his other hand, which is invisible, perhaps under the cover, in one photograph, but in prominent sight right under Ram Bomjon’s chin. No difference in camera angle can explain these changes in position.
Then what about the foot that is bare in one photograph, but not bare in the other? Are we to believe that Ram Bomjon used his super Rimpoche powers to move his cover telepathically?
Perhaps Ram Bomjon’s assistants moved the cover for him, but to do so, they would have had to move his arm as well, and that would be pretty disturbing to any meditation. At least, that’s what Ram Bomjon’s inner circle of handlers tells everyone – no one is allowed to get close to or touch Ram Bomjon because to do so would disturb his meditation. They wouldn’t let a team of physicians even get within 15 feet of him, for fear breaking the meditation.
Everything about this Ram Bomjon Buddha Boy story smells fishy – like fish that have been sitting untouched for six months, to be specific. I know that people want an example to believe in, but when belief is given in the context of contradictory facts, that belief goes beyond blind faith. It becomes faith that refuses to see.
hey azz, don’t pave your path to hell unnecessarily like this.
You could think of your dad as satan before accusing the meditating boy as what your
ignorant mind have to say. Leave the boy alone. Even if you are not able to appreciate what others have accomplished, at least make it a point not to go against them when they have done nothing wrong to you.
That’s why people like you need those Jihadis to bomb your dirty azzes.
I am sorry I have to say this. This is especially to that son of satan who falsely have wriiten his nick as ‘Follower of Buddhist Philosophy’. Better watch your satan dad at night than to tell here to watch the Buddha boy at night. You could figure out more interesting facts in your own house. Check out babe!
hello all ! , the moving of the boy is not important at all…meditating does not stop you from being able to move, there is no challenge like not moving…the aim is not to freeze, but to reach a higher state of consciousness…so going into details like “oh look he moved, I could see it , I’m so clever”, is really the nirvana of stupidity, lol !!! now, how meditation works ? the thoughts will slow down, (thoughts relate to past and future, which are either already gone, or not yet there ! ) and the consciousness expand in the present and become limitless, and this is just a start I guess… then the human entity connect to energies that supply whatever is needed…I see it as he gets connected to the cause of the universe itself…if that happens truly (which is the only real question !!!), then all the rest means nothing…
For myself, despite the fact you must keep a scientific approach, I have great hope that the happening is true… may be some have done it before, but nowadays at the time of the medias, if it is established before the cameras that it is possible to go beyond the material reality, then humanity will gain a lot…after all it could prove also that the deeds of Christ were real… !!! and that all religions came from the same reality…, so why fight ???
watch out ! …any questions you have I will try to answer…
any question, I’ll try to answer…
Bruno why clifforrd against all religions he claims that ram bomjon is Anti Christ he uses the name of born angain Chrirstian. is he destructive Atheist or constructive Atheist? or someone behind him to do these job just to get figth for all religious faith? What do you think? just go down to the level of these reality.
even though he moves or not that’s not the point here.
Many people says these and that about the meditation boy, ram bomjan, what you people will get from this for agreeing or not? No one will benefit anything from this, if he complete his meditation successfully will benefit for the whole world and for all sient beings and not only for you people who write un ncessary words about his meditation. So whether his meditation is true or not so please try to understand ourselves instead of disturbing all.
hello anti clifford, don’t you have a name of your own ?
(sorry Clifford I dont mean that for you , don’t take it personnaly, i don’t know you, but I am answering to “anticlifford”, lol)
the answer to your question, a great seer gave it 400 years ago I think…Kabir wrote about religions, he said that religions are all flowers of the same tree of life, but humans plugged them out of the tree saying this is mine, that is mine..the flowers died and religions became disconnected from god and that’s why people fight for religion physically or intellectually…they don’t see that religions came from the same source, as messages sent to humanity at different points of our evolution…by this fighting, they are doing the greatest harm to god and the greatest harm to true religion …so the guy who is saying about other religions that they are the anti Christ blah blah blah, may be he is himself the real anti Christ, lol !! If Christ would come back now to help him, he would not easily recognize him, so closed he is to “other” religions….may be he would kill him again !
OK sry, I cant keep serious …. don’t know if that make any sense Anticlifford ?
also remember if somebody use this word of antichrist, then he’s no atheist… !!
also thx Norbu Tenzin for what you wrote, it’s very wise I think you got the central point !!!
other questions ?
hello,people,I understood about this boy from a newspraper,
which is published in my own country -Bulgaria.So I belive that all this may be true,and why not…Why do we have to belive only in the bad things in the world,only in wars,in natural disasters,why not in something beautiful like this,I truly hope this boy will complite his work,and he will get to the lightening.I’m christian,but though I belive that religion is one word,and not 10 different..Gods,and beleifes are different,because of what a nations traditions are…or I don’t now why,but I think medditation in the name of peace is something extremely positive,and honest,I was so happy when I read the artical in that newspaper,and wven more,when I find info ot the net,so I’m with Ram Bonjor in my thougnts..;)
Bruno dont say sorry if you think youre right, the man of rightousness doesnt have fear to say the truth
be a man of your words.you have your own way of understanding and i have mine, so im not fighting anyone here im just being naked i dont want people to be lured by evil minded manipulators Theres no such religion higher than truth. No more question for you bruno, your words reflects to your personality. Im Anti Clifford and that is my Identity. Peace be with you.
Plamena you have strong belief keep it up.
Good grief. Has everyone nitpicked enough (not just on the kid but on each other as well)? There seems to be enough intolerance to go around all sides of the discussion.
As far as I can tell, we have a situation where a kid decided to follow his religious convictions. These things happen in all faiths. He went a bit overboard (which also happens on all faiths), in fact he is out of step with the Buddha’s teaching of the Middle Way, and it has been turned into a media circus. There have been huge mischaracterizations of his claims (the kid has only claimed that he is not Buddha, as far as is reported, and that’s a claim that is correct). Buddhism teaches the way of non-extremes. Siddartha Gautama tried sensory indulgence and then ascetism, and turned away from both as they were insufficient to resolve all of his questions about life and to achieve liberation. This young man (or his followers) seems to have embraced a form of asceticism.
His “followers” or “handlers” have reportedly made claims that are frankly untenable, such as that he has not eaten or moved in months. He’d be dead if that were true, either from starvation and dehydration or from massive pressure ulcers that would be severely infected in short order. Buddhist meditation does not exempt one from the laws of nature. Logically, however, it is not necessarily the case that the boy is a fraud even if those around him are. He may indeed be sincerely meditating (although if this is the case, he’d probably be better off leaving in the middle of the night like he left home, to get some peace and quiet).
One last point. There is no reincarnation in Buddhism as there is no self or soul to be reincarnated. The term is “rebirth” and it’s more like recycling than reincarnation. Calling the boy the reincarnation of anyone- the Buddha or various other historical Buddhist figures is incorrect and contradictory to core Buddhist teachings. See for example “The Heart of the Buddha’s Teaching” by Thich Nhat Hanh.
Nice job not nit-picking there Tim Mac.
Is that a mote in your eye…
Mr. Tim Mac I think Tim hortons is a good coffee Mackdonald is good Hamburger for a cheap buyers of those products, i think scotch on the rock is good for alcoholic practioner. those unhealty products dont give it to Ram Banjan cuz he doesnt eat meat and doesnt drink alcohol so he doesnt eat and drink to. you guys are narrow minded you under estimated the capability of human strength you have to research more. all you have to know is to eat drink and have sex, thats animal life, playing clever yeah right. ived got a goosed bumps with your convictions, thats totally plastic.
he symbolizes the need in all of us for Hope. whether he be real or not, in our heart we wish this is another indication that there are reasons behind this worldly chaos.
just like a flower budding through the long enduring winter snow.
The Dalai Lama claims he is the Nth reincarnation of something – do you guys believe that? does he at 3am, confronted with himself and the truth, believe that? or does his mere presence symbolizes something larger than himself or his followers?
Yes: a fiction that comforts some. Don’t be surprised that others neither find it comforting nor wish to refrain from calling it a fiction.
The news today is that Bomjon has disappeared:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4797064.stm
You CAN meditate whilst moving. I have been meditating for 16 years. And I’ve eaten nothing in all that time. Can you prove I haven’t? Does this mean I’m special? Send cheques to me now.
If X were true, that would make me happy; therefore I believe X to be true.
This is a description of the frailty of human psychology, not an argument for the veracity of X.
This is a problem, not an answer.
Show me ONE rational argument that demonstrates that hope is a reliable indicator of truth.
Thanks for the link TM.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if he never turned up again. Imagine the mythology that could grow up round him then.
yo everyone
this kid is the real buddha. he si the reincarantion of buddha and christ. he will spread the message of peace and sage of peace and love between mankind and animals. he is from nepal where real buddha was born before 2500 years. he has been not eating for 10 months and medtating. can a normal human do that in this corrupt world. he is tryong to make the world a better place to live.
what we need is desirelessness.
Here is that example in this boy.
Those who look for god, buddha, or any other diety is desperate for answers or questioning there faith or has fear or is prejudice. God is within and without. something to think about.
if this boy is the reincarnation of Buddha and after you become Buddha you can not be reincarnated how is this possible.
Buddha aslo said “when you find the Buddha kill the Buddha”
meaning anyone?
do we really need god to appear, are we not in his image?
Do we really need a child to sit in silence to create peace.
should not we all profess and act in peace?
Aren’t we shrugging our own responsibility to create peace by leaving it
in the hands of those we deem gods.
If you want peace says the dali lama, you must act in peace walk in peace become the peace and change you want to create.
By flocking to those who we see as “the one” we place ourselves in precarious positions.
If we are all god and in his image and our bodies are our temples. We have already found him, the questions we need answered are already within.
Maybe we should all be sitting under a tree.
Like the parable of the person who spent much time to arive high upon a mountain to ask a great guru the meaning of life only to be told, “like is a bowl of cherries and my hemroids are killing me, now you can leave”
Buddha boy is cute. If he hasn’t eaten in months, then he hasn’t shit in months, so his little teenage boy butthole must be so clean and tight! He’d be the bottom-boy fuck of the century. I would shoot so much cum up his ass. (Or does that count as nourishment?)
Dear all,
I’m glad Bomjon left his tree yesterday! (If he didnt get abducted). That way he shows the world that he doesn’t need to PROVE anything to anyone as he’s probably sick of being stared at the way he is now. This man is doing a fantastic job, bringing peace to his region without asking for ANYTHING in return, for God sake LET HIM BE, period.
RPDC that is only part of your negative illusioned period.
Everyone is looking in the wrong places. The kid is at the nearest McDonalds. duh
Yow Do you know the meaning of Two hands clapping?
I dont wanna share it to you cuz your not worth it.
There is a lot more information and links to info at this URL:
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2006/03/21/ram-bomjon-video/
Why can’t I see the photos? Huh?
OMG….. from the many comments given above, I can’t help but have the impression that there are still many people who are ignorant about the faith called “Buddhism” and the practice of meditation itself. I would suggest that one should aquaint oneself first with these two subjects, and having obtained some general knowledge of these two subjects, then make your comments. As such, as least your comments would then show that you know what you are talking about.
You DO know what OMG is short for, right?
I know a bit about buddhism. I do not think buddha carried the sword in his hand to protect himself, if he would have then he would never be a buddha. If someone is in deep mediation then how can he know tiger or whatever is coming to kill him. I am not saying that everything is false. Even to sit down for 12 hours a day in itself is acheivement for this boy. I try to do lot of meditation and whenever I am in doing good, I have no sense. Nothing exist, not even me.It is addictive but at same time very hard to maintian a deep level as you do not realise that you are in deep meditation till it kind of breaks to bit lighter level and you realise that you have just been through a deep one.
One thing I do not understand is why people get excited when they see or hear such things. Science itself is the most limited. If it cannot find something or explain something then it just says it is supernatural. Till 1992 scientists of the world said there is no bio cells detected on the flights they sent to space and recently they claim that it ever existed on the space just that they did not have enough tools to find it out.
Law of Karma does work. If one is succesful buddha then he had those accumulated karmas of various lives which gives that person an opportunity and enviroment to meditate and liberate. Everyone has right to be buddha but beware of Hoax.
for your information, there is a documentary of this boy where you see that he recieves attention from his family who are able to cover him with a blanket when they get afraid that it is too cold.
first of all, who are we to judge to anybody’s faith i believe in this buddha he will bring change.action speak louder than words and his action is certainly proving it and people who think its fake and unreal well they just can keep their ignorant opinion with themselves those peole who cannot be successful or do something in their life they always comment on others who are trying to do better
Im sick of christians calling this an anti-christ movement by Ram Bomjon. Who are you to judge wether people go to hell or heaven? A normal sane decent human being who isnt christian goes to hell? Oh please.. look whos being evil here. There are other religions out there and they are not satanism in anyway. Stop being ignorant. Ignorance is the cause of fights and wars. Racial and religious harmony is the way to go… Please open up your eyes once in awhile.
Im also sick of idiots who are extremely skeptical about him. Many people have already filmed him for days and it was proven that he did not need water or food to survive at the moment. If you cant explain things, just dont be a skeptical idiot just because u cant find an explanation for it. Just accept the known facts.. and if you cant handle the facts just ignore it and stop questioning other people’s faith and religion out of ill intentions to defame another.
You had me at “if you dont believe you are stupid”.
Buddha Boy, I meditated with the Buddha, I knew the Buddha, the Buddha was a friend of mine. Buddha Boy, you’re no Buddha!
I think this writer should get his facts straight and learn to view things in DIFFERENT perspectives. Only then will the writing and arguments be better.
I want to see if what he does if he ever does reach enlightenment how will he face the world what will he do, he can’t just sit there forever and once he stops meditating his life is going to be under complete scrutiny so anything wrong he does will make people think he hasn’t reached enlightenment and therefore a fake. But if you claim to be a buddha you have to reach nirvana I don’t think this boy has done that yet yes I agree it’s weird to think someone has been meditating day and night without food or water without moving and I think there is some deception going on but I do believe that that poor kid just sitting there pretty much the whole day. There is all this pressure on him now and I honestly don’t think he is the buddha he doesn’t look like the buddha look at his face he looks high all the time