Global Temperature Statistics: The Denial Edition

7 Responses to Global Temperature Statistics: The Denial Edition

1. ReMarker says:

   9/13/2009 at 2:27 pm

   Here is another interesting chart, link; http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc_fig1.html

   Here is the EPA article that links to the above, enlarged chart link, link; http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc.html#ref

   This is a link to a religious, Bible based view of climate change, named “God, Creation, and Climate Change”, I find much more appealing than Bible sourced comments that support ignoring the welfare of the earth and humans. It is well worth the read.

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2. Tom says:

   9/14/2009 at 5:49 am

   You don’t get it ReMarker, they WANT the world to end so their mythical savior will come down and take their bloated, egotistical, hate-filled bodies away to a new millenium of peace (which they’ll promptly fuck up, being who they are and all), joy and untold wealth i guess. Oh, and don’t forget about the 72 virgins . . .

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   • ReMarker says:

     9/14/2009 at 8:57 am

     I get it Tom. If my linking to the Lutheran article makes you think I don’t, I will explain. My purpose in linking to the Lutheran article was to show an alternate, “Christian based” interpretation of Biblical scriptures, as compaired to many interpretations many commenters here in Irregular Times make. And I do find the article much more appealing, BUT that is the limit to its influence on me. I continue to believe (God or not), any religious ideology that claims “deviness” for THEIR human generated documents is opening the religious wars can of worms.

     I know what the “end timers” are up to. I’ve heard all about it from the “inside” of the Christian fundamentalist side, being from the south and all. And although I don’t have 1st hand knowledge of Islamic fundamentalists, thier rhetoric is effectively identical to the Christian fundamentalists, and their actions mirror the Christian fundamentalists’, ie. McVeigh/bin Laden.

     I also know, to argue Scriptural meaning with Christian or Islamic fundamentalists is not very effective. They are “God driven” and not much can overcome their mind-set. The technique Fitzy used was one of the most effective ways to have an enlightening conversation about religious scriptural “intent” I’ve seen. Questioning scriptural “intent” and/or offering alternate versions of “intent” may be the only way to weaken the “end timer” philosophy. Some of main stream American Christianity is beginning to reject the radical interpretations of Biblical scriptures fundamentalist have, as the Lutheran article shows.

     Regardless of the cosmic TRUTH (God v. no God), effectively all the people on earth are spiritual. The question for those of us (spiritual or not) that understand that the “laws of nature” (science) rule, is; How to win the “reason and fact” argument with spiritualists?

     It’s not an easy task. Jim reminded me recently that making the case on the merits has great value.

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     • le pelerin says:

       9/14/2009 at 1:31 pm

       Because you’re from the South, you may think most christians are “end-timers”. I guess by that you mean they believe in a rapture.

       Most christians do not believe anything of the sort, only a small noisy minority here in the US. This belief is new within the last century or so and popularize by the “Left Behind series.”

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       • ReMarker says:

         9/14/2009 at 6:08 pm

         The “end timers” down here, are thicker than flies on a junk yard dog.
         I agree that “end timers” (fundamentalists) are mostly southern. I’z jus splainin’ why I was ’round ‘em and know ’bout ‘em. It was by chance not choice. I’z born and bread here in the south. Know what I mean, Vern?
3. Tom says:

   9/14/2009 at 6:02 am

   So i guess most people won’t hear about this either:

   http://tomdispatch.com/

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   • ReMarker says:

     9/14/2009 at 9:41 am

     Tom, I fear you have not read the Lutheran link I posted above, based on the info from your link. There are many similarities in the eco-damage being done in both our links. This is a repost of the above link for easy access. http://www.lutheranworld.org/What_We_Do/DTS/Programs/DTS-Climate_Change-web.pdf

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