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Wednesday, April 30th, 2008

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A Reader’s Response to Loren Davis Insanity Against Obama

Filed under Barack Obama, Election 2008 by jclifford at 10:53 pm

Last week, we gave coverage to the unreported story of the malicious rumors against Barack Obama begun by faith healer Loren Davis.

The trouble in covering this story is that Loren Davis’s emails (there are now at least two different ones being sent around in circles of gullible Americans) are so rambling that it’s difficult to cover all of the distortions and outright lies told by Loren Davis.

Tonight, a reader named Franck Metellus left us with a copy of an email that he sent in response to a friend of his, named Ken, who forwarded the Loren Davis conspiracy theory email on to him. Franck’s email covers some of the bizarre territory that we have yet to explore in Loren Davis’s ideas about Obama.

The following is the text of the email written by Franck Metellus:

“A friend of mine sent me a copy of the Loren and Celest Davis attack on Obama. Here is my response to him.

Ken, Ken, Ken,

Where do you keep coming up with these bullshit emails? I hope you do not give something like this any credence. First of all, Just because you read something, does not mean that it is true. It does not mean that it is not true either. But before you take it as fact, it must be researched. Otherwise it is gossip and innuendo. Neither of which I give any credence to. If I make a decision it will be made based on RELIABLE FACTS AND DATA NOT HEARSAY, GOSSIP OR INUENDO. Do yourself a favor and do not pass on stuff like this because there is no substance to it. Check it out first. I would also encourage you to ask the person or persons who are sending you this junk to stop sending this junk out. It is not funny and it is not a joke. There are too many ignorant weak minded people who will jump on the band wagon just because they see something in print, when in reality there is no substance to it and is just meant to tear down a candidate who is running for office. Actually, I personally question the motives of people who send trash like this out. If they had any REAL issues with Obama based on his record or platform, then I am more than willing to listen to them, but this trash is just disgusting, divisive and does the Country no good.

Let’s analyze the BS email you sent me.

They know Obama’s family in Kenya and the family is responsible for the presidential election chaos in Kenya.

Just because they make the statement that they know the family does not make it true. Even if they did and what they say is true, what does that have to do with Barack Obama? This clearly is an attempt to smear Senator Obama with GUILT BY ASSOCIATION. I explained this to you last time that this is a LOGICAL FALLACY. When someone uses a logical fallacy the conclusion drawn is FALSE because they are using a faulty premise.

Let’s look at the facts from RELIABLE Sources. Below are quotes from CBS News and Wikipedia

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/08/politics/horserace/entry3687705.shtml

The Associated Press reports that Obama has spoken to Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga to “express grave concerns over the election’s outcome,” according to Odinga’s spokesperson, who added that the Democratic hopeful also plans to call Kenyan president Mwai Kibaki.

Obama, who has discussed the situation with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, has also recorded a message urging an end to the violence for broadcast on Voice of America radio.

Odinga and Kibaki are engaged in an electoral standoff that has sparked riots and inflamed tribal rivalries across a country seen as a strong U.S. ally and a rare example of a stable democracy in Africa. Violence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raila_Odinga

Raila Amolo Odinga (born January 7, 1945) is Kenyan politician, currently serving as the Prime Minister of Kenya under President Mwai Kibaki in a temporary coalition government. He has served as a Member of Parliament for Langata since 1992, was Minister of Energy from 2001 to 2002, and was Minister of Roads, Public Works and Housing from 2003 to 2005. He was the main opposition candidate in the disputed 2007 presidential election. Following a post-electoral crisis that resulted in the deaths of 1,500 people and the displacement of 600,000 more, Odinga took office as Prime Minister, at the head of a national unity government, in April 2008.

Odinga claims to be a cousin of American Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama through the latter’s father, Barack Obama Sr., who Odinga claims was his maternal uncle.[26] This claim has not been corroborated, but Obama Sr. did come from the same Luo tribe as Odinga.[26]

Now here is a direct quote from the BS email that you sent me, “As we watch Obama rise in the US we are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same tactic, crying rigged election if he doesn’t win and possibly cause a race war in America. ”

What makes the author of this shit SURE that Obama will loose, and if he does he will say that the election was rigged? Where are they getting their crystal ball??? I want one so I can put mine to more productive use and pick the winning lottery numbers for me. Secondarily their statement that he will possibly cause a race war in America is totally unfounded and just plain inflammatory. The statement is made just for effect with no logical basis or foundation. This again is designed to prey on the minds of the ignorant , the gullible, and the weak.

The author of the email also states, “What we would like you to know is that the American press has been keeping a dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist and this is a fulfillment of the 911 threat that was just the beginning. Jihad is the only true Muslim way.”

How stupid is this???? First of all if Obama was a Muslim, why was he baptized in a Christian Church??? Why does he attend Christian services???, Why was he married in a Christian Church??? Why were his children baptized and brought up as Christians??? Even if he was a Muslim…So What? There are many Muslims that are good Americans also. The author of the email attempts to paint all Muslims with a terrorist brush, which just is not correct. Here is his or her logic, The 911 terrorist were Muslims, They belong to the class of Muslims and they belong to the class of terrorist, Therefore all Muslims are terrorist.

Let’s play it a different way The KKK terrorist were White, They belong to the class of KKK terrorist and they belong to the class of White people. Therefore all White people are KKK terrorist. See, when I bring it closer to home you can clearly see the logical flaws in this persons thinking.

The second part of their statement is that Obama is a “racist”. Let’s see now, Obama ½ Black and ½ White. Which race is he against? Oh, I get it now, it must be Asians because he is not part Asian? What do you think? How ignorant a comment was that!”


2 Comments »

  1. I would like to commend Franck for taking the time to put these slanted human beings Loren and Celest Davis characters in their place.

    Their statement that “Obama will possibly cause a race war in America” is RIDICULOUS! Loren and Celest Davis are obviously hoping to push their hateful propaganda on folks that they (are hoping) are ignorant, uninformed, uneducated and/or fearful. I pesonally am truly ashamned and embarrassed by their remarks as they are JUST disgustingly inflammatory, UNTRUE and shameful!!!.

    I recently had a conversaton with a VERY close friend of mine whom I had a similar conversation with… regarding (his) statement “Obama is a “racist”. I said the same thing… “Obama is ½ Black and ½ White. Which race is he against? My response; “……Oh, I guess he is racist against his mother, grandmother and himself!” One step further…Why does Loren and Celest Davis or anyone else think they have the privledge over Obama or his mother to deny him of his whole genetic make up and/or heritage? (Ask white mothers who have biracial children how they feel about this dynamic!)

    In conclusion, As far as I am concerned, Loren and Celest Davis are VERY dangerous people. I would NOT want them living in my neighborhood, city or State for that matter! Thanks again Franck!

    Comment by A PhD — 5/3/2008 @ 3:41 am

  2. Great response, Franck! I wasn’t aware of Loren Davis Ministries until I got the same email you did and started googling to write my own rebuttal. Been checking out their site and found it very entertaining. These folks make Jeremiah Wright sound like Joel Osteen by comparison! Maybe we could copy all the email addresses of the true believers sending these things out, put them together, and then we’d have a dandy mailing list of potential customers for a tinfoil hat business? I’ll bet they’d all buy ‘em!

    P.S. Google Loren Davis american flag star and see what you get. Turns out Old Glory is a satanic symbol too, according to them.

    Comment by WillyR9 — 5/18/2008 @ 3:35 am

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