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		<title>Comment on Americans Elect Spokesperson Acknowledges Big Lie: Delegate Count inflated by at least 400% by John Lumea</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lumea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 01:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The obvious &lt;i&gt;caveat&lt;/i&gt;, of course, is that these calculations work, only if Wachtel is being truthful with both of the numbers she offers.

Either way: The verifiable estimate of the total number of support clicks in the system is ~50,000.

The further the delegate count moves away from 50,000 and toward 0, the more believable --- and, actually, better for Americans Elect --- it gets, as such a count suggests a smaller number of true believers who persevered to be verified and then went on to click support for one or more candidates.

As the delegate count approaches and surpasses 50,000, it would seem to get less believable, since --- especially if one assumes that some significant number of delegates did click for multiple candidates --- such a count suggests a higher and higher number of people who went to all the trouble of getting verified and then did nothing with their empowered status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The obvious <i>caveat</i>, of course, is that these calculations work, only if Wachtel is being truthful with both of the numbers she offers.</p>
<p>Either way: The verifiable estimate of the total number of support clicks in the system is ~50,000.</p>
<p>The further the delegate count moves away from 50,000 and toward 0, the more believable &#8212; and, actually, better for Americans Elect &#8212; it gets, as such a count suggests a smaller number of true believers who persevered to be verified and then went on to click support for one or more candidates.</p>
<p>As the delegate count approaches and surpasses 50,000, it would seem to get less believable, since &#8212; especially if one assumes that some significant number of delegates did click for multiple candidates &#8212; such a count suggests a higher and higher number of people who went to all the trouble of getting verified and then did nothing with their empowered status.</p>
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		<title>Comment on List of the 163 Democrats Who Spent Time Promoting Theocracy Instead Of Creating Jobs by Skeptic of Skeptics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptic of Skeptics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, now we find out that these horrid senators are all cringing before the might of a handful of zealot Evangelicals, and have insulted our ears and our eyes with Religious symbols and mottos rather than the Real Issues.  Horrible horrible horrible! Re-occupy Wall street! Death to the Rich People! We must not retreat from the Issue of Separation of Church and State. Gather the NOWs! Unite the NAGs! Communists and Atheists of the World, UNITE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, now we find out that these horrid senators are all cringing before the might of a handful of zealot Evangelicals, and have insulted our ears and our eyes with Religious symbols and mottos rather than the Real Issues.  Horrible horrible horrible! Re-occupy Wall street! Death to the Rich People! We must not retreat from the Issue of Separation of Church and State. Gather the NOWs! Unite the NAGs! Communists and Atheists of the World, UNITE!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Americans Elect Spokesperson Acknowledges Big Lie: Delegate Count inflated by at least 400% by Charles Manning (manning120)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Manning (manning120)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 23:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the message I got from AE on April 23, after being unable to get through their registration process and clicking on their support tag:
&quot;Hi Charles,
&quot;Thanks for your message. To help ensure the authenticity of the vote,
all identity verification must be done through the website.
All delegates are given three chances to verify their
identity.Unfortunately, people who fail the verification process three
times are no longer eligible to participate
in the primary. This is to ensure a secure and reliable process.
&quot;Best,
&quot;The AE Team&quot;
I have no idea how many others have experienced this, but I would think 300 is a gross understatement. I was given no assistance with the problem. This proves the entire program is fraudulent. I&#039;ve been a registered voter for about 50 years and no one has ever prevented me from voting in an election in any manner, let alone like this. Of course, I realize this wasn&#039;t an official election. But clearly the organizers of AE can&#039;t be trusted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the message I got from AE on April 23, after being unable to get through their registration process and clicking on their support tag:<br />
&#8220;Hi Charles,<br />
&#8220;Thanks for your message. To help ensure the authenticity of the vote,<br />
all identity verification must be done through the website.<br />
All delegates are given three chances to verify their<br />
identity.Unfortunately, people who fail the verification process three<br />
times are no longer eligible to participate<br />
in the primary. This is to ensure a secure and reliable process.<br />
&#8220;Best,<br />
&#8220;The AE Team&#8221;<br />
I have no idea how many others have experienced this, but I would think 300 is a gross understatement. I was given no assistance with the problem. This proves the entire program is fraudulent. I&#8217;ve been a registered voter for about 50 years and no one has ever prevented me from voting in an election in any manner, let alone like this. Of course, I realize this wasn&#8217;t an official election. But clearly the organizers of AE can&#8217;t be trusted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Americans Elect Spokesperson Acknowledges Big Lie: Delegate Count inflated by at least 400% by John Lumea</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lumea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 22:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can add to your list &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanselect.org/news/3-2012/press-release-ae-receives-peoples-choice-award-south-southwest&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;this 13 March press release&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; --- which, like the others, is over Ileana Wachtel&#039;s official signature. It says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;Americans Elect delegates, which now total more than 400,000 and counting,&lt;/b&gt; can draft and support a presidential candidate of their choice and nominate a presidential ticket that will appear on general election ballots nationwide this November.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add to your list <a href="http://www.americanselect.org/news/3-2012/press-release-ae-receives-peoples-choice-award-south-southwest" rel="nofollow"><b>this 13 March press release</b></a> &#8212; which, like the others, is over Ileana Wachtel&#8217;s official signature. It says:</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Americans Elect delegates, which now total more than 400,000 and counting,</b> can draft and support a presidential candidate of their choice and nominate a presidential ticket that will appear on general election ballots nationwide this November.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Draft Walker Fever Ran Cold: Independent Expenditure Committee Reports No Expenditures by John Lumea</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lumea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solomon --- neither you nor Nick Troiano nor anybody else at Draft Walker ever responded to my requests for information about that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.johnlumea.com/2012/05/about-that-draft-walker-poll-of966-florida-registered-voters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;9 April &quot;Draft Walker poll&quot; of 966 Florida registered voters.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Was that a proper scientific poll?

If so, I assume that somebody (or bodies) had to fund it --- or that, at the very least, some individual or firm donated professional polling services that can be represented by a dollar value.

Can, and would, you provide details about the financial and/or professional support for this poll? Who conducted it? Who paid for it? How much money did each financial contributor to the poll donate? Or, if none, what was the monetary value of any donated polling services?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solomon &#8212; neither you nor Nick Troiano nor anybody else at Draft Walker ever responded to my requests for information about that <a href="http://www.johnlumea.com/2012/05/about-that-draft-walker-poll-of966-florida-registered-voters.html" rel="nofollow"><b>9 April &#8220;Draft Walker poll&#8221; of 966 Florida registered voters.</b></a></p>
<p>Was that a proper scientific poll?</p>
<p>If so, I assume that somebody (or bodies) had to fund it &#8212; or that, at the very least, some individual or firm donated professional polling services that can be represented by a dollar value.</p>
<p>Can, and would, you provide details about the financial and/or professional support for this poll? Who conducted it? Who paid for it? How much money did each financial contributor to the poll donate? Or, if none, what was the monetary value of any donated polling services?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Replacing Olympia Snowe by Stephen Kent Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Kent Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 21:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Maine,_2012

Maine&#039;s People Resource Center polling has:
Angus King (I) 56%
Charlie Summers (R) 21.8%
Matt Dunlap (D) 12.2%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Maine,_2012" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Maine,_2012</a></p>
<p>Maine&#8217;s People Resource Center polling has:<br />
Angus King (I) 56%<br />
Charlie Summers (R) 21.8%<br />
Matt Dunlap (D) 12.2%</p>
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		<title>Comment on Draft Walker Fever Ran Cold: Independent Expenditure Committee Reports No Expenditures by Jim Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 20:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m not &quot;pretending I know what happened without any proof.&quot;  I&#039;m working off publicly available information.  Read through our &lt;a href=&quot;http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/tag/david-walker/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Walker series of articles&lt;/a&gt; and you&#039;ll find multiple points at which David Walker actively promoted a campaign to make him a presidential candidate, with links to the primary documents.

You, on the other hand, don&#039;t cite any documented sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m not &#8220;pretending I know what happened without any proof.&#8221;  I&#8217;m working off publicly available information.  Read through our <a href="http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/tag/david-walker/" rel="nofollow">David Walker series of articles</a> and you&#8217;ll find multiple points at which David Walker actively promoted a campaign to make him a presidential candidate, with links to the primary documents.</p>
<p>You, on the other hand, don&#8217;t cite any documented sources.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Americans Elect Spokesperson Acknowledges Big Lie: Delegate Count inflated by at least 400% by John Lumea</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lumea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the math I&#039;m suggesting here is correct, then Americans Elect has been inflating its delegate count by something closer to 1,333%.

Another little footnote re Americans Elect&#039;s pushing a slippery definition of &quot;delegate&quot;...

In his video chat with Judy Woodruff on 20 March, Josh Levine said (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/03/join-google-hangout-with-americans-elect.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;video&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; starting at 2:45):

&lt;blockquote&gt;What we ask people to do is join up as delegates --- when you come to our Web site, &lt;b&gt;we call users &quot;delegates&quot;&lt;/b&gt; --- when you come to the Web site, join up as a delegate; learn about yourself by finding out about your Priorities and the issues; and then find out what candidates match up to you....&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the math I&#8217;m suggesting here is correct, then Americans Elect has been inflating its delegate count by something closer to 1,333%.</p>
<p>Another little footnote re Americans Elect&#8217;s pushing a slippery definition of &#8220;delegate&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>In his video chat with Judy Woodruff on 20 March, Josh Levine said (<a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/03/join-google-hangout-with-americans-elect.html" rel="nofollow"><b>video</b></a> starting at 2:45):</p>
<blockquote><p>What we ask people to do is join up as delegates &#8212; when you come to our Web site, <b>we call users &#8220;delegates&#8221;</b> &#8212; when you come to the Web site, join up as a delegate; learn about yourself by finding out about your Priorities and the issues; and then find out what candidates match up to you&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Carbon Emissions From Fossil Fuels Reach New Record High by Earthling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earthling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested to know when this article is peer reviewed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know when this article is peer reviewed.<br />
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		<title>Comment on Americans Elect Spokesperson Acknowledges Big Lie: Delegate Count inflated by at least 400% by John Lumea</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lumea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The true number of delegates comes into even sharper focus, if you line up Wachtel&#039;s &quot;only 300 out of tens of thousands of people&quot; with another mathematical clue attributed to Wachtel and first &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/05/buddy_roemer_still_short_on_cl.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;reported&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on 9 May by Jonathan Tilove of the Times-Picayune:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...Wachtel said that &quot;less than 1 percent have tried and failed to register&quot;....&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If the total number of delegates was &quot;over 400,000,&quot; then &quot;less than 1 percent&quot; would be a number in the neighborhood of 4,000.

But this is nowhere close to 300. 

If --- as it seems reasonable to deduce --- &quot;only 300&quot; corresponds to &quot;less than 1 percent,&quot; then &lt;b&gt;the total number of delegates is just north of 30,000.&lt;/b&gt;

This tracks well with the fact that there is a total of only about 50,000 &quot;support clicks&quot; in the entire Americans Elect system and that delegates were permitted to click for as many candidates as they wished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The true number of delegates comes into even sharper focus, if you line up Wachtel&#8217;s &#8220;only 300 out of tens of thousands of people&#8221; with another mathematical clue attributed to Wachtel and first <a href="http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/05/buddy_roemer_still_short_on_cl.html" rel="nofollow"><b>reported</b></a> on 9 May by Jonathan Tilove of the Times-Picayune:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Wachtel said that &#8220;less than 1 percent have tried and failed to register&#8221;&#8230;.</p></blockquote>
<p>If the total number of delegates was &#8220;over 400,000,&#8221; then &#8220;less than 1 percent&#8221; would be a number in the neighborhood of 4,000.</p>
<p>But this is nowhere close to 300. </p>
<p>If &#8212; as it seems reasonable to deduce &#8212; &#8220;only 300&#8243; corresponds to &#8220;less than 1 percent,&#8221; then <b>the total number of delegates is just north of 30,000.</b></p>
<p>This tracks well with the fact that there is a total of only about 50,000 &#8220;support clicks&#8221; in the entire Americans Elect system and that delegates were permitted to click for as many candidates as they wished.</p>
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