American Family Association President Tim Wildmon is out there again, flogging the notion that Islam is an inherently violent religion. And to do so, he selectively quotes from the Quran:

President Obama this week once again called Islam “a great religion” which has been “distorted” by a small number of “extremists” to justify committing acts of violence against the West.

But the Qur’an (or Koran) itself, the holy book of Islam, contains over 100 verses calling for violence against Christians and Jews. To give just one example, Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.”

But, as with just about every claim that comes from Tim Wildmon and the AFA, the quote of Surah 9:5 isn’t exactly accurate. Surah 9:5 actually reads as follows:

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Still violent, but not quite the same, is it? And Tim Wildmon doesn’t tell you that other verses in the Quran directly contradict that one. Take Sura 6:

66. Say: “Not mine is the responsibility for arranging your affairs;
67. For every message is a limit of time, and soon shall ye know it.”
68. When thou seest men engaged in vain discourse about Our signs, turn away from them unless they turn to a different theme. If Satan ever makes thee forget, then after recollection, sit not thou in the company of those who do wrong.
69. On their account no responsibility falls on the righteous, but (their duty) is to remind them, that they may (learn to) fear Allah.
70. Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world.

And finally, Tim Wildmon fails to quote the violent portions of the Christian Bible, such as when God tells his loyal followers to kill everyone who engages in idolatry (Exodus 32), or when God has his toadies kill off entire peoples, right down to the littlest babies (start with Joshua 6, and move on to just about every other book of the Old Testament).

The truth is that if you selectively quote any ancient document of an Abrahamic religion, be it Jewish or Islamic or Christian, you’ll find that the major deity of the book telling his chosen people to go massacre other people, even the innocent ones, in horrific fashion. If that aspect of some parts of the Quran (but not others) makes Islam a terrorist religion, then that aspect of some parts of the Bible (but not others) makes Christianity a terrorist religion.

Tim Wildmon doesn’t mention these matters because they would cool the fires of your rage, a rage he finds highly useful. When you’re angry, you’re more likely to believe the other irrational things Wildmon has to say. Also, you’ll be more likely to reach for your wallet and make a donation to Wildmon’s Holy War.

Modern-day crusaders, bearing false witness: how exasperating.

As activists advocated the banning of a community center with a mosque inside it, more than 100 press releases on the subject were rolled out of congressional offices on Capitol Hill. Right-wing members of Congress tripped over each other in the effort to eke some electoral advantage out of being the anti-mosquiest.

The plan to build that community center in Manhattan is still moving forward, but the funniest thing has happened in Congress: not a single bill or resolution has been introduced by any member of the House or Senate to do anything about it. On the subject of the so-called “911 Mosque,” members of Congress are all talk and no action.

After a pastor in Florida threatened to burn a few copies of the Koran, members of the Obama administration whipped up the hysteria. One after another, White House officials appeared in front of microphones to predict that such an act would lead to violence, mayhem and massive death as offended Muslims struck back. For the sake of world peace, they beseeched the pastor, don’t burn that book!

After getting exactly the attention he sought, the pastor in Florida promised not to burn his Korans. But someone in New York City burned a Koran, and a church in Kansas burned Korans too. Did the Muslim world erupt in flames? No. There hasn’t been so much as a hiccup in response to these Koran burnings.

The press releases and protestations were all about maintaining image, not about accomplishing anything. Congress and the White House have played the American people for suckers.

Oh, there’s been a big international hue and cry about Florida Terry Jones declaring he would burn a Quran on September 11 before declaring he wouldn’t. Islamic and Christian and Buddhist leaders from around the world and government leaders from the President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense and White House Press Secretary all the way down to visiting FBI agents on Mission:Intimidate have all insisted that the act of burning a Koran would lead to massive riots, terrorist attacks and the downfall of the universe as we know it. We need to restrict freedom, they all explained, in order to protect freedom.

Let’s fact check that claim.

Yesterday, the Westboro Baptist Church burned a Quran at noon in Kansas. The world has not erupted in flames.

On New Year’s Day 2010, a burned Quran was found in a parking lot outside a mosque in Orange County, California. No riots ensued.

Back in 2008, the Westboro Baptist Church burned a Koran on the street in Washington, DC. No terrorist attacks followed.

In 2006, Flip Benham of Operation Rescue / Operation Save America burned a Quran in a ceremony in Mississippi. No summits were required to prevent another international war.

In 2005, students at Virginia Tech did get upset when a burned Koran was left at a campus mosque. But after a while it turned out that a Muslim student had left it for the mosque to dispose after it had gotten accidentally scorched. No one was killed or even injured over the incident.

Also in 2005, a burned Quran was found outside a mosque at Indiana University in Bloomington. Students got upset, but resolved the tension through dialogue.

History shows that burnings of the Quran are nothing new. The widespread outrage over the possible burning of a Koran is new. What’s changed is the decision by religious, political and media figures to use the possibility of a burned Quran as an excuse to fire people up and to take freedom down another notch.

Video Of Me Burning A Quran In Protest!

September 10th, 2010 | Posted by jclifford in Religion | Video - (1 Comments)

All the drama over whether Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida will burn a Quran can now stop. I’ve already done it!

Look here at my video of the Koran-burning protest I just did: Burning A Koran… and here’s a YouTube copy of it if you have trouble watching WMV files.

video of a koran burned in protest

Actually, I lied. the book that I threw on the fire was a copy of the Christian Holy Bible. How do you feel about the protest now?

To tell the truth, the book I lit on fire was a copy of a collection of very bad poetry assembled under the title Most Beloved Poems Of All Time. Given the way that Christians and Muslims have been behaving about the proposed Koran burning protest, I’m tempted to say that a collection of bad old poems is all that religion amounts to in the end.

Bad Eagle, September 2010 on how the burning of a Koran is part of a long, vibrant historical tradition of free expression:

Pastor Terry Jones, of the Dove World Outreach Center of Gainsville, Florida, is in keeping with an ancient tradition of book burning. His proposed burning of the Koran on September 11, 2010, is not, for all its outrage, especially original, or even significant…. It seems the US soldiers in Muslim countries like Afghanistan are not allowed to circulated Bibles to the people. Instead, such Bibles have been burned–by US military officers! All for the safety of the soldiers, of course.

Orthodox Jews have burned New Testament texts in Israel.

People burn things that are sacred to other people. They burn flags, buildings, books, and icons, images, and sometimes people even burn themselves. Muslims are very destructive of other people’s religion and national emblems, of course.

And so it happens. While Laura Ingraham gave a wonderful testimony this morning about the current political, religious, and social context of Pastor Terry Jones and the Koran burning idea, the historical context was absent completely, as it will be in most commentary about Pastor Jones. (Laura continual got the data wrong, too, saying Jone’s has a congregation of 50 people, when it a congregation of 50 families. But, that’s a detail.) Desecrating what others hold precious is one of the most common expressions of humanity. Indeed, the roots are ancient, and, we must acknowlege, Jewish.

Here, now, on the beginning of the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah, let’s be very clear: The Jewish people were originally commanded to be absolutely intolerant of other gods. That is Torah. Within their borders, they were to allow no exceptions, no compromises, and no foreign ways. The unique thing about the Jewish establishment was the fact that they created the Jewish nation on foriegn soil. The previous inhabitants were to be expelled, utterly. This is bold and brazen approach to civilization, but, it was all in the providence of God. It was, in fact, judgment against the depraved, denigrating conditions of the immoral heathen world.

Bad Eagle, August 2010 on how the building of a community center containing a mosque is impermissible, because free expression is overrated:

Religious freedom? NOT. The proposed Cordoba Mosque at Ground Zero in New York has nothing to do with religious freedom. It has nothing to do with tolerance, either. It is simply to honor Muslim murderers. For Americans to “tolerate” such a permanent gesture is truly a Freudian death wish.

Freedom of religion is not something this country was founded on at all. This is a grave error, and a most precarious, pernicious presumption. There is no justification of any mosque, or even cathedral, in the United States of America. And “justification” is a misapplied term altogether. Why?

“Religious freedom” is not a term found in the American Declaration of Independence, nor in the United States Constitution. “Religious freedom,” as a term, is a subsequent abstration, or a theory. It is a proposed principle, found in later commentary. It later developed into a political slogan.

To attempt to read the concept of “religious freedom” into the 1st Amendment is to commit scholarly error. To consider “religious freedom” as a principle, divorced from historical context, is to transcend history with personal application. It is abandon to the subjective, with a certain arrogance of soul.

The fathers of America wished to practice their Biblical beliefs the way they wanted to, without dictation from state authority. They wanted to practice Christianity the way they saw fit. That is the bedrock of America. The economic independence was an evolution of that “protestant” Christian faith.

The fathers had no mind for Islam, Hinduism, Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Voodooism, Satanism, Buddhism, Shintoism, or any other kind of religion in the world. America was not conceived as a haven for non-Christian, non-Protestant religion or culture. To think it was is profound error in interpretation. This is anti-historical, unscholarly, and wholly unjustified and unreasonable. Such a concept leaves America as some multi-cultural buffet, or an international bazaar. The haven idea makes American society worse than a melting pot. It turns American into a big brown bowel movement, ineviscerably impacted with infectious bacteria….

Bad taste, insensitive, inappropriate, yes, these are all reasons to disallow such a mosque…. Tolerance never included that idea of allowing murderous Muslims to build shrines to their murderous beliefs and practices.

Tolerance is insulting, deceptive, and suicidal as applied to the Ground Zero Mosque fiasco. The Islamic lust for death has already infected America, and it accentuates the liberal perversions of anti-Americanism. Too much discussion about “religious freedom” is wholly subjective and naive, bordering the inane.

“Religious freedom” is a curse to America. As articulated by the ignorant, and the politically biased, “religious freedom” is a lethal deception.

Freedom is for things that Bad Eagle likes. Bans are for things Bad Eagle doesn’t like.

It’s not just Bad Eagle. That’s what’s going on in the consideration of Islam in America more generally: we want to ban the things we don’t like. In recent national poll just released this week, the people who oppose the building of an Islamic community center in Manhattan also disproportionately report dislike for the religion of Islam.

It’s bigotry (look up the darned word). It’s mob rule. That’s America today.

Breaking news: Pastor Terry Jones of Florida has backed down from his plan to burn Korans on Saturday in the face of personal death threats from his fellow Americans and multiple applications of pressure from the military, the FBI and the White House. The military, FBI and White House applied that pressure because of threats from Islamic militants to kill people if Jones went ahead with his constitutionally-protected free speech.

Thank goodness, says the world, that crazy Terry Jones has been stopped.

Who’s crazy here? The idiot who wants to buy some books from Islamic publishers and then burn them? How about the people in the U.S. and around the world who threatened to kill Jones or other non-violent bystanders? How about the U.S. officials who just taught violent people in the U.S. and around the world that you can stifle free speech if you just threaten to kill someone? Maybe they’re all crazy, but there are layers of insanity, and I say the latter two categories fit right on top of the whole sour cake.

Might makes right after all. That’s what I learned today.

Pamela Geller, Executive Director of Stop Islamization of America, September 2010
Speaking about a church’s plan to burn multiple copies of the Quran:

The antidote to free speech is more free speech, not less. I certainly don’t believe in it, I don’t think it’s a good idea, but I believe in free speech, and so this is protected speech just like Bible burning is free speech. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if this was burning Bibles. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it was flag burning. It’s under the auspices of free speech, and all speech needs to be protected because then who decides? The Islamic supremacists?

Pamela Gellar, Stop Islamization of America Executive Director, June 2010
Speaking about the approval of permits to build an Islamic community center in Manhattan with a mosque inside it:

We are going to sue the US government to get a designation of war memorial status. I do not believe that the landmarks commission controlled by Mayor Bloomberg is going to stop this mosque. It’s not going to happen…. It ain’t going to happen with Bloomberg. We have to make it happen.

The Obama administration revealed late Tuesday that is prepared to unveil a new blah de blah initiative in the upcoming weeks despite the pressures of the oncoming congressional election season. “Blah de blah blah blah, blah blah de blah,” Defense Undersecretary Blahford Blahdepants explained in a press briefing. “Blah de blah blah, blah blah, blah blah.”

How many times have you read news articles taking that form? They could be written by monkeys, considering how little independent thought is required to generate them. Step 1: Capture quote at a news conference. Step 2: Figure out who said it using handy name plate technology. Step 3: Hang quotation marks around it. Step 4: Publish!

There are journalists who simply report what others say without comment. Some more thought is required by the journalists who attend the government’s various press briefings and ask questions. The spokesfolks who provide the daily supply of quotations for the newspapers have an interest in saying just what they want to say and no more. The first answer to a question in a daily press briefing is usually scripted. Assistant Secretary of State Philip J. Crowley began his press briefing yesterday by delivering a scripted remark on the planned burning of a Koran in Florida.

Question: Thank you, sir. P.J., as we approach 9/11 and also the Eid, and now we have a special session this evening here with the Secretary and also Special Representative for Muslims Ms. Pandith and you have heard the warnings from General Petraeus in Afghanistan, where – how do you characterize the relations between the United States and the Muslims around the globe and especially here in [inaudible] America and – because you see a lot of things are happening because – burning of the Qu’ran – Qu’ran and all those things are going to create so much problems, sir?

Assistant Secretary of State Philip J. Crowley: Well, first of all, people need to understand that in this country, we have freedom of religion, we have a tradition of religious tolerance, we also have freedom of expression. We believe that these are fundamental principles of U.S. society. We’re very conscious of what has been discussed as potential actions down in Florida at the end of this week. We think that these are provocative acts, they are disrespectful, they’re intolerant, they’re divisive, and we’re conscious that a number of voices have come out and rejected what this pastor and this community have proposed.

And we would like to see more Americans stand up and say that this is inconsistent with our American values. In fact, these actions themselves are un-American. The pastor says that he’s contemplating these actions to combat radicalism. In fact, these actions, if they take place – we hope they don’t – will actually feed radicalism. As General Petraeus mentioned over the weekend, given social media, they can have at least as powerful an impact as the tragic events and photos of Abu Ghraib had.

But at the same time, people around the world need to also understand that America is not represented by one pastor or 50 followers. We are a nation of 300 million people. And the vast majority of Americans are standing up this week and saying that these contemplative actions are inappropriate, they’re abhorrent, and this should not happen.

This was the third scripted Obama administration remark in one day, following remarks by White House Press Secretary David Gibbs and General David Petraeus in its doublespeak message: the Obama administration loves freedom in America but this exercise of freedom is unAmerican and should not go forward. The prepared statements of Gibbs and Petraeus to that effect went unchallenged by any follow-up questions; the journalists on the White House and Defense beats were apparently satisfied with monkey-level transcription.

Journalists at the P.J. Crowley press briefing reached for something more than monkey-level transcription. Through a long series of follow-up questions, they worked to get Crowley into a conversation beyond that scripted answer. I think it’s worth reposting that conversation here:

Question: Do you reject it? You said a great many people are rejecting it. Do you reject this? Do you just flatly feel that this particular group in Florida should not do this?

Crowley: They should not do this. And as General Petraeus said, they potentially put soldiers at risk. For any American who is traveling, any diplomat in posts around the world, these put – these actions, whatever their motivation, potentially put American interest and American lives at risk.

Question: And why is it un-American, which is a word that doesn’t get lobbed around very often in this briefing room? And you point out that there are two principles here; one is sort of freedom of religion and tolerance and another one is freedom of expression, which means that you can burn American flags and so on and not be called un-American. I mean, why is it un-American for them to do this?

Crowley: Well, there – it is one thing to have a right. It’s another thing as to how one exercises that right. This is a divisive potential act of disrespect of one of the world’s great religions. And while we support – and those of us are who are constitutionally charged to defend our freedoms, including freedom of expression, this is an action that has potential serious ramifications. It is a statement of intolerance that we believe is contrary to our – how we – how – our values and how we conduct ourselves day in and day out here in the United States of America.

Question: P.J., Arshad is right. I mean, what – honestly, what could be more American than expressing one’s freedom of speech, freedom to –

Crowley: There – we –

Question: — assemble and freedom to do –

Crowley: Absolutely right.

Question: I mean, why is it that –

Crowley: But there –

Question: You wouldn’t say burning the American flag is un-American, would you?

Crowley: Well, it is inconsistent with the values of religious tolerance and religious freedom that are innate to us as Americans. You’ve got a clash of two principles here. There are – in our view, there are far better ways to commemorate 9/11 and the religious bigotry that that event represents than to commit yet another act of what I would consider to be religious radicalism.

Question: Okay. But I guess –

Crowley: Go ahead, go ahead.

Question: — I guess the point – again, I’m having a hard time –

Crowley: Right.

Question: Excuse me. I’m having a hard time understanding, first of all, why the State Department is getting involved in an issue that relates directly to a Florida church.

Crowley: Well, first of all, I was asked.

Question: Well, okay. Fair enough. But you made the – but then you made the observation that what they planned to do is un-American. And I –

Crowley: I think – there’s – there are a balance –

Question: Are you prepared to say the same thing if someone wants to –

Crowley: Look, there are a balance of interests here. But this, in our view, has the potential to inflame public opinion around the world in a way that will jeopardize American lives and American interests. It does not represent our core values as Americans. We hope it does not happen. We hope that between now and Saturday, there’ll be a range of voices across America that make clear to this community that this is not the way for us to commemorate 9/11. In fact, it is consistent with the radicals and bigot – with those bigots who attacked us on 9/11.

Question: Right. But in fact, it is – but wait –

Crowley: Hold on – Matt. Matt, others want to ask questions, too.

Question: You’re saying that this may be incitement, but it is still a First Amendment issue. What really – what recourse does the government have to, say, go to the city of Gainesville and say maybe you should not issue a bonfire or whatever it is permit and all these things?

Crowley: Well, I mean, all we really have here is a bully pulpit. The community is going to do what they do. I mean, the city government has declined to provide a permit for this event. The pastor appears to be unswayed by comments by General Petraeus and others who have expressed concern about the action that is being contemplated. We want to see – we support a vigorous debate in this country, even about issues that have great sensitivity. That said, there is a point where the debate yields to something more significant.

We are hopeful, between now and Saturday, that a range of voices, whether they’re political figures, religious figures, others, can rise and convince this community that there are better ways of commemorating 9/11 than through this action.

Question: But, P.J., one more thing. The Secretary is going to speak out this evening. And second, freedom of expression or freedom of religion doesn’t mean that you put the whole country on fire.

Crowley: Well, and, Goyal, there is another side to this. That’s true. But if this community goes ahead and – with this proposed event on Saturday, we would hope that the rest of the world will judge us not by the actions of one pastor or 50 followers, but judge us by a tradition that goes back to our founding. We did not indict entire countries or an entire religion over the actions of 9/11, and we would hope that the rest of the world does not indict the United States for the actions of one fringe element in Florida.

Question: P.J., can I ask just one on this? Are you absolutely certain that you want to stick with the word “un-American” to describe this potential action, or do you want maybe walk back from that word?

Crowley: Let me define what I meant by this. We have a tremendous tradition of religious tolerance in this country. We believe that the potential act of burning a Qu’ran shows enormous disrespect to one of the world’s great religions. It is contrary to our values. It’s contrary to how civil society has emerged in this country. It is un-American in the sense that it does not represent the views of the vast majority of Americans who are respectful of religions – of the world’s great religions.

So while it may well be within someone’s rights to take this action, we believe and hope that cooler heads will prevail and other ways can be found to promote a dialogue among the world’s greatest religions, which is what we have been trying to do here within this country and within this Department since 9/11.

Question: P.J., I wanted to ask real quick – you touched on it earlier in your remarks that General Petraeus talked about the risk to members of the military abroad. Can you say whether you have similar concerns about whether this poses any threats to Americans tourists, for example?

Crowley: I think I encompassed that in my remarks. It does. To – we’ve already seen small-scale demonstrations in various countries overseas where anxiety levels are building because of the publicity surrounding this proposed action. It does put the lives of ordinary Americans at risk, as well as diplomats, as well as soldiers.

Question: P.J., you don’t believe that as far as – because many Americans don’t like, as far as building the mosque at Ground Zero, you think anything to do with that?

Crowley: Goyal, I don’t believe that the proposed events in Florida are related – excuse me – to the debate –

Question: Bless you.

Crowley: — in New York.

Question: P.J., both General Petraeus and yourself, and presumably – and, actually, all federal employees take an oath to uphold the Constitution, to defend the Constitution. And it seems to me that whether someone wants to burn a Qu’ran or a flag or an American flag or the Bible or the Torah or any other symbol of something that we think or that the general society thinks is a good or a great thing – like the flag is a symbol of the country which people routinely say is going to have the greatest example of representative democracy on earth, and yet, when people burn American flags in this country or around the world, we don’t hear this kind of thing saying that that’s un-American. In fact, that’s protected speech.

So I guess what my question is that it seems to me that while it may be against the values of the great majority of Americans for them to do it, you and people in this government, as sworn defenders of the Constitution, have the obligation to defend their right to do it, regardless of how abhorrent you find it.

Crowley: And, Matt, you’ve made a good scholarly and legal argument there, which I accept.

I wish I knew who “Matt” and “Goyal” and “Arshad” were, because I would like to send them flowers. They refused to take a government spokesman’s rote statement at face value yesterday and instead forced him into a conversation that moved him from one position (burning Qurans is unAmerican and inflammatory and Americans should not do it) to another (the U.S. government has a constitutional obligation to defend the free speech of Americans, even when a majority disagrees with the content of that speech).

Please, sirs, I want some more.