Comments on: Loren Davis Ministries and the Obama Slurs

By: Nicole

Nicole — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:06:10 +0000

Oh, and by the way, the accusations I was refferring to are the four that are bulleted on this page. I have not been able to look further into others.

By: Nicole

Nicole — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:02:31 +0000

Well this is my first time reading the Irregular Times and I do not have the time at this moment to look into other stories. However, in reading this particular story, I feel I must respond.

While I cannot confirm anything about the Rick Warren accusation, I will tell you that the others are absurd. I am a Christian, and conservative. I do not know every word of the Bible and I don’t claim to be perfect. In fact, I’m far from it, but it is Jesus Christ who has saved me and forgiven me. On that note, I must say that you are taking these statements written/made by Loren Davis in the wrong context. Having a Christian background, I understand exactly what Loren is saying and it is the truth.

I am not condemming you, rather reccommending that you look things up before you reveal your “facts”, and even ideas. Have you read the Bible? Have you searched it to find where Loren’s information is coming from? I encourage you to do so and see what you find.

Please, please, please look me up and ask anything you want.

By: roy

roy — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:49:52 +0000

what a bunch of hooey

By: Meg

Meg — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:20:50 +0000

ARW, you say that Obama will raise taxes. He has promised to get rid of the Bush tax cuts that favored the wealthy, and to increase taxes only on those who make more than $250,000 a year.

Meanwhile, while claiming to cut taxes, Bush and the GOP have plunged us into debt the likes of which the US has never seen before, and which is on the verge of bankrupting our nation. Under Clinton, we finally achieved a balanced budget and quit deficit-financing our government. The minute Bush got into office, he rushed thorugh massive tax cuts for millionaires and he and the GOP spent eight years spending money like drunken sailors.

When you say you don’t like taxes, I have to ask, which services are you willing to give up? Those taxes pay, in part, for highly necessary services, including for you. Just because a few people take advantage of the system doesn’t mean we should make it impossible for the most desperate to get help. Meanwhile, with Welfare Reform passed under Clinton, there’s a five-year cap on welfare, so those kinds of abuses can no longer take place.

Are you aware that when John F. Kennedy cut taxes, the top rate was 91%? When Reagan cut taxes, the top rate was 70%. When the top rate was 91%, there was more income equality in the US than at any time before or since. With each cut in the top rate and with each new loophole for the wealthy, more of the tax burden falls on the shoulders of the middle class, yet we’re still running the government on empty, borrowing so much of what we spend that we pay billions in interest on that debt every month. That’s money that could have helped rebuild our infrastructure or (name your favorite program or need).

Taxes are the price one pays for civilization. Our tax system is so far out of whack today that there’s no excuse for the mess it’s in, yet the philosophy that one can keep cutting taxes on the highest earners, debt finance the government, and leave the interest and repayment to future generations is criminal irresponsibility. I’m voting for someone who has promised to undo some of the harm done by the GOP’s belief in the “magic hand of the free market,” which is not at all free, but consists primarily of socialism for the corporations and social Darwinism for the rest of us. Meg

By: jason

jason — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:00:22 +0000

I like Obama and I like McCain. I think they are both intelligent and honest men. Are either of them perfect?, certainly not. I wish people would just stick to facts and quit the smear tactics. I will vote for Obama because after having 8 years of a Republican administration, our country has gone down the tubes financially. Hopefully Mr. Obama will get the country on track if he is elected. If he doesn’t, then I guess we will see what the next four years will bring us.

By: Lin Go

Lin Go — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:34:35 +0000

One quick scroll down, is all I need to abandon this website. I give it a thumbs down, pooh. I’m not familar with this style of Christianity. Thank you God of Love, who brought Jesus to forgive us from our sins.
This site could cause ulcers.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:30:54 +0000

the link in #52 is causing softwear probs, can you remove it?

By: Pastor Oriri Odoyo

Pastor Oriri Odoyo — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 14:09:00 +0000

I am proud to consider myself an evangelical and theologically conservative Kenyan-american pastor in Cleveland Ohio for the past 20 years. I happen to come from the Luo ethnic community of Kenya. And for your information both Prime Minister Raila Odinga andSenator Barack Obama families are known to me. The Odinga family was associated with earliest church missionary work in Kenya and the family has been part of anglican church (church missionary society). The late Oginga Odinga, the father of Raila Odinga was educated at Maseno Mission and later became a missionary teacher at the same mission school where Raila Odinga was born, baptised and confirmed as a church member. Prime Minister Raila has never denounced his faith in Christ. Prime Minister Raila is a committed christian and for your information Anglican church in Kenya is very evangelical and conservative
The Senator Obama kenya family side is related to me. Every time I have spoken with Senator Obama, he has requested prayers and thank me and the church for the prayers. It is sad and evil to hear someone claiming that Obama is a moslemand have especially when this comes from a missionary couple claiming to have worked in Kenya and have kowledge of the Luo ethnic group. These lies about Raila and Obama simply confirm that satan is a live and using human beings like these missionaries . This likes leaves me wondering if these people were true missionaries at all! I look foward to other evangelicals and conservatives coming out to denounce Loren Davis and Celeste Davis lies.
This missionary couple is an embarassement to the people of faith and must be condemned. I wonder what whose work couple did in Kenya!. It is one thing not to support Senator Obama’s Presidential bid but when missionaries spread of lies of ones character then it is the duty of Christ loving people especially church leaders to come out and denounce such lies because such activities can jeopadize the good work christians missionaries. Missionaries are trusted and lies like this one is dangerous if not challenged. I trust leaders such Dr. Dobson and the rest will come out strong and reject these lies against Senator Obama. As one who is a minister and has had good knowledge of Obama both as a minister, a Luo and a pesonal relationship with Obama family both in USA and Kenya. I can confirm to you that Barack Obama is a christian. All you hear to the contrary are lies from messengers of satan.

Rev. Abel Oriri
Pastor, Heights Fellowship Church
Cleveland Ohio

By: AT

AT — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:06:52 +0000

It sounds just like her. I’m sure she’s found a few new open routers in her neighborhood to thwart your ban. She likely wouldn’t use her handle if she didn’t want to be blocked yet again.

By: Jim

Jim — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:41:44 +0000

Nope, actually, that's not her, at least not by IP. But yes, Iroquois appears to be supportive of John McCain. Anonymous is actually correct -- he called Odinga for five minutes in January of 2008 to place pressure upon him. I have no idea why this is controversial.