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	<title>Comments on: Hillary Responders Play Flag Games While Obama Focuses on Constitution</title>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s accurate for Jim to say the website &quot;&lt;strong&gt;is featuring&lt;/strong&gt; this sort of critique of Barack Obama on its web page&quot; either.  It&#039;s not on the front page above the fold. It&#039;s not even on the front page. You have to click one of the tabs to search for it--or better yet, do an advanced google search. And even then, you won&#039;t find it above that fold on that page. It&#039;s way under the article about Obama catching flack for not attending that black thingy event of Tavis Smiley&#039;s.  That&#039;s not a &quot;feature&quot;, it&#039;s an afterthought tucked away on the back pages.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a &quot;critique of Barack Obama&quot; either, it&#039;s more of a critique of the conservatives they quote in the article. Shheesh, can we have some accuracy or has EVERYONE been into the Koolaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s accurate for Jim to say the website &#8220;<strong>is featuring</strong> this sort of critique of Barack Obama on its web page&#8221; either.  It&#8217;s not on the front page above the fold. It&#8217;s not even on the front page. You have to click one of the tabs to search for it&#8211;or better yet, do an advanced google search. And even then, you won&#8217;t find it above that fold on that page. It&#8217;s way under the article about Obama catching flack for not attending that black thingy event of Tavis Smiley&#8217;s.  That&#8217;s not a &#8220;feature&#8221;, it&#8217;s an afterthought tucked away on the back pages.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a &#8220;critique of Barack Obama&#8221; either, it&#8217;s more of a critique of the conservatives they quote in the article. Shheesh, can we have some accuracy or has EVERYONE been into the Koolaid.</p>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see hillaryresponder.com advocating anything.  There&#039;s no blog, no comments, no opinion.  They just repost stuff that has been published elsewhere--letters to the editor, news pieces, videos. Oh, and you can give them your contact info if you want to volunteer.

So you&#039;re saying it&#039;s okay for the Associated Press, which is supposed to be an unbiased news source to write the piece in the first place.  But it&#039;s not okay for an apparent political website to reprint it without comment. And the reason for that is....?  Why aren&#039;t you blasting this Nedra Pckler person for writing it in the first place?

I saw Obama&#039;s &quot;Truth Squad&quot; mentioned here: 
http://www.observer.com/2008/clinton-campaign-gets-rapid-responders-respond-misleading-attacks

I&#039;d love to see their website. I suspect it&#039;s private, as I&#039;ve seen a request for this on the Obama blog.  I sure don&#039;t understand all that stuff Obama considers to be &quot;racist&quot; and I wish there was a website that would explain it instead of having to get it from leaked insider campaign documents. Like for instance why were they upset when Hilary made that remark about copying someone else&#039;s speech and said instead of &quot;change you could believe in&quot; it was &quot;change that you could xerox&quot;?  If you want to decide for yourself you can see both clips here:

http://hillaryresponders.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=category&amp;layout=blog&amp;id=13&amp;Itemid=45

I&#039;m starting to think Jim might be working for Hillary, wouldn&#039;t that be interesting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see hillaryresponder.com advocating anything.  There&#8217;s no blog, no comments, no opinion.  They just repost stuff that has been published elsewhere&#8211;letters to the editor, news pieces, videos. Oh, and you can give them your contact info if you want to volunteer.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s okay for the Associated Press, which is supposed to be an unbiased news source to write the piece in the first place.  But it&#8217;s not okay for an apparent political website to reprint it without comment. And the reason for that is&#8230;.?  Why aren&#8217;t you blasting this Nedra Pckler person for writing it in the first place?</p>
<p>I saw Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Truth Squad&#8221; mentioned here:<br />
<a href="http://www.observer.com/2008/clinton-campaign-gets-rapid-responders-respond-misleading-attacks" rel="nofollow">http://www.observer.com/2008/clinton-campaign-gets-rapid-responders-respond-misleading-attacks</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see their website. I suspect it&#8217;s private, as I&#8217;ve seen a request for this on the Obama blog.  I sure don&#8217;t understand all that stuff Obama considers to be &#8220;racist&#8221; and I wish there was a website that would explain it instead of having to get it from leaked insider campaign documents. Like for instance why were they upset when Hilary made that remark about copying someone else&#8217;s speech and said instead of &#8220;change you could believe in&#8221; it was &#8220;change that you could xerox&#8221;?  If you want to decide for yourself you can see both clips here:</p>
<p><a href="http://hillaryresponders.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=category&#038;layout=blog&#038;id=13&#038;Itemid=45" rel="nofollow">http://hillaryresponders.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=category&#038;layout=blog&#038;id=13&#038;Itemid=45</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think Jim might be working for Hillary, wouldn&#8217;t that be interesting?</p>
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		<title>By: Juniper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furthermore, it&#039;s superficial.  These people are asking us to choose a candidate based on superficial demonstrations of patriotic fervor, rather than the substance of the candidate&#039;s policies.  Rather ironic, given that Hillary Clinton claims to be the candidate of substance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furthermore, it&#8217;s superficial.  These people are asking us to choose a candidate based on superficial demonstrations of patriotic fervor, rather than the substance of the candidate&#8217;s policies.  Rather ironic, given that Hillary Clinton claims to be the candidate of substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to your #4: The Huffington Post is a piece of corporate dreck that I have no respect for and choose to ignore.

The rest are news organizations reporting the controversy.  I expect nothing from them.

Hillary Responder is a website advocating for Hillary Clinton and against Barack Obama because he didn&#039;t hold his hand in the Approved Position one day and because he doesn&#039;t wear the Approved Piece of Jewelry.  That&#039;s Republican thinking of which George W. Bush would be proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to your #4: The Huffington Post is a piece of corporate dreck that I have no respect for and choose to ignore.</p>
<p>The rest are news organizations reporting the controversy.  I expect nothing from them.</p>
<p>Hillary Responder is a website advocating for Hillary Clinton and against Barack Obama because he didn&#8217;t hold his hand in the Approved Position one day and because he doesn&#8217;t wear the Approved Piece of Jewelry.  That&#8217;s Republican thinking of which George W. Bush would be proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these anonymous people -- whoever they are -- think that having a president who holds his or her hand in the proper position and who wears the right lapel pin is more important than having a president who preserves, protects and defends the constitution of the United States, then I will oppose them, because they stand for a great deal of what is wrong with this country.

You don&#039;t seem to have the same problem with such people.  And that&#039;s your right, just as it&#039;s my right to call out the people who think that enforcing sheeplike conformity is really what matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these anonymous people &#8212; whoever they are &#8212; think that having a president who holds his or her hand in the proper position and who wears the right lapel pin is more important than having a president who preserves, protects and defends the constitution of the United States, then I will oppose them, because they stand for a great deal of what is wrong with this country.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t seem to have the same problem with such people.  And that&#8217;s your right, just as it&#8217;s my right to call out the people who think that enforcing sheeplike conformity is really what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E-mail from Hillary Responder:

&quot;What do you get as a RAPID RESPONDER:

Daily talking points about our candidate&#039;s positions. 
Daily talking points about how the opposition is misleading voters with false statements. 
The satisfaction that you ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE on the campaign.&quot;

From the website:

&quot;Join a blog: #
What is a Hillary Rapid Responder?:
#
Someone who speaks the truth to the media about our candidate&#039;s message and positions.&quot;

&quot;Key Message Points&quot;

&quot;Call voters&quot;

&quot;Travel to a State&quot;

&quot;Core Message Guidance&quot;

&quot;Letters to the Editor&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-mail from Hillary Responder:</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you get as a RAPID RESPONDER:</p>
<p>Daily talking points about our candidate&#8217;s positions.<br />
Daily talking points about how the opposition is misleading voters with false statements.<br />
The satisfaction that you ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE on the campaign.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the website:</p>
<p>&#8220;Join a blog: #<br />
What is a Hillary Rapid Responder?:<br />
#<br />
Someone who speaks the truth to the media about our candidate&#8217;s message and positions.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Key Message Points&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Call voters&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Travel to a State&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Core Message Guidance&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Letters to the Editor&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem awfully defensive, Iroquois.

Tell you what.

First, find me a link to this &quot;Obama Truth Squad.&quot;  The only thing I can find when I type that in to Google is a series of Republican hit pieces.

Second, show me the place in which the Obama people criticize Hillary Clinton for not holding her hand in a particular position when the national anthem&#039;s playing, or for not wearing a lapel pin.

Do all those things, and present it all to me in one place to look at.  Then look into and if appropriate critique that group.

Go to it.  I look forward to your progress report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem awfully defensive, Iroquois.</p>
<p>Tell you what.</p>
<p>First, find me a link to this &#8220;Obama Truth Squad.&#8221;  The only thing I can find when I type that in to Google is a series of Republican hit pieces.</p>
<p>Second, show me the place in which the Obama people criticize Hillary Clinton for not holding her hand in a particular position when the national anthem&#8217;s playing, or for not wearing a lapel pin.</p>
<p>Do all those things, and present it all to me in one place to look at.  Then look into and if appropriate critique that group.</p>
<p>Go to it.  I look forward to your progress report.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah?  You disagree with me?  Well, flag flag flag flag flag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah?  You disagree with me?  Well, flag flag flag flag flag!</p>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are going to print that much of the article, you should credit the author.  hillaryresponders.com did.

The title of the piece is &quot;Conservatives Say Obama Lacks Patriotism&quot; The author is NEDRA PICKLER.

You can read the entire piece here:
http://hillaryresponders.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=57:obama-may-face-grilling-on-patriotism&amp;catid=13:obama&amp;Itemid=45
or here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23315711
or here:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5564470.html
or here:
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics/story/284797.html
or here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080224/obama-attack-fodder/
or here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080224/ap_on_el_pr/obama_attack_fodder
or here:
http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2008/02/25/ap/politics/d8v0m9vg0.txt
or here:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080223/D8V053E00.html

The nerve.

Damn, but you&#039;re going to be busy writing articles about all these outfits and how they all &quot;play flag games&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to print that much of the article, you should credit the author.  hillaryresponders.com did.</p>
<p>The title of the piece is &#8220;Conservatives Say Obama Lacks Patriotism&#8221; The author is NEDRA PICKLER.</p>
<p>You can read the entire piece here:<br />
<a href="http://hillaryresponders.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=57:obama-may-face-grilling-on-patriotism&#038;catid=13:obama&#038;Itemid=45" rel="nofollow">http://hillaryresponders.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;view=article&#038;id=57:obama-may-face-grilling-on-patriotism&#038;catid=13:obama&#038;Itemid=45</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23315711" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23315711</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5564470.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5564470.html</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics/story/284797.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics/story/284797.html</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080224/obama-attack-fodder/" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080224/obama-attack-fodder/</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080224/ap_on_el_pr/obama_attack_fodder" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080224/ap_on_el_pr/obama_attack_fodder</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2008/02/25/ap/politics/d8v0m9vg0.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.maysville-online.com/articles/2008/02/25/ap/politics/d8v0m9vg0.txt</a><br />
or here:<br />
<a href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080223/D8V053E00.html" rel="nofollow">http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080223/D8V053E00.html</a></p>
<p>The nerve.</p>
<p>Damn, but you&#8217;re going to be busy writing articles about all these outfits and how they all &#8220;play flag games&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an extraordinary amount of spin, Jim, even for you. Maybe you didn&#039;t look at the site very closely or maybe you didn&#039;t have your coffee yet.

The piece you are all up in arms about was an Associated Press piece that has been out for several days:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j7h3tqXBVMkt-Ig_c0Dz025_-jJQD8V0M9VG0

This particular piece has been reprinted everywhere from Yahoo News to MSNBC to Huffington Post.  Yes, this Hillary Rapid Responders website has it too.  

If you look at the top of the hillaryresponders.com website, there are tabs for categories like Speeches, Letters to the Editor, McCain, and Obama on the far right (probably an intentional racist thing, that.).  If you look under the Obama tab, you will see the AP piece about four articles down, right under the one where Farrakhan gives speech endorsing Obama.

What I DON&#039;T see next to this piece is the thing Jim describes as &quot;actively encouraging people to spread these as â€œtalking pointsâ€ on blogs.&quot; The whole website is basically a bunch of videos and stuff written by other people collected in one place. 

And yes, Obama has a group like this too--the &quot;Truth Squad&quot;. I&#039;m sure Jim has already written them a challenging letter to produce their tax exempt status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an extraordinary amount of spin, Jim, even for you. Maybe you didn&#8217;t look at the site very closely or maybe you didn&#8217;t have your coffee yet.</p>
<p>The piece you are all up in arms about was an Associated Press piece that has been out for several days:<br />
<a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j7h3tqXBVMkt-Ig_c0Dz025_-jJQD8V0M9VG0" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j7h3tqXBVMkt-Ig_c0Dz025_-jJQD8V0M9VG0</a></p>
<p>This particular piece has been reprinted everywhere from Yahoo News to MSNBC to Huffington Post.  Yes, this Hillary Rapid Responders website has it too.  </p>
<p>If you look at the top of the hillaryresponders.com website, there are tabs for categories like Speeches, Letters to the Editor, McCain, and Obama on the far right (probably an intentional racist thing, that.).  If you look under the Obama tab, you will see the AP piece about four articles down, right under the one where Farrakhan gives speech endorsing Obama.</p>
<p>What I DON&#8217;T see next to this piece is the thing Jim describes as &#8220;actively encouraging people to spread these as â€œtalking pointsâ€ on blogs.&#8221; The whole website is basically a bunch of videos and stuff written by other people collected in one place. </p>
<p>And yes, Obama has a group like this too&#8211;the &#8220;Truth Squad&#8221;. I&#8217;m sure Jim has already written them a challenging letter to produce their tax exempt status.</p>
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