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	<title>Comments on: CafePress Loses Longtime Lead After Stiffing Customers and Designers</title>
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		<title>By: Roofing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roofing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeap!. .I heard gossips about price-hike made by CafePress as the print-on-demand sticker and shirt shipper, with the idea of cutting pay to designers started on the month of June.

It&#039;s great to hear also of other peoples opinions on the investments made by CafePress designers in bilding and maintaining a lead in design collections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeap!. .I heard gossips about price-hike made by CafePress as the print-on-demand sticker and shirt shipper, with the idea of cutting pay to designers started on the month of June.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great to hear also of other peoples opinions on the investments made by CafePress designers in bilding and maintaining a lead in design collections.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A blog post re: Cafe Press. 

http://www.vintagemural.com/blog/wordpress/?p=253</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blog post re: Cafe Press. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.vintagemural.com/blog/wordpress/?p=253" rel="nofollow">http://www.vintagemural.com/blog/wordpress/?p=253</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cafepress really screwed up with this decision.  I&#039;ve already opened a shop on Zazzle and am actively promoting it.  I&#039;ll leave my CP store open until the current agreement expires but if they don&#039;t change their minds I&#039;m not paying for the privilege of working for 10%.  Cafepress thinks they have the best game in town but I think we&#039;ve seen they&#039;re mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cafepress really screwed up with this decision.  I&#8217;ve already opened a shop on Zazzle and am actively promoting it.  I&#8217;ll leave my CP store open until the current agreement expires but if they don&#8217;t change their minds I&#8217;m not paying for the privilege of working for 10%.  Cafepress thinks they have the best game in town but I think we&#8217;ve seen they&#8217;re mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: A2ZGW</title>
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		<dc:creator>A2ZGW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an old disabled veteran who needed the income to keep a roof over my head. I searched quite some time before I chose CafePress (based on some of those who had stores there). I was getting a small check within a couple months, and up to $1000 a month before all that long. Now 90% down since the decisions to bolster their own income on the backs of those who make them ALL their money. As the first change came - the change on the volume bonus, we lost money (based on the weakest reasoning possible). Then the changes to the MarketPlace and Shops were announced. Who made those changes, no one will fess up to that level of stupidity, did so with no apparent reasoning, logic, or forethought (since that business model had been tried and abandoned already).

There is one single truism. It is not the paper that brings the value to a product - it is the art. The way they&#039;ve treated their artists is abominable - something I&#039;ve not seen done in my 40 years in graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an old disabled veteran who needed the income to keep a roof over my head. I searched quite some time before I chose CafePress (based on some of those who had stores there). I was getting a small check within a couple months, and up to $1000 a month before all that long. Now 90% down since the decisions to bolster their own income on the backs of those who make them ALL their money. As the first change came &#8211; the change on the volume bonus, we lost money (based on the weakest reasoning possible). Then the changes to the MarketPlace and Shops were announced. Who made those changes, no one will fess up to that level of stupidity, did so with no apparent reasoning, logic, or forethought (since that business model had been tried and abandoned already).</p>
<p>There is one single truism. It is not the paper that brings the value to a product &#8211; it is the art. The way they&#8217;ve treated their artists is abominable &#8211; something I&#8217;ve not seen done in my 40 years in graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: Calroofer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calroofer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Belong To Both,
And I Do Best At Zazzle....

CP Displays It&#039;s Greed In The Fact It Wants To Charge 
For Premium Shops...

I Find It Hard To Believe That Anybody Could Be Making 
$50.00 Dollars A Day Or More From Either Site...

I&#039;ve Often Wondered About The Truth Of The Sales In General...
Whats Stopping Any Of Them From Withholding Actual Sales Revenues
From Designers???
The Internet Is World Wide.. Thats Alot Of Sales...
$50.00 A Day, Why Not $200.00 If It&#039;s A Hot Design??
Point Is, You&#039;ll Never Know..
Only What They Want You To Know..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Belong To Both,<br />
And I Do Best At Zazzle&#8230;.</p>
<p>CP Displays It&#8217;s Greed In The Fact It Wants To Charge<br />
For Premium Shops&#8230;</p>
<p>I Find It Hard To Believe That Anybody Could Be Making<br />
$50.00 Dollars A Day Or More From Either Site&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve Often Wondered About The Truth Of The Sales In General&#8230;<br />
Whats Stopping Any Of Them From Withholding Actual Sales Revenues<br />
From Designers???<br />
The Internet Is World Wide.. Thats Alot Of Sales&#8230;<br />
$50.00 A Day, Why Not $200.00 If It&#8217;s A Hot Design??<br />
Point Is, You&#8217;ll Never Know..<br />
Only What They Want You To Know..</p>
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		<title>By: Motorcycle Tees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Motorcycle Tees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many others, CafePress&#039; move to lower shopkeepers income to benefit themselves caused me to look elsewhere for a place for my designs.  And like those others I&#039;ve wound up at Zazzle.  While the customization of the Zazzle shop websites is a bit more cumbersome to achieve branding, it still works. And I&#039;m making a lot more money with fewer sales than at CafePress.  So I&#039;ll be letting my CafePress shop slowly die while building my Zazzle shops.  When the CafePress shop no longer earns its keep by at least paying a profit over the monthly shop costs, then I will also be saying a permanent sayonara to CafePress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many others, CafePress&#8217; move to lower shopkeepers income to benefit themselves caused me to look elsewhere for a place for my designs.  And like those others I&#8217;ve wound up at Zazzle.  While the customization of the Zazzle shop websites is a bit more cumbersome to achieve branding, it still works. And I&#8217;m making a lot more money with fewer sales than at CafePress.  So I&#8217;ll be letting my CafePress shop slowly die while building my Zazzle shops.  When the CafePress shop no longer earns its keep by at least paying a profit over the monthly shop costs, then I will also be saying a permanent sayonara to CafePress.</p>
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		<title>By: Disco_Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disco_Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 01:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Obama can bail them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Obama can bail them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Michaels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting thread. As an artist (photography, printmaking) and employee of RedBubble.com, it&#039;s rare that I get this glimpse into the issues facing other POD sites, albeit sites that produce a different category line up of products.

I&#039;d like to echo that shopkeepers want choices and to be heard. This groundswell has been edging upward for some time, and Zazzle is the natural beneficiary of CafePress shopkeepers&#039; and affiliates&#039; discontent.

Thanks again for sharing the thoughts above. If you have any questions about RedBubble or its affiliate program, feel free to email me directly. jason (at) redbubble (dot) com. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redbubble.com/about&quot; title=&quot;The non-salesy details about RedBubble.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting thread. As an artist (photography, printmaking) and employee of RedBubble.com, it&#8217;s rare that I get this glimpse into the issues facing other POD sites, albeit sites that produce a different category line up of products.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to echo that shopkeepers want choices and to be heard. This groundswell has been edging upward for some time, and Zazzle is the natural beneficiary of CafePress shopkeepers&#8217; and affiliates&#8217; discontent.</p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing the thoughts above. If you have any questions about RedBubble or its affiliate program, feel free to email me directly. jason (at) redbubble (dot) com. <a href="http://www.redbubble.com/about" title="The non-salesy details about RedBubble." rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 03:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cafe Press has become a cautionary tale for businesses everywhere, online and off.  Don&#039;t forget where you business comes from, and don&#039;t ever EVER disrespect the people responsible for your success.  CP thought they could silence the dissent by censoring the forums, but this isn&#039;t Nazi Germany, and they can&#039;t force people to stay on their site.  When people are unhappy, they will leave, and despite CP&#039;s efforts to keep Zazzle a secret, the word has gotten out.  More and more CP designers are crossing over into Zazzle every day, and when they do, I&#039;ll be there with open arms to welcome them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cafe Press has become a cautionary tale for businesses everywhere, online and off.  Don&#8217;t forget where you business comes from, and don&#8217;t ever EVER disrespect the people responsible for your success.  CP thought they could silence the dissent by censoring the forums, but this isn&#8217;t Nazi Germany, and they can&#8217;t force people to stay on their site.  When people are unhappy, they will leave, and despite CP&#8217;s efforts to keep Zazzle a secret, the word has gotten out.  More and more CP designers are crossing over into Zazzle every day, and when they do, I&#8217;ll be there with open arms to welcome them.</p>
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		<title>By: Caza Creations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caza Creations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even before CP&#039;s questionable decision, Zazzle was making giant strides and gaining ground on them. It was only a matter of time before Zazzle grabbed a larger piece of the pie. 

Long before CP&#039;s changes, I was already spending more time at Zazzle, not because I was selling more there but because of the product designer which was way easier to use compared to CP. I figured, with time, Zazzle would make more improvements and sales would increase. The moral of the story is the tortoise ended up winning the race and I have closed my CP stores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even before CP&#8217;s questionable decision, Zazzle was making giant strides and gaining ground on them. It was only a matter of time before Zazzle grabbed a larger piece of the pie. </p>
<p>Long before CP&#8217;s changes, I was already spending more time at Zazzle, not because I was selling more there but because of the product designer which was way easier to use compared to CP. I figured, with time, Zazzle would make more improvements and sales would increase. The moral of the story is the tortoise ended up winning the race and I have closed my CP stores.</p>
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