Is Hillary Clinton a Communist? The evidence…

Mother Davis gets off the telephone with Mikhail Gorbachev just in time to write,

Every now and then, I like to take a little trip into Red State America, to see how the other half thinks. It’s always an amusing experience for me, kind of like visiting an ideological theme park with Tilt-A-Whirl loops of rhetoric, with unexpected turns of logic that produce cheap little thrills.

So it was that, yesterday, I wandered on over to a Republican web site that sells anti-liberal t-shirts. Like most Republican web sites (remember Right Wing Stuff?), this one had a boring, unimaginative name: Those Shirts. It’s called Those Shirts because it sells, shirts, see?

communist hillary clintonI hate to let a little unoriginality in language deter me, though, because I find that if I spend even just a little time in Republican territory, things get interesting pretty quickly. At Those Shirts, I was rewarded very quickly, with the t-shirt design that you see right here: Re-defeat Communism 2008, it reads, with a slash across a picture of Senator Hillary Clinton.

I’m not making this up. The Republicans apparently still believe that they are the brave ones, fighting the Cold War against the impending communist threat that we liberals are just to starry-eyed to see. Communism needs defeating, apparently, and to defeat communism, the Republicans say, we need to defeat Hillary Clinton.

Well, is it true? Is Hillary Clinton a communist? I need to know, because we here at Irregular Times have our very own little capitalist shop of Hillary Clinton t-shirts. I wanted to be sure that we are not inadvertently advocating Bolshevist ideology, so, I took a look at some of Senator Clinton’s recent votes to try to measure the extent of her allegiance with the American Communist Campaign Committee for Evil.

Last year, Senator Clinton supported a filibuster of the most extreme aspects of the Patriot Act, in order to try to stop the government from spying on American citizens. In the communist Soviet Union, you see, the government was not allowed to spy against its citizens, and that was what was wrong with the Soviet Union.

Senator Clinton voted in favor of legislation to create a commission to investigate instances of torture by the U.S. government, and voted against a Republican bill that tried to take habeas corpus rights away from people taken prisoner by the American government. The communist Viet Cong, you see, were always trying to stop torture of prisoners from taking place, and that’s why we had to fight against them in Vietnam. Dirty, rotten, torture-hating commmies!

Hillary Clinton also voted for legislation that would have made it illegal for the government to use public funds to create propaganda. For me, this is the clincher. Fidel Castro, one of the world’s last communist leaders, is always going around refusing to allow his government from engaging in acts of propaganda. That anti-propaganda stand by communist Cuba is one of the reasons that we need to keep our embargo of Cuba in effect. How can the people of Cuba ever become free if they can’t read government propaganda?

By gum, the Republicans are right! I want to sincerely, without any sarcasm at all, thank the right-thinking people over at Those Shirts for helping to educate me about the new communist threat coming from the office of Senator Hillary Redham Clinton! Why, if we don’t stop these Clinton commies, soon, we’ll all be living in a country without any propaganda, torture or government spying against peaceful citizens!

And to think – I was just moments away from becoming a communist dupe.

Putting down her sickle and star,
Mother Davis

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203 Responses to Is Hillary Clinton a Communist? The evidence…

  1. Neocon says:

    In reference to Ralph, you are so naive. Communism is not embodied in just the Soviet Union, Cuba, Vietnam, N. Korea, Venezuela, etc. It is an ecomomic and political system devised by Karl Marx in which the state tells how much is produced, who produces it, where it is to be sent, how much it will cost, etc. In other words, decisions about everything from health care to steel production and everything inbetween are made by the gov’t that bureaucrats, and has never worked anywhere it has been tried. Big gov’t mimics socialism, communism, marxism, whatever you want to call it. Marxism is not a state and is a concept, an ideology. Unfortunately, you don’t understand the bridge between big gov’t / state control and communism…they are quite similar.

    Although I don’t agree with Mr. Bush on everything, he is trying to protect you from a bunch of religious psychos who don’t really know you but would like to kill you, your children, your parents, your aunts, your uncles, your grandparents, your pets, you get the idea. I personally don’t care if Mr. Bush and his minions listen to me discuss with my wife what I need to pick up for dinner on the way home, and that’s the truth of it, and he’s not listening to me and you anyway.

    I guarantee you, you will not like what Hillary would deliver if she is elected. You people, the democrats and your ideology are nothing but willing accomplices to the islamo – fascists who want to cut your heads off.

    6. Ralph said…

    Nice try, Nate. But this isn’t about Communism as an abstract idea or ideology, it’s about the Soviet Union and its real-life policies, which parallel Bush’s in a number of real ways.

    Things like intruding into people’s personal lives, muzzling dissenters, suppressing science that contradicted official ideology, aggressive military actions, disguising government propaganda as news, etc. aren’t necessarily a part of communist economic theory. But they were absolutely central to the way the government od the Soviet Union operated.

    And Bush is doing the same thing

  2. Iroquois says:

    “Islamo-fascists”, again.

    I smell a campaign with somebody else’s talking points.

    “a bunch of religious psychos who don’t really know you but would like to kill you, your children, your parents, your aunts, your uncles, your grandparents, your pets, you get the idea.”

    An interesting assertion. Can you back it up, Neocon?

    I always wondered if the AFA wasn’t something like that.

  3. Neocon says:

    Iroquois,

    Back it up? Read the news, loser. I guess my talking points are just a “bumper sticker” to the John Edwards supporter. You are the scariest folks who don’t get it. What does the AFA have to do with any of this? What is so scary about traditional values? Folks like the AFA oppose folks like you who want to divide us and destroy the very fabric of the nation.

    Wow. You need some enlightenment.

  4. Wilson says:

    Who are these people who want to kill me and my pets, Neocon? Where is their webstite? How do I know they’re not imaginary? If it’s all over the news, as you claim, surely you can provide one tiny link that will prove waht you say?

  5. Neocon says:

    Hey, Wilson. Why don’t you listen to Usama Bin Laden, the President of Iran, Iman Al-Zawahiri, or anyone else who has railed against Western Civilization and how they’d like to destroy our way of life and kill us. You’ve probably never heard of the above mentioned folks, so I’m probably wasting my time trying to get your attention. If you happened to be watching the news during the 1990′s (you know, WTC Attack #1, African Embassy Bombings, USS Cole, and the big one on 9/11/01) you might see what I’m talking about. You’re probably so enthralled with your class warfare that you don’t see the threat coming to our very civilization. You know, your civil liberties won’t matter when you’re dead.

    Oh, that’s right. Bush – Cheney are responsible for 9/11 and all of those other attacks, so I’m just out of my mind. If Bush and Cheney really pulled off 9/11, how would they keep it a secret? You know the gov’t can’t keep any secrets. Do you think that they could keep that one any better than the others.

    Moron. The scary thing is that you folks are permitted to vote. Quit reading your union newsletter and pay attention, before you and your descendants are enslaved or dead.

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  7. Neocon says:

    There’s nothing absurd about it…if you understand what a communist is, you would understand why Hillary IS a communist, like many of the far – left, moveon.org democrats. How many lives have been lost fighting communism and we’ve got one running for the White House? Remember, it’s not a Soviet thing, it’s an ideology.

  8. Neocon says:

    …And I love the way “Mother Davis” takes some completely irrelevant actions of Hillary to use as examples to show that Hillary is “not” a communist. In fact, the Clintons’ “Project Echelon” was much more intrusive than what is going on right now. The Clinton Administration actually would listen to the content of phone calls, whereas the Bush administration is only looking for “suspicious” patterns of calls (you know, terrorists IN America calling their terror boss elsewhere in the world, presumably the Middle East to get directives, etc), then home in on the call patterns that seemed to be more relevant to national security, you know, the calls that matter and to heck with the rest of the calls irrelevant to national security. The Bush administration could care less about you and your spouse discussing what to pick up for dinner. The Clintons were doing this to their political enemies to keep track of them so that they could plan their next political move in order to stay in power. Mr. Bush is, like I said in a previous post, trying to protect you from people that are trying to kill you, your family, your pets, etc. The Clintons are out to obtain and stay in power, and even abuse that power in order to maintain and increase their position of power. See the difference?
    Communists DO NOT believe in free markets and believe that the gov’t can do anything better than the private sector. That leads me to a question that I would ask…If a corporation does not do something well…what happens to them? If you answered “they go out of business”, you are correct. Now, I know they don’t go out of business soon enough for any of our liking and some of us get screwed, but they get their due. My next question is…if the gov’t does not do something well (you know, the bureau of motor vehicles, public schools, etc!)…what happens to them? If you answered “they keep doing it poorly” or “they keep funding it more because they think that more funds will fix it” or something to that effect, you are right.
    There is no recourse for poor gov’t. They just keep doing whatever they’ve been doing wrong, and in the worse case, more of it and probably add another hapless program to fix it!
    That’s what liberals, socialists and communists (really all the same like the Clintons, liberal democrats, fundamentally) prescribe. More gov’t involvement usually doesn’t make things better.
    Now I know what you’re thinking, this guy is a capitalist freak. No, I agree that capitalism isn’t perfect and has some pretty big flaws. The global market place is definitely taking its toll on some American Mfg. jobs. However, if I owned a corporation and knew that America was the 2nd highest country for taxation (which it is), I’d look overseas not just for labor, but also to find a lower tax rate.
    The big myth is that socialism can work if we just find the right formula, just the right level of taxation or take only from the rich so the rest of us aren’t taxed, etc. The big truth is that liberalism, socialism, communism has never worked and there’s a whole bunch of shining examples of it that libs in America fail to see. Liberals politicians just think that we haven’t done enough of it. Another myth about liberal politicians is that they are compassionate. They like to appear that way when they compare themselves to conservatives, who are portrayed as uncaring for the poor, loving the rich by lowering taxes on the rich, war mongers, etc. The truth is that libs just love power, especially by inflicting high tax rates on the population so that they control the economy, rather than the people who have no control over the economy because all the money has been taken out their hands. Conservatives are generally hands off and want to stay out of your life and wallet as well.
    Just look to Europe. France has chosen against socialism. So has Sweden just recently. We’ve got it good here. Please trust me, Hillary may be a citizen, but she is not and American. She is a student of Saul Alinsky and would love to transform America into her little socialist hell.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

    Why is she suppressing her records from being first lady of Little Rock and the White House? What is she hiding? She has accused Bush of being secretive and promises to have the most open administraton in history. What a hypocrite.
    Do you really want a 1960’s radical in the White House…again? If you think things are bad now…and they aren’t…wait until you see what sort of ravage socialism brings to this land. Mark my word, you heard it here first. How can you complain about a 4.5 – ish unemployment? Poverty here in the US is wealth compared to poverty in other lands.
    I’m not crazy about conservatives / republicans, but I will take them any day over any member of the socialist democratic party. Socialism is un-American and the democratic party needs to be purged of them. The rest of the world calls our democratic party the “socialist party”. When are we going to call a spade a spade, and do them same here domestically?

  9. Ralph says:

    Sure Neo,

    Liberals, socialists and communists are “really all the same.”

    Just like conservatives, fascists and Nazis are “really all the same.”

    Empty alarmist rhetoric with no relationship to reality.

    That’s all you’ve got against Clinton? Good.

    Guess we liberals can start figuring out how to hold on to the White House after Obama’s second term ends in 2024.

  10. Iroquois says:

    Uh, Neo I was looking for one of your comments but now I can’t find it, probably it got lost when the website went down. It was about the role of oil. I think you said something like “the terrorism issue is all about oil”. That’s what Greenspan said too, but no one has been able to explain it to me.

    Doesn’t all the Middle East oil get sold to the expanding oil markets of China and India? So what does middle east oil have to do with us except for world price? And what does going to war buy for us as a nation? I get it that instability in the region raises the price of oil and creates windfall profits for oil companies, but what does it do for America?

    Historically, the European nations have divided up the middle eastern pie, leaving the U.S. out of the spoils until Standard Oil forced its way into that exclusive European club and got a slice. But isn’t colonialism way over and what are we doing there now?

  11. Joshua says:

    What do you call a person who is funded by Chinese Intelligence Agencies (China-gate), and was a former member of the board of the largest importer of Chinese goods to America (walmart), and whose husband signed the China Free Trade Bill? The Clinton’s are very pro-communism as long as they can make a dollar off of it…never mind the human rights violations and slavery…..

  12. Ferdinandi says:

    Joshua, China is as communist as Texas. Or, rather, China is as capitalist as Texas.

  13. Roger G says:

    The prime ethic of communism is redistribution of wealth via targeted tax (from each, according to his ability) and liberal expenditure of welfare (to each, according to his need) in order to facilitate a classless society in which the state controls the means of production and an end to provate ownership of property–creating an environment where capitalism cannot exist. In that vein, yes HRClinton is a communist.
    GWBush on the other hand is not a communist. He is a fascist. Compare the current administration’s social policies to those of Nazi Germany. “You are to do with as you please, so long as you conform to the norm (i.e. the administration’s idea of what should be normal and acceptable), and we will ensure enforcement of the norm by removing the presuposing opinion as well as targeted and random surveillance of the citizenry.” –Benito Musilinni

    Either extreme, in my book, is grossly undesireable. If I could clone Ron Reagan, I would… however our next best option is probably Rep. Dr. Ron Paul. Unfortunately it is highly doubtful anyone reading this post will be able to comprehend it’s imppact and act accordingly.

  14. Fruktata says:

    So, Roger, you would clone Ronald Reagan, and send more American missiles to the Iranian government?

  15. Anonymous says:

    Hey fruktata, How old are you? Ronald Reagon scarred Iran to death,I remember because back then I was a Democrat, all for Jimmy Carter because my Dad and Mom were for him, but because when he was President Iran took our Hostages for over a year from the Embassy and held them until Reagon became president they knew Jimmy Carter was w weakling and in my estimation looking back was the worst president we ever had next to Bill Clinton as you can tell I am no longer a chicken Democrat Reagon would send missles to Iran alright! He never had to fire shot because he had a military superiority something the Dems as far lefty KOOKOO’s do not believe in.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Can someone tell me preferfbly a Dem who understands kookoo thinking, How that giving more foodstamps and welfare helps the economy? Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi has proposed this from congress.

  17. Illinois says:

    The Democrats actually dismantled the welfare program. I was working in DHS when this happened under the Clinton administration starting in 1998. At that time the Bush war debt had been paid off and there was full employment. Anyone who wanted a job could get one.

  18. Fruktata says:

    Ronald Reagan scarred Iran to death? He scarred them?

    Ronald Reagan arranged with Iran to keep the hostages in captivity until after Election Day!

  19. Anonymous says:

    Listen to your idiotic conspiracy theory How can anyone take you folks serious? “Ronald Reagan arranged with Iran to keep the hostages in captivity until after Election Day!” You must be reading Jeff Rense.

    Illinois, The dems did no such thing! what is Nancy pelosi doing right now? You live in a fantasy world!I want an article stating they dismantled the welfare progarm? You have your facts wrong it was Newt Gingrich who got the ball rolling by submitting a Bill that if welfare Mothers did not get a Job they would get their Kids taken away this actually forced Bill clintons hand to do something about this drastic but critical measure. Get it Right.

  20. Anonymous says:

    I asked How does giving more food stamps and welfare help the Economy? This is what Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have proposed. Frankly it is pretty stupid!

  21. Fruktata says:

    So, then, Anonymous, you were in favor of Ronald Reagan secretly sending missiles to the Ayatollahs in Iran?

  22. Anonymous says:

    No, I am not in favour of dealing with terrorists peroid! Were you in Favour of Nancy Pelosi running off to Syria like she was the President of The United States? Look that’s the problem friend we are dealing with politicians, I happen to choose the Lessor of the Two Evils in the Conservative Republicans, The “Dems” do not hold to any of My values,the party has went bonkers for the Left! there is only one that has any morals of values to my Knowledge and he is conservative,(Zel Miller of Georgia.)

    Joe Leiberman is For the war on Terror as you should be but you cater to the George Sorros move on.org that has bought and paid for the Dems The same thing is Happening that happened in Viet Nam and it was your party that lost that war crying Like babies also I do think Ronald Reagan was a pretty good President and I what I said about him still stands, If you cannot prove that he told Iran to Hold the Hostages then you need to be quiet.

    Matt Lauer said of Peolsi

    LAUER: “Vice President Cheney called Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Syria “bad behavior,” a Washington Post editorial on Thursday called it “counter-productive and foolish,” and an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this morning goes a step further and suggests her trip may actually have been a felony, that it may have violated something called the Logan Act. Tim, is this the way the Democrats wanted to get off the mark in terms of foreign affairs?

    With his second question, Lauer asserted that “a lot of people think [Pelosi] messed up on this one,” and then asked “what’s the impact for the Democrats overall?” Lauer never mentioned the fact that five Republicans — Reps. Frank Wolf, Robert Aderholt, Joseph Pitts, David Hobson, and Darrell Issa — visited Syria this week.

    To wrap up the segment, Lauer suggested that Pelosi may be “seen as usurping presidential power in designing and implementing foreign policy,” disregarding Rep. David Hobson’s (R-OH) comments that the Pelosi-led delegation “reinforced the administration’s positions.”
    LAUER: Vice President Cheney called Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Syria “bad behavior,” a Washington Post editorial on Thursday called it “counter-productive and foolish,” and an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this morning goes a step further and suggests her trip may actually have been a felony, that it may have violated something called the Logan Act. Tim, is this the way the Democrats wanted to get off the mark in terms of foreign affairs?

    With his second question, Lauer asserted that “a lot of people think [Pelosi] messed up on this one,” and then asked “what’s the impact for the Democrats overall?” Lauer never mentioned the fact that five Republicans — Reps. Frank Wolf, Robert Aderholt, Joseph Pitts, David Hobson, and Darrell Issa — visited Syria this week.

    To wrap up the segment, Lauer suggested that Pelosi may be “seen as usurping presidential power in designing and implementing foreign policy,” disregarding Rep. David Hobson’s (R-OH) comments that the Pelosi-led delegation “reinforced the administration’s positions.”

  23. Anonymous says:

    Still you did not answer the question on your party wanting to
    give foodstamps and welfare(To Buy votes) How does that boost the
    economy? Answer: it does not! Free money from the government.Baloney, You people don’t have any answers your the Problem.

  24. Anonymous says:

    I think for myself, the Demacratic Party thinks for you.

  25. Fruktata says:

    Who is this Demacratic Party you speak of? Do they spell for us as well?

    You’re against dealing with terrorists peroid, and that’s well and good, but what about the non-peroid terrorists like Osama Bin Laden?

  26. Fruktata says:

    So, Anonymous you’re against the Reagan record, then. You also recognize that the anti-Communist campaign of Ronald Reagan often led to support of terrorism.

    Golly, but your Clinton-blasting has led you down into a blind corridor of blowback and relativism, hasn’t it?

  27. Iroquois says:

    Of course we have to talk to Syria, whether it’s Democrat Pelosi or the five Republicans who also went. What on earth does Anonymous think can be gained by not talking to Syria? That’s absurd. There were probably some secret diplomatic communications exchanged on the back channels too.

    It was probably a result of those trips that Syria participated in the Anapolis peace conference a few weeks ago. Syria may be quiet in the news, but it is a major player in the area. They are mostly Sunni, which we need better relations with, and they have been deeply involved in Lebanese politics for the last 30 years. While Lebanon is a wealthy country, Syria is dirt poor and culturally isolated. We have countries like Turkey and Jordan in the immediate region providing a moderate counterbalance to Islamic extremism; Syria needs to come into the new mainstream.

    Of course we need to talk to Syria.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Iroquois,You do’nt Get it! It was not Nancy Pelosi’s Job to go to Syria, she committed a felony by doing so!(The Logan act) Look it up?

    Still you libs do’nt answer the question about foodstamps and welfare it must be a big embarressment, you have been taken as slave to your evil democratic party.

    What should we do Fruktata? Join hands with Communists,I know that they are so close to your belief system nothing would make you happier. Government is the answer to all our problems Right? No wrong!

  29. Anonymous says:

    Iroquois wrote:
    “Syria is dirt poor and culturally isolated.”

    Translation: They are to small to do any Damage. Baloney! It is the little foxes that spoil the vines in the vineyard. Mice to great damage.

    Iroquois wrote:
    We have countries like Turkey and Jordan in the immediate region providing a moderate counterbalance to Islamic extremism; Syria needs to come into the new mainstream.”

    mlculwell: Really There is no such thing as a “moderate counterbalance.” What is meant by the Muslim about “Islam being a religion of Peace” is that when the whole world is forced to be Muslim then there will be peace, otherwise there is no real peace. Most muslims are like some Christians who do not read thier bibles so that they do not know the scriptures. The Jihadists understand the teachings of the Koran and put them into real prcatice the rest do not. You are looking for trouble by trying to ignore I do not want a president who Ignores these folks.

  30. Anonymous says:

    By Tim Marshall, Sky News foreign affairs editor

    If I insult you, am I responsible for your violence?

    It’s a question being debated in the Netherlands this week as Dutch embassies around the world beef up their security ahead of the release of a film on the internet which allegedly insults the Koran. It’s reported to show the Koran being torn up and otherwise desecrated.

    The extreme right wing politician Geert Wilders has made the ten minute film promoting his belief that the Koran inspires people ‘to do the worst things’. His views have inspired him to talk about a ‘Tsunami of Islamisation’ in Europe, for the Koran to be banned, and for Dutch Muslims to either give up their religion or leave the country.

    These remarks have gained his party nine seats in the 150 seat parliament and himself a 24 hour police guard.

    He needs it. The last Dutchman to make a film which angered some ended up with a knife in his chest attached to a note insulting Jews and Christians. Theo Van Gogh’s murderer, an Islamist, also attempted to behead his victim in the street.

    The violence of the Danish Cartoon protests of 2005 roared around the world and resulted in dozens of deaths.

  31. Fruktata says:

    Geez, Anonymous! Where are all these Communists?

    You seem to think that there are Communists hiding under every rock, just waiting to take over the country. Get with the times, will you? There are hardly any Communists left alive for anyone to join hands with!

    You might as well be trying to fight the Spanish Civil War all over again. Look at the calendar. Note the year.

    Another note – the people who killed because of those cartoons were anti-Communists.

  32. Anonymous says:

    What a great argument for communism fruktata, Mind if I call you commrade? Hey let’s just deny that your party is socialist, it take a village right? I do believe they have a foothold in our everyday life, I see it in your party with lberal intollerant Intolerant professors and students who are violent toward other veiwpoints which should not be the case ever.There is no conspiracy, it is the truth and you are in denial!

  33. Anonymous says:

    63% of those living in Holland were polled stating that Islam was incampatable with europe….

  34. Anonymous says:

    whoops:*Incompatable*

  35. Iroquois says:

    I don’t think you know what you’re talking about, Anonymous.

    How can you say Syria is “too small to do any Damage”? I repeat, it is a major player in the area. Both geographically and politically. No purpose is served by ignoring Syria. Indeed we must be actively engaged in trying to open lines of communication.

    Your question about the Logan act refers to a bill introduced by some Republican rep that was not passed, that at the time was called “a cheap political stunt that just won’t fly”. Those talking points were stupid last summer and they’re stupid now.

    I can’t imagine where you’re getting your information about Islam. Do you know any Moslems? Have you read the Koran? If you are so sure there is no moderate Islam, you need to stop reading partisan talking points that have no relationship with the real world and get out there and find out the truth. If you’re interesting in something besides what people who have made their fortunes in oil are telling you to believe, you might try googling the “Amman message”. It’s probably on Jordan’s King Adculloahs website.

  36. Fruktata says:

    Anonymous, why must you always post your comments of groups of three? Is it to supplement your tin foil hat’s ability to thwart the mind-reading rays of the Illuminati?

    Really, this idea of yours that there is an existing Communist plot to overthrow the United States, with sleeper cells all over the country just waiting to spring into action, is absurd. It belies the absurdity of the original point: Republicans’ belief that Hillary Clinton is a Communist.

    A Communist who served on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart?!? I don’t think so.

  37. Anonymous says:

    I did not say syria was too small to do any Damage onr of you did! I believe it is the Little foxes that spoil the Vine.They cannot be ignored.

    No they are not stupid and nothing gave nancy Pelosi the right to take authority into her own hands! Just because you say they are stupid I am supposed to accept such a thing? No way!

    I grew around Muslims, my first Job was with Muslims in a convienience store.

    Yes I know what the Koran says, But apparently you don’t! It is the Moderates that don’t read thier Koran, the Jihadists do however and that is the reason for their terrorism. You are living in a fairy tale world! Just Like Christians Here do not read their Bible I would say ruffly 90% do not read their Bible and it is the same with Muslims(The reason for your so called peacful Muslims) They misunderstand passages and take them out of context the reasons being that it is so difficult is that the Koran is in classical Arabic and must be recited and read in the original langauge during prayers which take place 5 times a day, most muslims are not Arab! Did you happen to catch that? You don’t know what you are talking about so you just need stop acting as if you do! The main problems are set forth as I have submitted them. They cannot be understood because most Muslims are not Arabic and the Koran is recited in a classical Langauge that not even modern Arabs can understand.

    The religion has not been Highjacked by a few or a tiny minority the Jihadists actually understand the teachings of Islam. The Peace Muslims speak of Only Comes when others are forced to be Muslims! Now I know most Libs don’t like the freedom of religion we have here where you are not forced to believe but you allow enough Muslims in and they will end up forcing their belief upon you. I study this by reading Books, you just Listen to Liberal talking Points and watch TV.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Iroquois wrote:
    “Really, this idea of yours that there is an existing Communist plot to overthrow the United States, with sleeper cells all over the country just waiting to spring into action, is absurd. It belies the absurdity of the original point: Republicans’ belief that Hillary Clinton is a Communist.”

    Hey Iroquois, Who coined the phrase: Vast right wing conspiracy? Your beloved Commrade Hillary! Their(Communist/socialist first order of Business is to infiltrate our learning institutions that hasbeen accomplished also our Government that has been accomplished through the Democrats and some Republicans they will infiltrate every aspect of our way of life you people seek to change what has worked in this country through freedom now you want to stop anyone who does not believe like you, I believe you would like to make it a crime.A conservative cannot even speak at our colleges without being physically attacked by you Guys! The worst attorney General in our history under Clinton; The evil Janet Reno Who killed innocent children and mothers Because she did not agree with their thinking(Neither did I but I don’t believe you should attack and kill someone because of differing belief) That is the same thing the Muslim Jihadists do.
    Evils of Reno and what we would have under a communist clintonian administaration.

    One of her(Reno’s) more evil acts was the case of Bobby Fijnje, a fourteen-year-old who spent over a year in solitary confinement to be acquitted on all charges. It was unforgivable. It always turns my stomach to hear her talk about children in any context. She’s a monster.

    Ruby Ridge is another Instance that turns my Stomach! Clinton administration Fault for having her!

    And then David Koresh where she Killed Innocents.

    Iroquois:
    A Communist who served on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart?!? I don’t think so.

    Infiltration of Captilism My friend, now she Bad mouths them as does almost all Democrats because of the Unions who have bought and paid for her and every other Democrat who wish to force them to become Union so that they can get a peice of their Pie. (Capitilism which they disdain)

  39. Iroquois says:

    I wrote no such thing. Do read what I wrote. Surely you don’t expect me to take you seriously.

    My head spins trying to figure out how we got from the evil Janet Reno attacking and killing innocent children and mothers to “communist clintonian administaration” who want to get “a peice of their Pie” through the “Infiltration of Captilism”. No proof is provided, no links.

    And is it really true that “Their(Communist/socialist first order of Business is to infiltrate our learning institutions that hasbeen accomplished also our Government that has been accomplished “? Oh, no! Not our learning institutions!! How will the children ever learn about spelling and punctuation?!!

  40. Anonymous says:

    The Evil Janet Reno is one of your precious Demoncrats! And I failed to write Fruktata’s name for the post instead I wrote yours! But of course all you are ever concerned about is punctuation and spelling. Yes Communists have infiltrated our Learning institutions.
    They Love to silence anyone who does not believe as they do by shouting them down at said institutions of learning.

  41. Fruktata says:

    Conservatives cannot speak at colleges without being physically attacked by Irregular Times readers?

    Whoah!

    You know, Anonymous, in all the long years that Jerry Falwell (conservative) ran, and spoke at, Liberty University, he was never ever ever ever physically attacked by an Irregular Times reader… or by anybody else.

    In fact, I don’t think that there’s any evidence of an Irregular Times reader physically attacking any conservative at any college.

    You know, you still haven’t explained to me how Hillary Clinton can be a Communist if she served on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart, even if there is this crazy idea that Communists are taking over America through the “infiltration of capitalism”. If she’s in capitalism, she’s by definition not a Communist.

  42. Jim says:

    Fruktata,

    Can you prove that Jerry Falwell was never ever ever ever physically attacked by an Irregular Times reader? Can you prove it?

    A-ha! I didn’t think so. And remember, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

  43. Anonymous says:

    Conservatives cannot speak at colleges without being physically attacked by Irregular Times readers?

    Whoah!

    Anonymous:
    You Know exactley what I am talking about when I am refering to “you” I am refering to your group of “Liberal wackos” that attack the Likes of David Horowitz,Ann Coulter Etc.By shouting them down and not allowing them to speak at their respective ingagements at Higher learning Institutions. Of Course you had to twist words as you folks always do! Find where I wrote :”Irregular Times readers? were attacking anyone” you dishonestly added that tripe!
    “The you” are Liberal Democrats, the Bought and paid for wing of your party in General.

    Fruktata:
    You know, Anonymous, in all the long years that Jerry Falwell (conservative) ran, and spoke at, Liberty University, he was never ever ever ever physically attacked by an Irregular Times reader… or by anybody else.

    In fact, I don’t think that there’s any evidence of an Irregular Times reader physically attacking any conservative at any college.

    Anonymous:I was speaking of secular institutions of higher Learning where Liberal/socilaist college professors are employed who infect their students with hatred toward any veiw other than their own and call it “higher learning”, I believe they have a right to their belief, they however do not afford me the same right to the point of shouting down other veiwpoints, Im was not speaking of “Irregular Times reader physically attacking any conservative at any college.” Again I was speaking of Liberal Democrats more than likely the majority of who reads these pages. I believe in honest debate, not the hatred and childishness seen in secular colleges/ Univerties that have been displayed in recent years.

    Fruktata:
    You know, you still haven’t explained to me how Hillary Clinton can be a Communist if she served on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart, even if there is this crazy idea that Communists are taking over America through the “infiltration of capitalism”. If she’s in capitalism, she’s by definition not a Communist.

    Anonymous: Come on man I do not believe you are that stupid! She would say and do anything to get what she wants for the moment, I am from Arkansas , There is nothing you can tell me about the clintons they are the most evil couple to ever enter public Office and we Knew already Bill would be caught with his pants down. One can be a socialist/communistand be anywhere and appear to be anything, you act like it is an impossibility, It is not! LOL that is the stupidist thing I believe I have ever heard: “If she’s in capitalism, she’s by definition not a Communist.” LOL! Why if a Nazi is wearing an American Uniform in world war 2 he’s an American,Right up to the point he decieves you past the checkpoint and kills you deader than a hammer…

  44. Jim says:

    That last little bit is classic conspiratorial thinking:

    1. If Hillary Clinton acts in a manner consistent with communism, then AHA! She’s a commie!
    2. If Hillary Clinton does NOT act in a manner consistent with communism, then you see, she’s just doing that to hide her communism! How diabolical and sneaky!

    No matter what piece of factual evidence provided, the conclusion will be that Hillary Clinton is communist. Air-tight! Also oxygen-deprived.

  45. Anonymous says:

    She is doing things and promoting communism a little at a time but people will not accept blatant out in the open communism/socialism they only accept that which is beneficial to them, she wants to take from the rich and give to the poor through class warfare(Pitting the rich against against the poor and vica -versa by telling the poor she will take away from captilists evil corporations(The keyword of all you democrats)When you do this you are only slitting your own throat nobody ever got a job from a poor person but poor persons get Jobs from the rich and if the Government redistribute that wealth, then we have problems, Communism/socialism at it’s finest. It takes a communist /socialist village. she wants to bring the failed socialism of europe to the United states and you know it.There is no evidence that can be given to you…..

  46. Anonymous says:

    For the government To take from a corporation that has made money legaly is not freedom but bondage and for Government to take because you feel they have made to much money is not freedom the real evil is this idea.Like I said you will slit your own throat and ruin this great Nation, even with all of it’s flaws, it is not perfect but it is sure a far site better than any other. with our great freedoms and to stick the Governments nasty hand in the pie is not right Government is not the answer!

  47. truly scrumptious says:

    Hillary Clinton is doing things and promoting communism a little at a time… like joining the Board of Supervisors of Wal-Mart?!?

    Oh, yeah, that’s moving slow and steady toward Communism all right!

  48. Anonymous says:

    Well just keep being lulled to sleep by her, But I see you have no
    arguments. I gave the anology of a Nazi soldier putting on the
    Uniform of the American soldier, any soldier or high ranking
    officer to acheive his objective, to the point he would fool other
    soldiers, and then killing them. Wearing the uniform and being
    found in the places of the American soldier does not make you a
    real American soldier. She will ruin this country! You don’t even care that she will take away our many freedoms, you don’t care because you are selfish and it benefits you.Liberals have good Ideas that do not work.

    “Hillary Clinton is doing things and promoting communism a little at a time… like joining the Board of Supervisors of Wal-Mart?!?

    Oh, yeah, that’s moving slow and steady toward Communism all right!”

    The above is not even an arguemnt, it is stupidity

  49. Iroquois says:

    A Communist? No way. Hillary is a Martian.

    Dead giveaway: no antennas. They have learned how to do that in order to gain your trust. They really want to eat your grandmother.

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