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		<title>By: alireza</title>
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		<description>thanks for your favor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your favor</p>
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		<title>By: eric burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric burton</dc:creator>
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		<description>heeeeey!!</description>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You Obamabots are more annoying than Jehovah&#039;s witnesses.  No I do NOT think Obama is the Second Coming. No I do NOT think you can determine the truth--or for that matter choose a president--by &quot;feelings&quot;.

&quot;These proclaimed truths,&quot; Emmanuel?

Maybe they are proclaimed truths and maybe not.  But they are not Obama&#039;s proclaimed truths.  Here is a video of someone else saying all that stuff before Obama said it.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y7OFLl3asg&amp;NR=1

And while I&#039;m am at it, here is an Obama messiah video, ending with the quotation, &quot;When people stop believing in God, they don&#039;t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.&quot; G.K. Chesterton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UhXaE_XL_8&amp;eurl=http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/22/where-will-obama-be-for-easter/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Obamabots are more annoying than Jehovah&#8217;s witnesses.  No I do NOT think Obama is the Second Coming. No I do NOT think you can determine the truth&#8211;or for that matter choose a president&#8211;by &#8220;feelings&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;These proclaimed truths,&#8221; Emmanuel?</p>
<p>Maybe they are proclaimed truths and maybe not.  But they are not Obama&#8217;s proclaimed truths.  Here is a video of someone else saying all that stuff before Obama said it.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y7OFLl3asg&#038;NR=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y7OFLl3asg&#038;NR=1</a></p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m am at it, here is an Obama messiah video, ending with the quotation, &#8220;When people stop believing in God, they don&#8217;t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.&#8221; G.K. Chesterton.</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2008/02/27/recording-of-barack-obama-speech-in-columbus-february-27-2008/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/5UhXaE_XL_8/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Emanuele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emanuele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iroquois,

I want to make a point about your indirect claims that Barack Obama is a liar. This claim I&#039;ve heard from most of those who do not wish to be wooed by the man who seems to be wooing so many. It is a belief that easily polarizes people into two catagories: those who believe and are inspired by the man&#039;s words, and those who refuse to believe that someone can be in the position Barack Obama is in and be as honestly idealistic as he claims. Those who believe that we are at the brink of a major shift in American government, where hard truths can be set forth and dealt with in a very outright and public manner, and those who refuse to believe we are at a moment in history that has the potential to change the deeply rooted smoke-and-mirror ways of this country. Those who believe Barack Obama is rising up out of the deceptive mud that is and has been American politics, and those who refuse to believe that he is anything but one more slithering con-artist clawing his way up to the top of the dirt mound.

This belief about Barack Obama&#039;s honesty and sincerity, one way or the other, determines how you analyze and digest him as well as those who speak about him. The lens upon which you view the events of this Presidential election is colored very differently depending on which side of the belief you stand on. And I am not one to claim to know a man I have only seen in pixels well enough to answer definitively which side of the fence is the correct side. No, I refuse to ask you or anyone to make what is obviously a subjective sense of reality into an objective one that we all should prescribe to. 

However, I will ask you to do one thing: listen to to words he is saying, statement by statement, sentence by sentence, and ask yourself, is this a truth that I myself believe? Is this something that I myself would say if I had reason to do so? Not do I think the MAN is true, but do I think the TRUTH he is claiming is actual? 

When I hear this man speak, and when I read his words, many of such sentences I can easily see have an intention of swaying a voter&#039;s mind one way or the other, in his favor. But there are so many more statements that make me stop and say, wow, that is how I FEEL. That is MY truth. It is the belief I have that I didn&#039;t even know I had. These issues that he talks about, not all of them but some of them, are very real and important, to me and many other Americans. But they are not in the forefront of our minds and our thoughts. It takes someone with a clear vision to bring those issues to the focus. And once the issues are there, I have witnessed Barack Obama talking real, down to earth truths about those issues that I never thought I&#039;d hear come out of a politicians mouth. Truths that I can plainly see, but maybe didn&#039;t realize were the root of the problem. Those sort of statements cannot be lies, because if they are then my view own reasoning and view is a lie. They are statements upon which, detached from the man who delivers them, stand on their own, to be judged on their own.

I want you to think and comment on not the man, but these statements. These proclaimed truths. If you do not agree with the validity of the statements, then I encourage you to share your reasoning and lay down what is a clearer vision. But please, make this about what is really at stake here. Make this about the truth of all aspects of this Nation. Make this about what truths are unsettling and what we can do to bring about the change needed to erase those truths that a great nation should not include, and in their place build up truths that are rooted in honesty, graciousness, passion, and those ideals that make America a truly unique and righteous land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iroquois,</p>
<p>I want to make a point about your indirect claims that Barack Obama is a liar. This claim I&#8217;ve heard from most of those who do not wish to be wooed by the man who seems to be wooing so many. It is a belief that easily polarizes people into two catagories: those who believe and are inspired by the man&#8217;s words, and those who refuse to believe that someone can be in the position Barack Obama is in and be as honestly idealistic as he claims. Those who believe that we are at the brink of a major shift in American government, where hard truths can be set forth and dealt with in a very outright and public manner, and those who refuse to believe we are at a moment in history that has the potential to change the deeply rooted smoke-and-mirror ways of this country. Those who believe Barack Obama is rising up out of the deceptive mud that is and has been American politics, and those who refuse to believe that he is anything but one more slithering con-artist clawing his way up to the top of the dirt mound.</p>
<p>This belief about Barack Obama&#8217;s honesty and sincerity, one way or the other, determines how you analyze and digest him as well as those who speak about him. The lens upon which you view the events of this Presidential election is colored very differently depending on which side of the belief you stand on. And I am not one to claim to know a man I have only seen in pixels well enough to answer definitively which side of the fence is the correct side. No, I refuse to ask you or anyone to make what is obviously a subjective sense of reality into an objective one that we all should prescribe to. </p>
<p>However, I will ask you to do one thing: listen to to words he is saying, statement by statement, sentence by sentence, and ask yourself, is this a truth that I myself believe? Is this something that I myself would say if I had reason to do so? Not do I think the MAN is true, but do I think the TRUTH he is claiming is actual? </p>
<p>When I hear this man speak, and when I read his words, many of such sentences I can easily see have an intention of swaying a voter&#8217;s mind one way or the other, in his favor. But there are so many more statements that make me stop and say, wow, that is how I FEEL. That is MY truth. It is the belief I have that I didn&#8217;t even know I had. These issues that he talks about, not all of them but some of them, are very real and important, to me and many other Americans. But they are not in the forefront of our minds and our thoughts. It takes someone with a clear vision to bring those issues to the focus. And once the issues are there, I have witnessed Barack Obama talking real, down to earth truths about those issues that I never thought I&#8217;d hear come out of a politicians mouth. Truths that I can plainly see, but maybe didn&#8217;t realize were the root of the problem. Those sort of statements cannot be lies, because if they are then my view own reasoning and view is a lie. They are statements upon which, detached from the man who delivers them, stand on their own, to be judged on their own.</p>
<p>I want you to think and comment on not the man, but these statements. These proclaimed truths. If you do not agree with the validity of the statements, then I encourage you to share your reasoning and lay down what is a clearer vision. But please, make this about what is really at stake here. Make this about the truth of all aspects of this Nation. Make this about what truths are unsettling and what we can do to bring about the change needed to erase those truths that a great nation should not include, and in their place build up truths that are rooted in honesty, graciousness, passion, and those ideals that make America a truly unique and righteous land.</p>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Horatio, do you hang out with white supremacists? 

Do you think when Ron Paul addresses the John Birch Society, it&#039;s just another speech? 

Your analogy with women is dumb.  Is being female, which you are born with, the same as being a bigot, which you choose?

It&#039;s like saying if you hang out with New Yorkers, then you must be a New Yorker too--but people live where they live. It&#039;s getting closer to say do you hang out with football fans.  If you find football tedious and mind-numbing, you will not hang out with football fans because you will have no affinity for the sport and will not enjoy this crowd.  Likewise do you hang out with Republicans? If you are not republican it would either get stressful and annoying and you would start avoiding that crowd, or you would start thinking like they do.

So Jim you don&#039;t have any rational answer, so you turn around and ask the question yourself. It&#039;s the oldest teacher trick there is, I&#039;m not falling for it. Are you going to say we should hold Obama to a different standard than we hold Ron Paul and the GOP because, because, oh, I&#039;ll think of the reason in a minute...right, if you don&#039;t, they&#039;ll call you racist and say you&#039;re picking on them.

Oh don&#039;t bother to tell me I&#039;m not being a good liberal here because I know I&#039;m not.  A good liberal would close their eyes and just let people remember these things in the quiet atmosphere of the voting booth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Horatio, do you hang out with white supremacists? </p>
<p>Do you think when Ron Paul addresses the John Birch Society, it&#8217;s just another speech? </p>
<p>Your analogy with women is dumb.  Is being female, which you are born with, the same as being a bigot, which you choose?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like saying if you hang out with New Yorkers, then you must be a New Yorker too&#8211;but people live where they live. It&#8217;s getting closer to say do you hang out with football fans.  If you find football tedious and mind-numbing, you will not hang out with football fans because you will have no affinity for the sport and will not enjoy this crowd.  Likewise do you hang out with Republicans? If you are not republican it would either get stressful and annoying and you would start avoiding that crowd, or you would start thinking like they do.</p>
<p>So Jim you don&#8217;t have any rational answer, so you turn around and ask the question yourself. It&#8217;s the oldest teacher trick there is, I&#8217;m not falling for it. Are you going to say we should hold Obama to a different standard than we hold Ron Paul and the GOP because, because, oh, I&#8217;ll think of the reason in a minute&#8230;right, if you don&#8217;t, they&#8217;ll call you racist and say you&#8217;re picking on them.</p>
<p>Oh don&#8217;t bother to tell me I&#8217;m not being a good liberal here because I know I&#8217;m not.  A good liberal would close their eyes and just let people remember these things in the quiet atmosphere of the voting booth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iroquois, to be frank your thinking has gone off the deep end regarding Obama here.  Just look at what you&#039;re writing and evaluate the standards you&#039;re employing as if someone else were writing it.  Before I respond at all to what you&#039;ve written, I want you see you evaluate it yourself -- because the best way for you to move on past the multiple flaws in reasoning here is for you to do the work of confronting them yourself.  Until I see you do that I&#039;m not going to expend the time to respond to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iroquois, to be frank your thinking has gone off the deep end regarding Obama here.  Just look at what you&#8217;re writing and evaluate the standards you&#8217;re employing as if someone else were writing it.  Before I respond at all to what you&#8217;ve written, I want you see you evaluate it yourself &#8212; because the best way for you to move on past the multiple flaws in reasoning here is for you to do the work of confronting them yourself.  Until I see you do that I&#8217;m not going to expend the time to respond to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, nice logic, Iroquois: &quot;Obamaâ€™s minister, Rev. Wright, who is also his longtime personal friend does endorse Farrakhan publicly.&quot;

Well, Obama&#039;s wife, Michelle, is a woman.  That must mean that Barack Obama is a woman too!

Scandal!  Why not vote for a woman who at least admits it?  You&#039;re so right!  I&#039;m going to go vote for Hillary Clinton right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, nice logic, Iroquois: &#8220;Obamaâ€™s minister, Rev. Wright, who is also his longtime personal friend does endorse Farrakhan publicly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Obama&#8217;s wife, Michelle, is a woman.  That must mean that Barack Obama is a woman too!</p>
<p>Scandal!  Why not vote for a woman who at least admits it?  You&#8217;re so right!  I&#8217;m going to go vote for Hillary Clinton right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Signs Of Depression</title>
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		<dc:creator>Signs Of Depression</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is he He is Barack Hussein Obama , born in 1961. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, he is one of the three Democrats who can be nominated for the 2008 U.S. presidential election. He is my favourite by far. If we want a chance to see the US becoming a great democracy again, keeping sound values while understanding other cultures without dictating their will, Obama is the one. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kairosgroup.co.za/0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Signs Of Depression&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is he He is Barack Hussein Obama , born in 1961. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, he is one of the three Democrats who can be nominated for the 2008 U.S. presidential election. He is my favourite by far. If we want a chance to see the US becoming a great democracy again, keeping sound values while understanding other cultures without dictating their will, Obama is the one. <a href="http://www.kairosgroup.co.za/0.html" rel="nofollow">Signs Of Depression</a></p>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking at the one photo that looks like either people have their hands in the air as a fascist salute or are raising their fists. On enlarging the photo, I see only the guy in front has his fist raised, the other people are actually holding cameras above the crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking at the one photo that looks like either people have their hands in the air as a fascist salute or are raising their fists. On enlarging the photo, I see only the guy in front has his fist raised, the other people are actually holding cameras above the crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Iroquois</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iroquois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Farrakhan thing has me going personally. 

After all the stuff you wrote about Ron Paul&#039;s connection with white supremacists and John Birch and your cynicism about his lukewarm denials, you guys haven&#039;t said a thing about the Farrakhan endorsement. Obama&#039;s minister, Rev. Wright, who is also his longtime personal friend does endorse Farrakhan publicly.

Obama has an open manner and it seems impossible that he could hide anything, yet after watching the tape segment he was accused of plagiarizing, he follows the other guys speech word for word, and somehow makes the words his own.  
But they are not his own.  He just has a gift for delivery.  

Ordinarily we watch people for clues about their truthfulness.  Richard Nixon used to perspire heavily under the camera lights, and act nervous.  Everyone knew he was lying because he LOOKED like he was lying.  Jim distrusted Edwards because his body language was at odds with his words. But Obama is so skillful with delivery, how do you know he is not a powderkeg of, of well, maybe  racial hatred ready to go off? He doesn&#039;t seem to take the Farrakhan thing very seriously at all, only saying he repudiated Farrakhan&#039;s racist statements, but cutting off the commentator when he started to read off which statements those might be.  Exactly what about Farrakhan, if anything does Obama repudiate?  We don&#039;t know.  He weaseled on that question, and why? 

So maybe I&#039;m also looking for an answer to Obama in your reading of his body language, or lack of it, as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Farrakhan thing has me going personally. </p>
<p>After all the stuff you wrote about Ron Paul&#8217;s connection with white supremacists and John Birch and your cynicism about his lukewarm denials, you guys haven&#8217;t said a thing about the Farrakhan endorsement. Obama&#8217;s minister, Rev. Wright, who is also his longtime personal friend does endorse Farrakhan publicly.</p>
<p>Obama has an open manner and it seems impossible that he could hide anything, yet after watching the tape segment he was accused of plagiarizing, he follows the other guys speech word for word, and somehow makes the words his own.<br />
But they are not his own.  He just has a gift for delivery.  </p>
<p>Ordinarily we watch people for clues about their truthfulness.  Richard Nixon used to perspire heavily under the camera lights, and act nervous.  Everyone knew he was lying because he LOOKED like he was lying.  Jim distrusted Edwards because his body language was at odds with his words. But Obama is so skillful with delivery, how do you know he is not a powderkeg of, of well, maybe  racial hatred ready to go off? He doesn&#8217;t seem to take the Farrakhan thing very seriously at all, only saying he repudiated Farrakhan&#8217;s racist statements, but cutting off the commentator when he started to read off which statements those might be.  Exactly what about Farrakhan, if anything does Obama repudiate?  We don&#8217;t know.  He weaseled on that question, and why? </p>
<p>So maybe I&#8217;m also looking for an answer to Obama in your reading of his body language, or lack of it, as well.</p>
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